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Unread Tue, 10th-Jan-2012, 11:43 AM BnetId: rezyn#258  BattleTag: rezyn8#6736  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 896 # 21
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Thanks nirvAnA - Like I said it will just make us try harder, just wanted clarification on their participation.
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Unread Tue, 10th-Jan-2012, 12:06 PM BnetId: VBPotthead.898  Race: Clan: VB  Location: South Australia  Total Posts Made: 787 # 22
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Bugs you don't know how the season will pan out until it happens. And I like the idea of coming up against plat players, even if we get stomped 6-0, cos it gives the players a gauge of how they need to improve to reach the next league. With the ideas of promotion in mind, we could have an even better team that QED dropping down next season, so I see no problem with dealing with QEDPP this season. And who knows, perhaps a team will get a big upset throughout the season!

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Unread Tue, 10th-Jan-2012, 12:52 PM BnetId: TAEdarus.427  Race: Location: Ballarat, Australia  Total Posts Made: 449 # 23
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Personally I can see an EASY way to fix the issue...

Two QED teams, ones plat loaded. Why not just mix the teams up a bit so they have a better spread of BSGP representation, bringing them more in line with the competition and hence allowing both participation in this tier?

I was honestly surprised they stacked one team rather than giving both a bit more equality.

I was under the impression this was BSGP, and the next tier was PD... with P being a bit of a skill bleed-over between the leagues (bridging the gap rather than stating there was one) between the skill levels? In which case I personally don't see an issue with Plats being in teams but I think they have to be more evenly loaded across the leagues.

However, that being said, BSG would be slightly more appropriate for the overall skill levels, with the next tier being PD as they're a lot more tight than Bronze->Plat (too wide a player skill variance perhaps?).
(By this I mean it'd be like putting Plats against GMs... just not quite doable)

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Unread Tue, 10th-Jan-2012, 1:09 PM BnetId: QEDHorse.828  Race: Clan: QED  Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 28 # 24
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8.QED Krrn and co | 0 | 0 | 0| 0/0 | 0


hi can you please put my race as Terran.
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Unread Tue, 10th-Jan-2012, 1:11 PM BnetId: CCBBQChipsy 315  Race: Clan: TCP  Location: Launceston, Australia  Total Posts Made: 39 # 25
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Hey just making sure I am able to change my race over to Zerg? I'm CCBBQChipsy from TCP, thanks
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Unread Tue, 10th-Jan-2012, 1:12 PM BnetId: QEDHorse.828  Race: Clan: QED  Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 28 # 26
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can we consider some of these maps for the SEAL across the board.

Korean Weekly use these maps, i think they are quite good.

• Bel'Shir Beach Winter
• Calm Before the Storm
• ESV Ithaca
• ESV Sanshorn Mist AE
• ESV Cloud Kingdom

i did mention these to Frogmite at the end of last season 2.

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Unread Tue, 10th-Jan-2012, 1:18 PM BnetId: VBPotthead.898  Race: Clan: VB  Location: South Australia  Total Posts Made: 787 # 27
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The problem with those maps is that a vast majority of the players in this Tier would never have played any of them. I assume mostly tournament variants of ladder maps will be used, with a couple unique GSL ones.
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Unread Tue, 10th-Jan-2012, 1:42 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAChadMann.277  Race: Clan: TA/sR  Location: Byron Bay  Total Posts Made: 2,806 # 28
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Personally I can see an EASY way to fix the issue...

Two QED teams, ones plat loaded. Why not just mix the teams up a bit so they have a better spread of BSGP representation, bringing them more in line with the competition and hence allowing both participation in this tier?

I was honestly surprised they stacked one team rather than giving both a bit more equality.
Hey, yes I agree and think perhaps Fridge was aiming to have the QED Platinum Prototypes team into the higher tier, but because of the Tier qualification system that team was placed into Tier 5..

As far as all the rules and map pool and discussion: Maynarde and I are converting the rule set used in higher tiers to make it a bit easier for the 'Casual gamers' in tier 5.. such as more subs, and greater flexibility.

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Unread Tue, 10th-Jan-2012, 1:52 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: Arnor.836  Race: Clan: xGKing  Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 1,967 # 29
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Unread Tue, 10th-Jan-2012, 1:58 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAChadMann.277  Race: Clan: TA/sR  Location: Byron Bay  Total Posts Made: 2,806 # 30
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Random is - and listed on the ZeroCraft Tier 4 / team, I cannot accept his addition to the roster, however I'll add other players.
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Unread Tue, 10th-Jan-2012, 2:00 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: Arnor.836  Race: Clan: xGKing  Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 1,967 # 31
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Random is - and listed on the ZeroCraft Tier 4 / team, I cannot accept his addition to the roster, however I'll add other players.
ok no probs Random was asking to join the team on the thread im guessing he didnt see he was on the list
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Unread Tue, 10th-Jan-2012, 3:22 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAChadMann.277  Race: Clan: TA/sR  Location: Byron Bay  Total Posts Made: 2,806 # 32
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Updated with a Map Pool too!

Rules that may differ to the higher tiers, and Maynarde and I are currently nutting them out:
-Race Picking (probably allowed, but must remain 1 race each week, cannot play a Bo3 with different races)
-Line up announcement (Higher tiers are required to submit their full line up 24/48 hours before the match 1-4, this may not be the case in tier 5 - we might allow line ups to be made at the start of the match (however all 5 players announced before the match starts to an admin - neither team knows the other teams line up until both have announced).
-Line up order (if a team announces (for example) 2 bronze, 1 silver, 1 gold and a plat Ace - they must play in that order, Match 1 will be Bronze, Match 2 Bronze, Match 3 Silver etc... any league may play in the Ace position, and in the case two players from the same league, the manager must speculate which order they play in.
-Subs (changes to a teams Roster, between 3-5 subs will be permitted to make changes to a teams roster

These rules are not final, just giving you an idea of how we are customising the rules to suit tier 5
Any suggestions are welcome...
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Unread Tue, 10th-Jan-2012, 3:29 PM BnetId: rezyn#258  BattleTag: rezyn8#6736  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 896 # 33
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Re 'Line Up Order' - does this mean I can publish a line up such as P - G - S - B - P?

Is there no requirement to start off with low league players as there was in the BSGCL?
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Unread Tue, 10th-Jan-2012, 3:44 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAChadMann.277  Race: Clan: TA/sR  Location: Byron Bay  Total Posts Made: 2,806 # 34
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Re 'Line Up Order' - does this mean I can publish a line up such as P - G - S - B - P?

Is there no requirement to start off with low league players as there was in the BSGCL?
No you can't.. the order must go from lowest league, to highest in the 1-4 matches.. you can pick any player for Ace..
so with that line up you would play B-S-G-P-P OR if you wanted the gold player as ace, B-S-P-P-G
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Unread Tue, 10th-Jan-2012, 4:06 PM BnetId: Volition.893  Race: Location: Toowoomba  Total Posts Made: 209 # 35
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Updated with a Map Pool too!

Rules that may differ to the higher tiers, and Maynarde and I are currently nutting them out:
-Race Picking (probably allowed, but must remain 1 race each week, cannot play a Bo3 with different races)
-Line up announcement (Higher tiers are required to submit their full line up 24/48 hours before the match 1-4, this may not be the case in tier 5 - we might allow line ups to be made at the start of the match (however all 5 players announced before the match starts to an admin - neither team knows the other teams line up until both have announced).
-Line up order (if a team announces (for example) 2 bronze, 1 silver, 1 gold and a plat Ace - they must play in that order, Match 1 will be Bronze, Match 2 Bronze, Match 3 Silver etc... any league may play in the Ace position, and in the case two players from the same league, the manager must speculate which order they play in.
-Subs (changes to a teams Roster, between 3-5 subs will be permitted to make changes to a teams roster

These rules are not final, just giving you an idea of how we are customising the rules to suit tier 5
Any suggestions are welcome...
What does a change to the roster entail? I understood the subs to be used in other leagues where a player couldnt make it - given that we play with whatever players turn up and are online thursday, how do the subs work?

Also just another query - what happens if a team only has 4 players one week? is a single game forfeited (ace match or normal match?) or it is a walk-over?
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Unread Tue, 10th-Jan-2012, 4:30 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAChadMann.277  Race: Clan: TA/sR  Location: Byron Bay  Total Posts Made: 2,806 # 36
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What does a change to the roster entail? I understood the subs to be used in other leagues where a player couldnt make it - given that we play with whatever players turn up and are online thursday, how do the subs work?

Also just another query - what happens if a team only has 4 players one week? is a single game forfeited (ace match or normal match?) or it is a walk-over?

You are correct, in other leagues subs are used to change the line up for the match, week to week.. however, due to the fact that many BSG level players are irregular in their activity we thought it would be better to allow the line ups to be announced at the start of the match.. however teams will have to tell an admin of their line up, before both teams know who they are versing.. as far as the subs that you have in this tier... they are subs to change your teams overall roster. so if a player wishes to join your team half way through the season, you can use a sub to add them.. if you have any changes or additions to your roster, post them here. The rosters are locked after Thursday - but until them you can freely change your line up... just post here before the end of Thursday.
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Unread Tue, 10th-Jan-2012, 4:36 PM BnetId: AsGZealo.172  Race: Clan: AsG  Location: perth, australia  Total Posts Made: 607 # 37
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that takes some of the strategy out of it :/ (harder to have players prepare for specific maps)

i can see that's probably not a big deal in this league, should be fun
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Unread Tue, 10th-Jan-2012, 4:37 PM BnetId: rezyn#258  BattleTag: rezyn8#6736  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 896 # 38
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Is it possible to put forward a line up with 5 golds in the event that no B or S players are available. I don't see this being a problem, specially when they could be facing 5 plats?
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Unread Tue, 10th-Jan-2012, 4:38 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAChadMann.277  Race: Clan: TA/sR  Location: Byron Bay  Total Posts Made: 2,806 # 39
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Is it possible to put forward a line up with 5 golds in the event that no B or S players are available. I don't see this being a problem, specially when they could be facing 5 plats?
at this stage.. yes it will be.
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Unread Tue, 10th-Jan-2012, 8:11 PM BnetId: QEDFridge.623  Race: Clan: QED  Location: South Australia  Total Posts Made: 220 # 40
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Hi Guys,

As requested, I have mixed our teams up ready to go for next thursday

QED Mixed Lollies

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Can't wait!

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QED paving the way for Manner Team of the Season!
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