SC2SEA.com - Starcraft 2 SEA eSports Community Site


  • Home
  • About
  • Streams
  • Features
  • Tournaments
  • Forums
SC2SEA.com - Starcraft 2 SEA eSports Community Site > Starcraft 2 Discussion > Strategy & Improvement > [TvZ] In need of serious help
About Us
An Overview of sc2sea
About Us
Contact us
Join our team!
Features
Live Streams
Replays
SEABets
Site Achievements
Articles
Article Archive
Who's Who
sc2sea.com Weekly Tournaments
Tournaments
Every Saturday BSG Open - (Bronze, Silver, Gold)
Every Sunday GPD Open - (Gold, Platinum, Diamond)
Monthly Sunday Masters Cup
Oseanic Championship Series 2015
Point Standings
The Grandmaster Manual
1. Introduction
2. Basics
3. Advanced
4. Anti-Cheese
5. Protoss
6. Zerg
7. Terran
8. Summary
9. Bonus Content!
Coaching
TGM Member Only Forums
TGM Official Coaches
Misc
Help us Rate TGM!!
Suggest what you'll like to see!
Need help? Contact Support!
Community Links
Members List
Search Forums
 
Advanced Search
Search Downloads
Advanced Search
Go to Page...
Community
House Clans
Clans
No recent threads.
Community
No recent threads.
Tournaments
No recent threads.
Latest Blogs New
tier list of people...
asdfSchnitzel
My Life Was Turned...
Sc2Clare
I've been playing...
SLCN.Wally
My Starcraft/eSpor...
syfChadMann
My Starcraft/eSpor...
syfChadMann
General
Stickied Threads
No recent threads.
General Threads
No recent threads.
StarCraft II
Starcraft General
No recent threads.
Strategy Discussion
No recent threads.
BSG Discussion
No recent threads.
Other Games
Other Games
No recent threads.
Sports
No recent threads.
News
News Archive
No recent threads.
Tournament News
No recent threads.
Articles Archive
Replays
Photo Gallery
Mark all forums as read
Reply
Page 2 of 2 < 1 2 All
Display Modes
Thread Tools
View First Unread View First Unread
Unread Fri, 10th-Aug-2012, 3:36 AM BnetId: Prometheus  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 156 # 21
mGGPrometheus
mGGPrometheus's Avatar
Tourneys Joined: 4
I think hellions make for great early game units from which to transition into MMM. If you make something like 6 hellions early game, you can:
1. Take a safe expansion
2. Prevent the zerg from taking a safe expansion
3. Punish him if he's taken a fast 3rd
4. Halt creep spread
After your initial factory, chuck down an expansion, 2 extra rax, 2 refineries, then get stim and tech to medivacs. You can then do a great push with MMM and hellions.
mGGPrometheus is offline   OLD POST Reply With Quote
mGGPrometheus
View Public Profile
Send a private message to mGGPrometheus
Find all posts by mGGPrometheus
Unread Fri, 10th-Aug-2012, 4:13 AM BnetId: ShieldzSPR.744  Race: Location: Hong Kong  Total Posts Made: 657 # 22
Shieldz
Shieldz's Avatar
Tourneys Joined / Won: 4/1
Golden Glory
Achievements (1)
queen has same range as hellion so creep spread cant be denied anymore unless u go hellion banshee to do damage
Shieldz is offline   OLD POST Reply With Quote
Shieldz
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Shieldz
Find all posts by Shieldz
Unread Fri, 10th-Aug-2012, 3:12 PM BnetId: obsta- 419  Race: Location: Perth, Australia  Total Posts Made: 5 # 23
Obsta-
Obsta-'s Avatar
Tourneys Joined: 5
Try mixing in some banshee with whatever build, as a Zerg one thing that really annoys me is when they go to push or pressure and they have banshees cloaked floating around my base. It means we either have to have well placed spores or split our infestors up. Gl
___________________________________
glyo
Obsta- is offline   OLD POST Reply With Quote
Obsta-
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Obsta-
Find all posts by Obsta-
Unread Fri, 10th-Aug-2012, 4:08 PM BnetId: ShieldzSPR.744  Race: Location: Hong Kong  Total Posts Made: 657 # 24
Shieldz
Shieldz's Avatar
Tourneys Joined / Won: 4/1
Golden Glory
Achievements (1)
u need to watch taeja that will help u a lot he has aroundr 80 percent win rate vs z
Shieldz is offline   OLD POST Reply With Quote
Shieldz
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Shieldz
Find all posts by Shieldz
Unread Fri, 10th-Aug-2012, 6:24 PM BnetId: sRLiveR.539  Race: Clan: sR  Location: Jakarta, Indonesia  Total Posts Made: 219 # 25
RVLiveR
RVLiveR's Avatar
Tourneys Joined: 7
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shieldz View Post
u need to watch taeja that will help u a lot he has aroundr 80 percent win rate vs z
I agree, taeja is very good. His TvZ game sense is super accurate.

I remember a while back, he opened 4 rax pressure into mech - you get some pressure out, and he thinks you will probably go bio and prepare banelings and such, great way of hiding mech. (I do think this is considered cheese, but it's still interesting)
RVLiveR is offline   OLD POST Reply With Quote
RVLiveR
View Public Profile
Send a private message to RVLiveR
Find all posts by RVLiveR
Unread Sat, 11th-Aug-2012, 12:12 AM BnetId: faithHunter 598  Race: Clan: TN  Location: Indonesia  Total Posts Made: 260 # 26
faithHunter
faithHunter's Avatar
Tourneys Joined: 15
Reactor Hellions is the standard opener for TvZ since you can scout with them, deny creep spread and maybe fetch a few drone kills. It won't force units out from the Zerg that much compared before they buffed the Queen, but it will delay their expansion assuming you're the harassment well.

In my case, I just go Reaper FE, research Combat Shields and get 4raxes while teching up to medivac tech. Then push after 2 Medivacs are out, then transition to Pure MMM. Works on my league, at least.
___________________________________
Formerly known as neozxa
Instead of complaining about balance, try, try again.
Earlygame ZvZ is basically a knifefight with suicide bombers.
faithHunter is offline   OLD POST Reply With Quote
faithHunter
View Public Profile
Send a private message to faithHunter
Find all posts by faithHunter
Unread Wed, 15th-Aug-2012, 2:49 PM Total Posts Made: 12 # 27
Andross
Default Avatar
Thanks again for the feedback guys at the moment I just do a marine/marauder/hellion push at 10 minutes with +1 and combat and stim, works really well most of the time but you have to micro like hell.
Andross is offline   OLD POST Reply With Quote
Andross
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Andross
Find all posts by Andross
Unread Sun, 19th-Aug-2012, 1:42 PM BnetId: Omny.250  BattleTag: Omny#6646  Race: Location: Adelaide, Australia  Total Posts Made: 34 # 28
Omny
Omny's Avatar
Tourneys Joined: 9
Pretty helpful advice, helped me too
___________________________________
The eight runs in circles chasing its tail, at best moving forward at the pace of a snail.
Omny is offline Send a message via Skype™ to Omny   OLD POST Reply With Quote
Omny
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Omny
Find all posts by Omny
Unread Sun, 19th-Aug-2012, 3:47 PM BnetId: ShieldzSPR.744  Race: Location: Hong Kong  Total Posts Made: 657 # 29
Shieldz
Shieldz's Avatar
Tourneys Joined / Won: 4/1
Golden Glory
Achievements (1)
i really love the timing that u push out with 8 hellion and mm thats pretty cool but then again i prefer marine tank medivac pushes more it just seems like its better
Shieldz is offline   OLD POST Reply With Quote
Shieldz
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Shieldz
Find all posts by Shieldz
Unread Fri, 24th-Aug-2012, 7:00 PM BnetId: singline.935  Race: Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 2 # 30
Singline
Singline's Avatar
hey, i was having exactly same problem not long ago. I'm high level platinum terran also. I went straight back to basics of my build to see what i'd forgotten and where i was going wrong, watch dignitasApollo's tutorials on TvZ again and got my build back on track:
You Tube
You Tube
Singline is offline   OLD POST Reply With Quote
Singline
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Singline
Find all posts by Singline

Reply
Page 2 of 2 < 1 2 All

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
View All Posts View All
Linear Mode Linear Mode
Hybrid Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode
Threaded Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Events
Upcoming Events Add
No events scheduled in
the next 7 days.
OSC SEA Participation Bonus
Live Streams
No streams online.
Open SEABets
No open bets.
2015 OSEANIC Series
Latest Results
Americas Open #110 KeeN
OSC SEA Weekly #24 Probe
SC2Online Comm Open #38 aLive
February EU Ladder Heroes Nerchio
February NA Ladder Heroes TRUE
ANZ Cup #12 iaguz
Filthy NA Weekly #16 Semper
Proxy Tempest Open #43 PiLiPiLi
Top 20 OSC Rankings
1ByuN
2Seither
3DemiLove
4PiLiPiLi
5Kelazhur
6Cham
7iaguz
8aLive
9Solar
10KeeN
11EnDerr
12KingkOng
13TRUE
14GuMiho
15Probe
16puCK
17Snute
18PandaBearMe
19PiG
20Ryung
Full Point Standings
Earn extra points with Challenge Matches!
Bounties
Defeat these players and collect the $'s!
ByuN$100
INnoVation$75
Solar$75
Neeb$60
herO$50
GuMiho$50
Nerchio$50
TRUE$50
uThermal$50
Kelazhur$40
MajOr$40
Scarlett$40
Snute$40
aLive$30
Bly$30
iAsonu$30
KeeN$30
PiLiPiLi$30
puCK$30
Ryung$30
Cham$25
Cyan$25
iaguz$25
Guru$25
Seither$25
Semper$25
JonSnow$15
PandaBearMe$15
Probe$15
Latest Collected
Yours 2-0 Neeb $60
SC2ONLINE Comm Open #38
Azure 2-0 Seither $25
ANZ Cup #12
Cham 2-0 Cyan $25
OSC All Stars #24
FuturE 2-0 KeeN $30
ESL Americas Open #109
Donations
Donate using Paypal!

Even the smallest donations help keep sc2sea running! All donations go towards helping our site run including our monthly server hosting fees and sc2sea sponsored community tournaments we host. Find out more here.
Home - Contact Us - FAQ - Members List - Advertise - Terms of Service - Top - Mobile-friendly (alpha)
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
The contents of this webpage are copyright of sc2sea.com © 2010-2015. All Rights Reserved.
The Grandmaster Manual is a Starcraft 2 Guide created and owned by sc2sea.com
Starcraft2 is a trademark of Blizzard Entertainment, this is a community fan site and no infringement is intended.
Custom artwork by Zeus, Banner designed by Cute, other artworks is used with permission with credits listed here. vBulletin skin by CompletevB.com