[Junho]

Originally Posted by |Erasmus|

I dislike trusting $500 worth of cpu/gpu to a $80 case/psu combo...

What PSU and/or case should i get that you would like trusting? and should i cut down the sapphire graphics to a 1GB graphics card?

[|Erasmus|]

Originally Posted by Junho

What PSU and/or case should i get that you would like trusting? and should i cut down the sapphire graphics to a 1GB graphics card?

http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/PSU_Recommendations

Anything in the section for mid-range gaming card should be fine for this build. Antec Neo Eco is good value for ~$50. These are a lot better manufactured than the stuff you find in almost all case/psu combos (the only exception really being the few antec combo's that come with the neo eco model...)

[Junho]

Originally Posted by |Erasmus|

http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/PSU_Recommendations

Anything in the section for mid-range gaming card should be fine for this build. Antec Neo Eco is good value for ~$50. These are a lot better manufactured than the stuff you find in almost all case/psu combos (the only exception really being the few antec combo's that come with the neo eco model...)

So whats wrong with the COOLERMASTER ELITE 371 500W PSU? D:

[inFeZa]

I have a Thermaltake 750w one and never had a problem with it. 750 is too much for yours tho.

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Junho:

So a 500W would do me fine?

[AvMyuu]

i dont think the case isr eally important if you want to stick to a budget then just getl ike a 20$ case lol

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Junho:

Kevin, the case comes with a PSU

[|Erasmus|]

Originally Posted by Junho

So whats wrong with the COOLERMASTER ELITE 371 500W PSU? D:

I'm not exactly the biggest expert on exactly how the specs of every individual PSU affect the performance, but the wiki i linked to says the following: "Most of the PSU's Coolermaster brand are midrange budget/value models, whilst they will get the job done there are usually better options at the same price levels."


Most of the coolermaster models are actually manufactured by other companies, not necessarily ones with a reputation for making quality products. Even Coolermaster's own website doesn't make it immediately clear what model of PSU is coming with that case.

You are buying a product you know nothing about, not even who manufactures it. I don't normally like to do that. If you do, go ahead.

[Bloodmyst]

Currently I have been managing a HP/Dell network consisting of 700 workstations and 3 Servers. In 5 years I've never had a problem with a power supply.

I've only ever had problems with PSU's in custom made PC's.... It's always been because of the PSU not supplying enough power to the system. As long as it's big enough, you should be fine. I mean, are the power supplies that come with Dell, HP, Acer and Toshiba of good quality? I'd say probably not, but with so many enthusiasts among us they will probably tell you Coolermaster is crap.... yet it's still most likely better quality then what comes with pre-built systems.

But I think it was Erasmus who pointed out earlier, if you can find the known "better quality" PSU's at very similar prices... I guess it's up you if you want to be extra safe or not. But I don't think it's much of an issue.

[|Erasmus|]

Originally Posted by Bloodmyst

Currently I have been managing a HP/Dell network consisting of 700 workstations and 3 Servers. In 5 years I've never had a problem with a power supply.

I've only ever had problems with PSU's in custom made PC's.... It's always been because of the PSU not supplying enough power to the system. As long as it's big enough, you should be fine. I mean, are the power supplies that come with Dell, HP, Acer and Toshiba of good quality? I'd say probably not, but with so many enthusiasts among us they will probably tell you Coolermaster is crap.... yet it's still most likely better quality then what comes with pre-built systems.

But I think it was Erasmus who pointed out earlier, if you can find the known "better quality" PSU's at very similar prices... I guess it's up you if you want to be extra safe or not. But I don't think it's much of an issue.

A standard workstation without a dedicated video card? A 200W power supply would almost be over-specced for that, so I can see why the bulk 400W or so things they probably just whack in as standard don't have big problems. They also probably draw little current, so you don't have to worry about rails, etc.

I've personally only ever had one PSU die on me. But you hear things about PSUs that just melt down and destroy entire systems. So when it comes down to comparing say, $40 worth of an unknown unit from an unkown manufacturer from a reseller known for having -some- models that are not so good, or paying $60 for a highly recommended well-built unit and saving yourself the hassle of wondering exactly what you're getting, I think it's silly to have the PSU be the thing you skimp out on (if that $20 can't be trimmed elsewhere or mean you won't eat for a week or something silly).

That's really the point I'm trying to make here... You might get that case/psu combo and it works fine for 20 years, but you really have no idea what you're buying, and I don't like that kind of risk when I can help it.

[Bloodmyst]

Originally Posted by |Erasmus|

A standard workstation without a dedicated video card? A 200W power supply would almost be over-specced for that, so I can see why the bulk 400W or so things they probably just whack in as standard don't have big problems. They also probably draw little current, so you don't have to worry about rails, etc.

I've personally only ever had one PSU die on me. But you hear things about PSUs that just melt down and destroy entire systems. So when it comes down to comparing say, $40 worth of an unknown unit from an unkown manufacturer from a reseller known for having -some- models that are not so good, or paying $60 for a highly recommended well-built unit and saving yourself the hassle of wondering exactly what you're getting, I think it's silly to have the PSU be the thing you skimp out on (if that $20 can't be trimmed elsewhere or mean you won't eat for a week or something silly).

That's really the point I'm trying to make here... You might get that case/psu combo and it works fine for 20 years, but you really have no idea what you're buying, and I don't like that kind of risk when I can help it.

Just a question, I thought most known brands such as Coolermaster, Thermaltake, Corasir, Enermax etc. all source their parts from 3rd party vendors... whack it together and put their sticker on it. Is there a company that has a PSU that is well, "exclusively" theirs? Otherwise, how do you really know what your getting with any of them?

Or does Coolermaster literally purchase the whole unit from a 3rd party vendor and slap their sticker on it? LoLs if they do....

[Junho]

Chad suggested the Coolermaster 371/372W case, so you guys have a better solution?

[|Erasmus|]

Originally Posted by Bloodmyst

Just a question, I thought most known brands such as Coolermaster, Thermaltake, Corasir, Enermax etc. all source their parts from 3rd party vendors... whack it together and put their sticker on it. Is there a company that has a PSU that is well, "exclusively" theirs? Otherwise, how do you really know what your getting with any of them?

Or does Coolermaster literally purchase the whole unit from a 3rd party vendor and slap their sticker on it? LoLs if they do....

Go to the wiki link I posted... it lists who manufactures most of the common rebadged models of PSU... coolermaster use 4 or 5 different sources for their ones depending on what model you buy. Some are considered decent, some less so.

Seasonic is my favourite... they manufacture stuff themselves and it's widely considered some of the best units around (a lot of the (higher end) corsair PSUs are rebranded seasonic models). They are on the pricey side though, but are very efficient and quiet.

My suggestion:
Get an Antec Neo Eco 450W PSU and whatever cheap case floats your boat. A case is not going to fry components unless you find an unventilated box somewhere to stick it in.

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Bloodmyst:

Yeah, I had never heard of seasonic before you mentioned them on this website.

[Bloodmyst]

Originally Posted by Junho

Chad suggested the Coolermaster 371/372W case, so you guys have a better solution?

1. Well, Erasmus advice is to avoid Coolermaster
2. Myself, I couldn't care less as long as it's big enough and actually supplies more power then what I need just in case of future upgrades.

If I were in your shoes, go for the best of both worlds and see if you can find another brand that supplies plenty of power at a competitive price. However, if you cbf doing this then meh.....

I mean how often do you hear of people saying, dude I got a "Thermaltake PSU, woah man!" or "dude I've got a Corsair PSU, sweeeet?" What I hear of more often is "FFS, my whole comp has sh^t itself because of the PSU!"..... later on to only find out it simply wasn't big enough in the first place.

[|Erasmus|]

Originally Posted by Bloodmyst

1. Well, Erasmus advice is to avoid Coolermaster

My advice is to avoid a unit that you know nothing about other than '500W'. There are 500W badged PSUs that are great, and others that will probably blow up if you ask for that much out of them.

Coolermaster use a variety of manufacturer's, not all of them quality, and we can't tell which one this is.

If you can get a known quality unit without paying much more, my advice is to get that...

[Bloodmyst]

Originally Posted by |Erasmus|

Go to the wiki link I posted... it lists who manufactures most of the common rebadged models of PSU... coolermaster use 4 or 5 different sources for their ones depending on what model you buy. Some are considered decent, some less so.

Seasonic is my favourite... they manufacture stuff themselves and it's widely considered some of the best units around (a lot of the (higher end) corsair PSUs are rebranded seasonic models). They are on the pricey side though, but are very efficient and quiet.

My suggestion:
Get an Antec Neo Eco 450W PSU and whatever cheap case floats your boat. A case is not going to fry components unless you find an unventilated box somewhere to stick it in.

So that would mean those Seasonic models would be cheaper then Corsairs right?.... Hmmm, amazing how some businesses do dodgy stuff like this... well I think it's dodgy anyway lol.

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|Erasmus|:

The corsair branded ones are sometimes cheaper and usually come with +1 years warranty (I have one of those models ;))

[Junho]

On the website Sapphire Technology, they said the sapphire 7850 requires 500 watt power.

[|Erasmus|]

Originally Posted by Junho

On the website Sapphire Technology, they said the sapphire 7850 requires 500 watt power.

As I said, there's such a huge variance in 500W labeled power supplies... it can run in <400W but if they tell you that and buy a no-name PSU that is marked at 400W and it blows up you can possibly sue them then.

For reference the anandtech review for that GPU uses the folllowing setup:
CPU: Intel Core i7-3960X @ 4.3GHz
Motherboard: EVGA X79 SLI
Chipset Drivers: Intel 9.​2.​3.​1022
Power Supply: Antec True Power Quattro 1200
Hard Disk: Samsung 470 (256GB)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3-1867 4 x 4GB (8-10-9-26)

This is more power consuming than your 2500K...

The result:


A 7850 at load in that system draws a total of 289W. A high quality 450W power supply exceeds your needs

[IcedTea]

I think a 600w would be perfect. Its not extremely expensive and it provides enough power. The high end video cards require at least 500w nowdays to be running properly. I think that for a couple more dollars, you could get a 600w. Or if not a 600w at least a 550w. But in my opinion 600w would be ideal.

[Bloodmyst]

Well Junho, I have already ordered my new system and I'm using that exact same graphics card.

Despite what has been said about CoolerMaster, I ordered one. I ordered my system last Monday and still waiting for it to arrive....

But heres the PSU I have ordered;

CoolerMaster Silent Pro M2 850W Power Supply

- 850W PSU which is well above recommend specifications for the graphics card.
- 80+ Silver class certified, so it's a mid range PSU basically.
- A single 12V rail - Not going to go into detail about it, but this is good.
- 68 Amps on the 12V rail, this is REALLY good.
- Modular Cabling feature - good for general cooling of your system, also looks cleaner inside instead of having pointless cables lying around everywhere.
- Also important... 5 YEARS WARRANTY!

Fairly decent for $159.00 imo.

Personally, I'm not really fussed about what other people say about brand names in regards to PSU's. But I simply look at the specs and reviews. As long as I get the specs I need and the reviews are decent... I'm sold.

EDIT: Whatever PSU you end up buying, DOT NOT go and buy a 500W PSU, for the love of god! lol.

[|Erasmus|]

Originally Posted by Bloodmyst

EDIT: Whatever PSU you end up buying, DOT NOT go and buy a 500W PSU, for the love of god! lol.

Why not? his system won't be drawing over 400W...

[Junho]

Erasmus-450W IcedTea-600W Bloodmyst-850W
so how about going with IcedTea's idea 600W

CASE: ANTEC THREE HUNDRED - $58
PSU: Thermaltake TR-600PCAU TR2 600Watt. 80+ Bronze PSU - $65

PS: For Mayo, MORE % ESPORTS