[Aean(:]

Originally Posted by KingLeonidas

I dun get it. I know smurfers r bad but shudnt they be given 3 chances? I dunno but thats what i think. Still for the case of deniable, after chatting wif him i really do feel its really him playing.

i c what u did ther. shifty boy

[nirvAnA]

yes im aware of the problems cruxis.

we already highly suspected boxer was using those accounts from the replay analysis
and the identical ip address which i made sure wasnt shared by any other users was just the final confirmation of evidence.

[inFeZa]

Originally Posted by Makra

Sounds like a pretty lame attempt at covering his tracks. Playing bronze league in Korea isn't going to improve your game any more than playing bronze league in SEA.

You'd be surprised, when i was doing my placements on KR i encountered some well refined cheese builds, very strong, but still thats all they do.

[cure]

Originally Posted by cruxis

Ummmm, I'm not sure a simple IP check should be that all that is required to prove someone guilty. 99% of users have Dynamic IPs, so several users can have the same IP at different times. This also makes IP banning impossible, as they can just turn their router on and off and get a new one. Unless you ban a whole group of them, but then you'll be preventing innocent potential members from joining.

Here's a screenshot I took from a forum I moderate on. I searched my own IP address (As I have no reason to have fake accounts when I'm a mod), and these users have also had that same IP at one time or another.



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We didn't ban him just because of IP alone.
Trust us, we do have our ways of finding out who are smurfs. We can't really release everything here or the future offenders would know how we catch them right ? (:

[cruxis]

Just making sure it wasn't the only method you used to ban people.

[Eryx]

Originally Posted by cruxis

So TLO, a Grandmaster, copied Deniable's 7 rax build?

Wow, I have lost so much respect for TLO at NASL now.

Did I say he invented it? Maybe I should have been more careful with my words so somebody wouldn't seek an opportunity to wave their engorged starcraft 2 dick in my face. Stay classy cruxis for you too

[BordZ]

Interesting to see the responses, yes a 0 chance policy is the best to use here, smurfing is so low and can only hinder the progress of the community. Keep all the ways to keep people banned silent too, I think a guilty before innocent thing can work here because with IT the way it is there are always loop holes to get around ban implementation methods.


I'm just glad that I didnt play this latest bsg then, knowing my luck I would have got the smurfer in the 1st round but not been able to work his smurfing out.

[ke_ivan]

imagine a GSL champion smurfing a SEA account for fun lol. Not that i approve. Gotta say though, sponsors would be glad that such strict action was taken. No one would sponsor a tournament that have smurfettes.

[Max]

Originally Posted by deL

Should make an SC2SEA hall of shame with known cheaters or douchebags so new clans forming can educate themselves instead of picking up a player that may ruin their team in the long run.

Pretty sure you wouldn't want that, because you'd be Rank 1.

[Delraich]

I agree with a tough stance on this. I think setting a high standard from the outset is very important and will send out the correct message.

[FvRsolis]

I'm happy with this result and I look forward to seeing everyone in the next BSG!

[tin]

people smurfing the BSG its cause its where all the cool kids hang out =D hope i can make it to the next few but

[jason]

Originally Posted by pikk0n

I hope... Fingers crossed in many many ways that deniable is NOT boxer... Because that would mean that I lost to him in the finals of my FIRST BSG and then later in the semis of my most recent BSG. :'( That's the saddest 2 BSGs of my life. HAHA! The 2 times I got past the second round I end up losing to Boxer? That's just embarrassing on my part.

how many BSGs do u plan on playing ?

until u finally win one and then u start laddering?

lol jokes

[pikk0n]

Originally Posted by jason

how many BSGs do u plan on playing ?

until u finally win one and then u start laddering?

lol jokes

I've been laddering. I'm just a more active 2v2 'ladderer'. Also, I go on these extremely long breaks from starcraft which sets me back a lot. You'd see me disappear for a month and coming back all rusty... I've only been in 5 BSGs despite participating in my first AGES ago.

[TAminimat]

bee tee uu I firstly said that this guy was a smurfer :> but why aren't all the smurfers we've caught in the OP? Have they not been banned?

[pikk0n]

Mini... I doubt they'd remember ALL the past smurfers but from the looks of it, TKShadow has been in quite a number of BSGs as well as the most recent BSG. Oh... he was also the first DQ in the most recent BSG... :S

[cruxis]

I think he's asking why Kringe hasn't been banned.

[pikk0n]

LOL, Cruxis! Kringe wasn't DQed mainly because he failed to send the replays. As for him being a smurfette, it isn't proven yet.

[ToRSpartaz]

Good old Kringe, he was raging in the clan chat for aaaaages about it xDDD Haha and whats with DeniAble? Because ive seen him play once or twice same level of skill each time =/

[pikk0n]

Spartaz. I think it's more him being Boxer who has won the tournament and is thus not allowed to participate in future BSGs. Also that he was using 4 accounts just to compete in the BSG. :S I'm not too sure about him smurfing because I sure as hell CAN beat him! Gimme 100 goes at him! RAWR! Oh well, you'd have to ask Baka about the full story.