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Unread Tue, 5th-Jun-2012, 1:25 PM Who's Who:   Race: Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,130 # 521
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I would also like if anyone has random ladde games against chobo provide replays. Suspicious or not, more information couldn't hurt.
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i did poke up the ramp, while i could win, i could also lose. My decision to pull back because i wanted to make an entertaining game, to show i can go from a all in, scv train back to my base and out macro to take the win.

I am not gonna replay to all the accusations because it would be just a waste of my time.

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Unread Tue, 5th-Jun-2012, 1:27 PM BnetId: AsGCHoBo.216  Race: Clan: TBA  Location: Perth, Australia  Total Posts Made: 190 # 523
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"Losing to nobodies at LANs"

The offline events which I attended I lost to

- Yang ( this was a while ago when I was inexperienced and I played really nervously, making many many mistakes )
- Sedz ( my team captain who I tried to double port banshee to meta him and his ling got lucky scout of my scv moving to build proxy port)
- High Masters zerg don't remember name ( got lucky with changeling blocking my mech army from defining my expansion )

Yes I do play very risky and my style has always been unorthodox since I have started. So it is not unusual for me to lose in tourneys because I play oh so risky. Even in the SC2SEACL I lost 0-2 to ToT protoss with 2 failed all-ins
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That spectator asgchobo in the twitch channel would have been my gf on my account. That would be a real stupid thing if I was gonna stream cheat because you could be anonymous.

Wow I knew the guys from cR were hatin' coz I didn't join their team because of commitments... but this is just wow... makes me feel disgusted...

I know tgun may not be my biggest fan but to come out and say make your own conclusions... this is well amazing, at least he knows that the 3 cc is pretty common build from me if I don't do some super cheesy build.

I did poke up the ramp, while I could win, I could also lose. My decision to pull back because I wanted to make an entertaining game, to show I can go from a all in, scv train back to my base and out macro to take the win.

I am not gonna replay to all the accusations because it would be just a waste of my time.
After doing a 4 rax scv pull and getting to your opponents ramp you decide, with no information other than there are two queens and 2 spines, that instead of trying to attack and win the game at that moment which is the point of your build, to pull back and show that you can macro?

That makes absolutely no sense and is the worst possible explanation for why you would make a decision like that.

Also, I would like to hear your explanation of the things I outlined in my post such as the random look into the main and natural at 5:30 on the shakuras game vs mafia and also the playing completely blind in TvZ then in the only games where your opponent went spire tech, you decide to scan the main (ohana and shakuras vs mafia).
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(Responding to iaguz post on the ohana vs enderr game)

Like I know your a terran and its an honorable thing to stick up for another terran but Im not wrong here.

7:03 ~ HE LOOKS at bunker BEFORE the queen even attacks it. you watch the replay again son

7:42 ~ yeah okay ill give him the benefit of the doubt here, hes just checking to see what he "already knows"

11:28 ~ its the fact that everytime he touches his hellions or vikings or whatever units its for a reason either to take the watch tower or exactly kill something that's there. HE IS NEVER running them around doing nothing because why would you when there is nothing?

14:40 ~ good starsense to leave units back for counter attack when there is a blob of pink shit at his 4th, doesnt need to do it later in the game when he pushes out though cause there's nothing on the map. Im sure if u analysed more replays here you would find the same consistency in other replays.

16:00 ~ Are you trying to justify a terran not scanning or scouting an entire game basically at this level we're at, but in the exact same map vs me when i make a spire at like 9:00 he scan's right away to see it so he can make turrets. How many terrans out there can play this well without needing to scan, because its evident in all his games he never does it, unless he has to in order to not look sus for putting down his anti tech buildings.

16:54~ THERE WOULD BE NOTHING WEIRD if there happened to be no more than 40 zerglings AT THAT exact location when he selects it.

17:18~ He moves it again because he knows theres a PINK DOT THERE. No other reason to change ur medivac pathing and spam it exactly where the PINK DOT ISNT THERE.

19:38~ Yes he's already won the game and can't lose from here because he has good hacks.
Im just saying that he even knows where to send his ******* army to the point of the map right infront of his opponents shit on the minimap. Thats what you would do if you SEE the minimap. Right? You could easily just A MOVE to your opponents hatchery or ramps or whatever but he managed to EXACTLY PINPOINT just under his opponents shit

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I did poke up the ramp, while I could win, I could also lose. My decision to pull back because I wanted to make an entertaining game, to show I can go from a all in, scv train back to my base and out macro to take the win.
To show an entertaining series and prove you can do allins and macro games, you do an allin in one game, and then the NEXT game you play macro. you do NOT allin, and then halfway through stop and go back to macro for the sole reason of playing "for the audience" not in a tournament against a player that good.

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I am not gonna replay to all the accusations because it would be just a waste of my time.
it is most certainly NOT a waste of your time, you have been accused of being a hacker in our community. Defend yourself. If you are innocent you have nothing to lose

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Unread Tue, 5th-Jun-2012, 1:34 PM BnetId: AsGCHoBo.216  Race: Clan: TBA  Location: Perth, Australia  Total Posts Made: 190 # 527
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here you go iaguz

http://drop.sc/150202
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Not replays from you. Replays from people who are definitely not you.

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is this so he doesn't just cherry pick ones where he's not hacking? :S
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Rossi is not in cR
neither am I or TargA
I don't see how any of this has to do with cR? are you an idiot?
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Unread Tue, 5th-Jun-2012, 1:40 PM BnetId: AsGCHoBo.216  Race: Clan: TBA  Location: Perth, Australia  Total Posts Made: 190 # 530
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they were posting hateful things on SEA chat the same night.

im not an idiot

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That spectator asgchobo in the twitch channel would have been my gf on my account. That would be a real stupid thing if I was gonna stream cheat because you could be anonymous.

Wow I knew the guys from cR were hatin' coz I didn't join their team because of commitments... but this is just wow... makes me feel disgusted...

I know tgun may not be my biggest fan but to come out and say make your own conclusions... this is well amazing, at least he knows that the 3 cc is pretty common build from me if I don't do some super cheesy build.

I did poke up the ramp, while I could win, I could also lose. My decision to pull back because I wanted to make an entertaining game, to show I can go from a all in, scv train back to my base and out macro to take the win.

I am not gonna replay to all the accusations because it would be just a waste of my time.
I usually wait to decide whether people are hacking or not until after they have posted their side of the story. This was worse than meanys response.. Definitely no question about it now.

EDIT: he thinks this is all an elaborate scheme by carnage to get him back for not joining their team? Gg wp carnage?
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they were posting hateful things on SEA chat the same night.

im not an idiot
If you go to archive in the chatbox, you can search for the names of the guys who were doing it. Please copy and paste their chat in here if this is the case.

I don't know the names so I can't check for myself.
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Unread Tue, 5th-Jun-2012, 1:50 PM BnetId: BIGGUN.962  Race: Location: Gold Coast  Total Posts Made: 138 # 533
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they were posting hateful things on SEA chat the same night.

im not an idiot
Please respond to some actual analysis with your side of the story, not just random complaints about things that were said in chats.

You said that "it's not worth your time to respond to this thread". It IS worth your time, because you should feel a need to prove that you are innocent. We are accusing you of hacking, and your response is "it's not worth replying" ? Yet you then go on about trivial chat comments and an accusation that Carnage have some kind of secret Vendetta against you.

Please ignore the sc2sea chat comments and start responding to your side of the story about our analysis if you really are serious about proving you are innocent.

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I would also like if anyone has random ladde games against chobo provide replays. Suspicious or not, more information couldn't hurt.
I have some from around January/February that I could provide when I get home, if this isn't resolved by then.
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dude, chobo mate.

if ur not an idiot, then defend yourself - we have all these replays of you with all these sus bullshit you did in game.

stop trying to make it out like we have a personal vendetta against you ffs

its funny how you dont ever once comment on the games at all except you go straight for the personal reasons
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Unread Tue, 5th-Jun-2012, 1:53 PM BnetId: AsGCHoBo.216  Race: Clan: TBA  Location: Perth, Australia  Total Posts Made: 190 # 536
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I usually wait to decide whether people are hacking or not until after they have posted their side of the story. This was worse than meanys response.. Definitely no question about it now.

EDIT: he thinks this is all an elaborate scheme by carnage to get him back for not joining their team? Gg wp carnage?
Dude I appreciate the fact that people make the decision after they here both sides of stories. But this could go on forever. I know I am innocent, my girlfriend knows I am innocent... This is all I need to really be at peace with myself. The fact a few others are neutral and cant come to a conclusion and I know I have support others is enough for me to say its inconclusive.

I really do not have the time to sit here and argue every single situation and position. Sorry. I am sure admins including nirvana and others will watch replays and post their views because this is a massive accusation and give their conclusions.

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I once suspected that AsGChobo might be smurfed by a Korean pro or something but I thought it might be because I was frustrated after losing to him multiple times and I had no proof (except he couldn't speak English at the time I was getting owned).. but never suspected this..(I havn't watched the replay I'm not judging anything!)

If its true, I'll be pretty shocked..

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I really do not have the time to sit here and argue every single situation and position. Sorry.
Yes you do, you are here now sitting around arguing already, so why not use this time to defend yourself, instead of using this time to say that you dont have enough time to defend youself =/
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can jazbas and muse watch these repalys please.. i trust them at their maphacker detective work the most!
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Dude I appreciate the fact that people make the decision after they here both sides of stories. But this could go on forever. I know I am innocent, my girlfriend knows I am innocent... This is all I need to really be at peace with myself. The fact a few others are neutral and cant come to a conclusion and I know I have support others is enough for me to say its inconclusive.

I really do not have the time to sit here and argue every single situation and position. Sorry.
OK then. I would like to hear your account/explanation of TWO situations.

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"Chobo looks into the main and then just randomly pauses for a moment with no actions at 5:30 as a baneling nest is being constructed and I also noted this was happening throughout many of the replays; a random pause with no actions. In sc2gears i looked throughout that time at his actions and there was no right click with his scvs on the mineral patches or anything, just a random look into the main and then natural."

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"Also, if you watch all of Chobo's TvZs he plays completely blind the whole game whenever the zerg goes infestors. Yet on the shakuras game when Mafia was morphing a greater spire he scans both the main and the natural. And on the Ohana game he also scans Mafia's main when he is building a spire. In all other games there were no scans and no scouting, and in all these games the zerg went infestors."

If you can clear up these two situations then it would clear up a lot of things.
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