[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by breadfan

Well I already mentioned one that would - the Fox. I would bet there are others. The only challenge would be major events on Saturdays and Sundays. Makes GSL finals tough, but MLG and Dreamhack finals could line up nice if people are keen for a pub lunch/liquid breakfast.

Anyway, as I said I am happy to arrange something, so don't worry about naysaying, just leave it to me

If you can get The Fox to agree to hosting a barcraft that wasn't in some back alley room, I will personally give you $100.

People are going on about how big the scene is in Brisbane and how we need a bigger bar than Manabar, when Manabar was a tiny turnout to begin with? I don't get it?

[breadfan]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

If you can get The Fox to agree to hosting a barcraft that wasn't in some back alley room, I will personally give you $100.

As I said, I am absolutely certain I could, obviously with the exception of weekend afternoons/evenings which rules out GSL. But I don't think they suit as they don't have a proper TV area, so whether they will or not is beside the point, I am merely saying that is one bar we could. There was a board game league a friend ran that used their entire games room (taking over their pool tables and all) every Tuesday with about 10-20 dudes a night. Since they went to play a game and might buy a beer on the side and we are going with the specific idea of going to a bar (i.e. spending money at their bar) I could swing it very easily. In fact, I'm tempted to get the OK for a wednesday night barcraft, send you their response then cancel it with them :P

[FvRsolis]

Originally Posted by ACL VaNzR

Completely wrong sorry solis. This is just one of many national events in 2012. The finals will be toward the end of the year.

Back onto the Barcraft topic, there are plenty of pubs that would openly accept Barcraft, although I do agree a weekday would suit them more in most instances.

I should've been more clear then, because in my mind if you hold qualifiers in every major esports hub and then have a tournament that invites the winners/highest seeds it seems kind of like a 'final'. I also use the term 'final' very loosely, I guess more accurate words would be 'the first major tournament' for the ACL.

Also, I don't think the fox logically could host barcraft, we'd need a decent internet connection :S I've been trying to get my boss keen on the idea for a little while now, but I don't know :S

[breadfan]

Exactly Solis. We definitely need to brainstorm ideas

If you catch me in game in #Briscraft, we can chat there

[FvRsolis]

Hit up UQSL man, heaps of Brisbane players lurk there (It's the UQ Starcraft Society's channel).. The Starcraft Society has about 300 members, if you hit me up on facebook @ facebook.com/jessethehill I can invite you :3

[breadfan]

i'm already a member

[ACL VaNzR]

Originally Posted by Solis

.... it seems kind of like a 'final'. I also use the term 'final' very loosely, I guess more accurate words would be 'the first major tournament' for the ACL.

No dramas mate, it does definitely seem like a final, and it is of sorts, its just a branding issue to ensure noone gets confused when we actually have a massive, special National Finals

Back to the barcraft... with the right promotion, how many do you reckon Brisbane can get? 100+ ?

[breadfan]

I think somewhere between 20-40 is a more reasonable mark to aim for for the first barcraft, as long as it's an event that a few people are willing to travel for.

I think it's one of those situations where there are a bunch of people who might not jump on board straight away (social gathering with e-nonymous strangers) and wait to see how the first pans out, and will decide to attend based on that?

I definitely think 100+ is a reasonable down-the-track estimate though

[Rockstar]

actually now that you mention it, maybe the University is the perfect place to organise something like this?

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breadfan:

[breadfan]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

actually now that you mention it, maybe the University is the perfect place to organise something like this?

This did not even cross my mind.... But this is a pro idea

[FvRsolis]

We had events at UQ this year for the Starcraft Society, but to be honest... I never went 1) because it was at UQ and I have no idea how to get around that campus and 2) because all of the GSL finals were really anti-climatic and it was easier to watch from home.

However if something was organized for the Red Room (I think that's the 18+ bar) it could totally work. UQ is fairly easy to get to, it's just navigating that massive campus that's the hard part.

Heck, I'd even be interested in learning to make some sweet cocktails for the event and charging like 6 dollars each for them (not huge ones but mini ones).. The ones at Manabar were good, but 15 dollars a drink T_T I'll stick to beer/vodka thanks!

[Rockstar]

We could organise to meet @ the RE and then just jump on a bus. Does anyone just have a massive house?

If we had a massive house we could BYO piss and just make it like an Origin style event..

[breadfan]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

We could organise to meet @ the RE and then just jump on a bus. Does anyone just have a massive house?

If we had a massive house we could BYO piss and just make it like an Origin style event..

This was an early suggestion from Volition who knew a guy... But I think it might have been with the expectation of only around 10 people. Will have a chat to him, he's been oddly quiet on this thread (he kind of kicked it all off + made the BrisCraft chan

[ToRVenom]

I am going to the ACL at the convention This week. i am Still after a place to stay there. like people to stay with and all that. If u are interested let me know!

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breadfan:

see you there man!

[crayolalax]

Would love to see a barcraft in Brissy. Though 99% chance I'd never get in (being under-age).

[breadfan]

It would be cool to include everyone but suitable venues might be tough enough to find without finding ones that do all ages. But no reason that just because say, the first one is 18+ doesn't mean they always will be.

[AussieDran]

What about trying places further out of the city? Maybe places like the Glen Hotel at Eight Mile Plains, or Mt Gravatt Hotel? On a side note, Elysium Internet Cafe will run a tournament if enough people like the post I made on their facebook wall.

[Sedz]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

No club owner in Brisbane city/Fortitude Valley would agree to having a Barcraft... Manabar is the only one that would go for it because they are a gaming bar..

I don't see having a small venue as an issue, as Brisbane has A) Tiny population B) very few gamers C) Very few bars.

You'd be surprised, in Perth, we've had some bars be super cooperative with us when hosting barcrafts. You just need to show them how profitable it really is, and when you start getting 100+, they generally have no complains and are happy to oblige your recommendations and even set up deals.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Sedz

You'd be surprised, in Perth, we've had some bars be super cooperative with us when hosting barcrafts. You just need to show them how profitable it really is, and when you start getting 100+, they generally have no complains and are happy to oblige your recommendations and even set up deals.

Yeah man I totally know what you're saying... Of course there is potential.... However I'm basing what I'm saying on the turnout to the Barcraft @ Manabar, coupled with the small population of Brisbane, and the general asshole attitude of most club owners in Brisbane.

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FvRsolis:

This so many times over.

[mooseable]

I run Barcraft in Perth and it's huge. Its all about location and promotion. You need to find somewhere central and also, close to a UNI is good too.

Then spend several weeks promoting the crap out of it. Start a Facebook group/twitter account
Do up flyers, put them at the UNI campus and at LAN cafe's, etc.

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Criven:

This man knows his shit.