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Unread Mon, 24th-Oct-2011, 9:01 PM Who's Who:   Race: Clan: iRL  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 1,494 # 1
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I'm on Twitter about 10 times a day (at least) so...
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Unread Mon, 24th-Oct-2011, 9:09 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: ToRErasmus.733  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 1,454 # 2
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I can see two things that come from the original point PiG made:
  • Need to advertgise tournaments to new people (beyond the current scope of sc2sea).
  • Need to keep people coming back to the tournaments.

Obviously we've had the numbers to fill these tournaments some weeks, but not others. I started by brainstorming ways we could try and fulfill no. 2. This has sort of been run with a bit.

I see no reason why, with a little tweaking, the current tournament system couldn't let users know about an upcoming tournament for their leagues (Might also want to make this an opt-in or opt-out system too...). Try to keep people with an account here coming back for the tournaments each week without them having to remember to come here and check the site.
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Unread Mon, 24th-Oct-2011, 9:57 PM BnetId: rezyn#258  BattleTag: rezyn8#6736  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 896 # 3
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I agree a new site is not needed and going over what PiG and nirVANA have recently posted I think the following needs to be done:

- Enhancement of the current Tournament Tracker and Calendar to cater for notifications via the site and twitter (automatically) - there is no need to do this manually.
- The upcoming events/calendar need to be more prominent - they really are lost on the right hand side and just looks like more forum topics as seen on the left.

crAzerk - there should be a way for news items to be post to twitter automatically - most cms' allow this; this in turn would have facebook automatically update with twitter posts as well; literally you update/publish to sc2sea and thats it, twitter/facebook then update automatically soon afterwards.

On a side note, I think a home page for sc2sea should be developed to make it more streamlined in displaying the important information the site has to offer - Tournaments, News, Profiles, Forums etc.
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Unread Mon, 24th-Oct-2011, 11:23 PM BnetId: Bjornbrandr.447  Clan: TA  Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 312 # 4
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I ran this briefly past PiG just to see whether it was worth posting it here so this should be half-decent.

Basically, I went back over what I remember about server side coding and I believe I have the basic idea for a system that would notify users of tournaments of interest to them. However, this does require vBulletin to be relatively flexible with what it can do and as I haven't used anything remotely close to it for years, I can't be sure it'd work in the current sc2sea framework.

Essentially, if someone was able to create a database that gathers data from user entry and stores it in arbitrary categories based on a tagging system (such as tagging a tournament BSG and Open, or BSG Clan and Open Clan) and then matches new tournaments with previous tournaments that users have entered and sends a notification to each user about the upcoming tournament.
For example:
-I enter a BSG this month (this is tagged and placed in the database)
-A BSG is created 2 months later
-The two BSGs share tagging (both are tagged as a BSG tournament) and I am sent a notification about the new BSG
The major issues would be concerning manually modifying which tags apply to yourself, so that a Masters player who used to be gold x number of months ago doesn't receive notifications for upcoming BSGs.

As to how the user would be notified, whether via pop-up the next time they log on or email, I'm not sure. Given the integration with the website, I can imagine a pop-up would be easier, but may irritate some viewers if it continues to pop up every time they open a new page or the home page after they have already viewed it. I'd assume that a "click this box if you have seen this pop-up" option should suffice here.

Again, I don't know how viable this is given the framework the website uses, but from memory vBulletin and should be able to handle such a database.
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Unread Sun, 30th-Oct-2011, 9:19 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: aLtnirvAnA.951  BattleTag: nirvAnA#1429  Race: Clan: aLt  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 4,857 # 5
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I ran this briefly past PiG just to see whether it was worth posting it here so this should be half-decent.

Basically, I went back over what I remember about server side coding and I believe I have the basic idea for a system that would notify users of tournaments of interest to them. However, this does require vBulletin to be relatively flexible with what it can do and as I haven't used anything remotely close to it for years, I can't be sure it'd work in the current sc2sea framework.

Essentially, if someone was able to create a database that gathers data from user entry and stores it in arbitrary categories based on a tagging system (such as tagging a tournament BSG and Open, or BSG Clan and Open Clan) and then matches new tournaments with previous tournaments that users have entered and sends a notification to each user about the upcoming tournament.
For example:
-I enter a BSG this month (this is tagged and placed in the database)
-A BSG is created 2 months later
-The two BSGs share tagging (both are tagged as a BSG tournament) and I am sent a notification about the new BSG
The major issues would be concerning manually modifying which tags apply to yourself, so that a Masters player who used to be gold x number of months ago doesn't receive notifications for upcoming BSGs.

As to how the user would be notified, whether via pop-up the next time they log on or email, I'm not sure. Given the integration with the website, I can imagine a pop-up would be easier, but may irritate some viewers if it continues to pop up every time they open a new page or the home page after they have already viewed it. I'd assume that a "click this box if you have seen this pop-up" option should suffice here.

Again, I don't know how viable this is given the framework the website uses, but from memory vBulletin and should be able to handle such a database.

Thanks for the feedback, I think an alternative way would be to have a subscriptions tab on the right. This would be relatively easy to implement.

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[ ] Signed up for CO+ notifications

And maybe on the morning of the tourney it PMs the user. I don't see the point though, I feel a countdown timer would be muchhhhhhh better.

This way users are never "spam reminded" and since most check sc2sea everyday its very unobtrusive and they can just check it out whenever they feel like it. i.e showing the countdown for next 3 days. Or perhaps just send a facebook page message on the day, although that will hit everyone including the non bsgs/gpds.

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Unread Tue, 25th-Oct-2011, 12:10 AM BnetId: rezyn#258  BattleTag: rezyn8#6736  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 896 # 6
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That 'should be' relatively easy to do by modifying the profile table of the users to include a section that asks them of which tournaments they want to be notified of. This then needs to be tied into the db table for the tournament calendar/upcoming events.
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Unread Tue, 25th-Oct-2011, 12:28 AM Who's Who:   Race: Clan: iRL  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 1,494 # 7
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@rezyn - Ah I see, that'll be great if it's possible. But still, Twitter can be used waaay more than it is now, and I hope to do so

By the way, everyone who has a great idea and is able to make it happen (i.e. have programming knowledge and willing to help) , please do send a PM to nirvAnA and get in contact with him, don't just post here I'm excited about what you guys have said!
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Unread Sun, 30th-Oct-2011, 4:25 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: rLsEscapisT.129  Race: Clan: aLt  Location: SG  Total Posts Made: 114 # 8
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