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Unread Mon, 15th-Oct-2012, 5:25 AM BnetId: Spook.389  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Adelaide, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,570 # 21
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i seriously think the GSL pros dont practice as much as the kespa players at the moment, although i am hearing it 2nd hand at the least so i could be wrong.
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Unread Mon, 15th-Oct-2012, 5:27 AM BnetId: mGGSwitch 788  Race: Clan: mGG  Location: Adelaide, Australia  Total Posts Made: 347 # 22
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Unread Mon, 15th-Oct-2012, 7:21 PM Race: Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 6 # 23
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I don't understand - why do people talk about them 'practising so hard' as if the current GSL players don't practice just as hard? I mean, we all have 24 hours in a day don't we?
GSL players don't really have well-structured training regimens; their coaches are a bit less focused and fewer per team, and they have less motivation since they are less well paid. This means that most of their practice is a bit all over the place, and is mostly on ladder rather than custom games (especially so for players who aren't in teamhouses)

Of course, this is not true for all the ESF teams, but it seems to be the trend.
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Unread Mon, 15th-Oct-2012, 7:33 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: FXOUnstable.707  Total Posts Made: 170 # 24
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GSL players don't really have well-structured training regimens; their coaches are a bit less focused and fewer per team, and they have less motivation since they are less well paid. This means that most of their practice is a bit all over the place, and is mostly on ladder rather than custom games (especially so for players who aren't in teamhouses)

Of course, this is not true for all the ESF teams, but it seems to be the trend.

Most GSL teams have just as structured training regiments as kespa teams their coaches come from kespa teams and some have gone back to coach kespa teams, earlier it wasn't like that but since the kespa players have come to GSL, most esf teams have gotten off their asses. most practice like I explain in this blog http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=370814 it's pretty clear on which ones havent adopted that practice style

In regards to being paid more, B teamers on kespa teams definitely do NOT get paid more than most esf teams, even S class players get much much much less than people have been spreading around.

The difference is kespa does their business development, esf teams don't have any of that in most cases, but they are learning quickly.


In regards to this thread, nothing can be seen from this data, it is pointless because it doesn't factor in when they were played what server they were on. The matches themselves are skewed on who plays who at the same time.
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Unread Mon, 15th-Oct-2012, 7:40 PM BnetId: moofang.144  Race: Clan: FS  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 35 # 25
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It's too early a call imo. I've seen very good players perform relatively poorly plenty of times when the tourney in question isn't considered important enough. For the ESF players this event is surely a little of a sideliner, whereas for the proleaguers many of them didn't make it far in GSL or OSL so they could be taking this more seriously as a place to get a foothold on the new game. The representation on the non-proleague side is a little meagre anyway, with perhaps only MC, alive and Naniwa really qualifying as anything GSL-class.

Next GSL would be where things will really get interesting I think. If Kespa is really to "reign" we should see most of the Kespa players now playing through Code A making and getting far in Code S, but imo not until then. Some of the well performing folks in MvP (flash, jaedong) have already lost in Code A too.
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Unread Mon, 15th-Oct-2012, 7:51 PM BnetId: Chase.380  BattleTag: lolwut  Race: Clan: TCP mGG  Location: Victoria Australia  Total Posts Made: 982 # 26
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Sad to see the current GSL roster be overtaken by the new KesPA players, but I am excited to see the new, even higher level games that will be on offer by these extremely high level and talented players
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