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Unread Thu, 19th-May-2011, 2:25 PM BnetId: iStSPR.694  Race: Clan: SPR  Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 48 # 21
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studying is way easier than training sc2... id rather try to get decent grades in school...

but if u still want to go pro then go and see some youtube about korean pros.
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Unread Thu, 19th-May-2011, 2:35 PM BnetId: NextRim.158  BattleTag: NextRim#2260  Race: Clan: Team MN8  Location: Russia  Total Posts Made: 560 # 22
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Wow playing deadman (APM70) is impressive. I remember when I played warcraft 3 he was one of my favourite players.
Yes, amazing experience. He showed up for a lan party, it was 2 hours before start, so he decided to play a game or two. There were three wc players in the room then, and we all got to play one game. Your heart is racing, the only thought you have - I'm about to get crushed. He played 100% standard NE game (shined to perfection, ofcourse), but I was constantly nervous for thunder-out-of-his-ass or something. I would compare this feeling to playing a random, who turns out NE, but due to some glitch has production structures of all races. And damn, his micro was perfect. 0 ghoul-archer hits and 0 wisp kills.
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Unread Thu, 19th-May-2011, 3:11 PM BnetId: matthras.568  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 83 # 23
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i see...cos my grades r already failing even before i started sc2 . so yea was thinking maybe i would have a chance in sc2. :P
Just bear in mind that school > university/college isn't the 'one and only' way with regards to education. At 18 I'm guessing you're in your final year of high school, and I would advise upon finishing it with appropriate results so that you've at least got some solid ground in the real world.

Much of what I would say would echo Benji's post, so I'm just going to suggest coming back to this thread in a week and asking yourself whether you still feel the same way as you did when you wrote your first post. Certainly, getting into Diamond from your placement matches a day after purchasing the game, and with no RTS experience beforehand, certainly does feel good - but I would suggest spending the next few days laddering so you can actually get a feel for losing.
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Unread Thu, 19th-May-2011, 4:18 PM BnetId: nGenXeen.438  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 380 # 24
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Play your 4~ hours a day, and if you can get to 'decent' level (ie: win small tourneys, ranked well in Grandmaster, some international presence), then consider going pro and putting in the time (8-10 per day).

Otherwise, chances are you'll put in 30 ladder games a day and still do nothing but float around GM at best.
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Unread Thu, 19th-May-2011, 4:21 PM BnetId: iRLZeion. 735  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 126 # 25
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sonata... i dunno where you're from but ask your local top players how are they doing currently? are they juggling studies/work with game? these are things you need to know before making such decision since it does concern your future..

Let's say.. you did become SEA top player.. what are your plans in your late 30s or 40s? still gaming for your life? without some papers what kinda of job are you planning to do? You may say work in the gaming industries but what techical knowlege do you actually hold?

PLEASE dun get me wrong in me trying to be a wet blanket.. having a goal in mind is good but knowing how to archieve and how will it impact your future is another matter.. Either way, I wish you good luck in what ever decision you are heading into.. =)

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Unread Thu, 19th-May-2011, 4:31 PM BnetId: cTmukade.551  Race: Location: Canberra, Australia  Total Posts Made: 152 # 26
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My advice to you is that success breeds success. School is one of those nice things that if you work hard at it, you will get good results. So if you are doing pretty badly at school, do you really think you can work hard enough to go pro at sc2? Most professional gamers do very well in other facets of life. I reckon you should get your life organised so you can do very well at the stuff you love, without it costing you everything else.
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Unread Thu, 19th-May-2011, 4:50 PM Who's Who:   Race: Clan: iRL  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 1,494 # 27
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Oh dang, I clicked this thread thinking it was a casual discussion thread and was going to post my own playing hours LOL.

I think everyone has already said what needs to be said, hope the TS/OP (what do u guys call it here I've seen variations. Thread-Starter or Original Poster) gets a good grip of reality and makes a wise decision

And I play 1-2 hours a day now (because of work), when I was having hols I played 4-5 hours a day. Still stuck in diamond! This doesn't even include the time watching videos, talking about strategy, lurking forums, etc, which I'm sure the pros may do too.

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Unread Thu, 19th-May-2011, 4:51 PM BnetId: SONATA.415  Race: Total Posts Made: 49 # 28
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hmmm i mean tht for now i will complete my sch now while trying to go pro at the same time. so was thinking if this is actually possible. so yea. i heard tht many gamers quit sch. is tht true? and y? isnt a diploma needed at least?
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Unread Thu, 19th-May-2011, 4:59 PM BnetId: Aero.147  Race: Clan: pX  Location: Chinchilla, Australia  Total Posts Made: 95 # 29
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Haha, ah no. Most pro-gamers do very well at school, and even if they are earning enough to live on then they'd still be completing school. Basically, if you don't have the determination and talent to pass school grade test and do well at them, then that same lack of determination and talent will prevent you from getting anywhere near pro-level in any game.

Basically, put your effort into school. If you're good enough to go pro it'll happen naturally.

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well said! " If you're good enough to go pro it'll happen naturally. "
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Unread Thu, 19th-May-2011, 5:00 PM BnetId: iRLZeion. 735  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 126 # 30
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hmmm i mean tht for now i will complete my sch now while trying to go pro at the same time. so was thinking if this is actually possible. so yea. i heard tht many gamers quit sch. is tht true? and y? isnt a diploma needed at least?
If you're in Singapore, a dip is NOT enough! unless you're happy with a 1.3-5K pay package... further more if you're a singaporean, dun forget bout National Service.. which saps 2 yrs off you life... after that, what age are you? in NS how much time can afford to you play?
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Unread Thu, 19th-May-2011, 5:12 PM BnetId: SONATA.415  Race: Total Posts Made: 49 # 31
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haha i study in singapore. but i am a foreigner. my frens were talking bout this game and i wasnt sure whether to buy it till yesterday.
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Unread Thu, 19th-May-2011, 5:15 PM BnetId: NextRim.158  BattleTag: NextRim#2260  Race: Clan: Team MN8  Location: Russia  Total Posts Made: 560 # 32
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Are you speaking US$? If yes, I'm in for this kind of deal right now

*gone packing for Singapore
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Unread Thu, 19th-May-2011, 5:33 PM BnetId: iRLZeion. 735  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 126 # 33
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Are you speaking US$? If yes, I'm in for this kind of deal right now

*gone packing for Singapore

it's 900 -1k usd...
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Unread Thu, 19th-May-2011, 5:40 PM BnetId: Paroxysm.938  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Townsville, Australia  Total Posts Made: 626 # 34
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As people have said, it is probably more important that you focus on schoolwork and study to at least land a solid foundation on which to live. After that you could probably start to focus more on gaming.
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Unread Thu, 19th-May-2011, 6:07 PM Who's Who:   Race: Clan: eCKo  Location: Adelaide, Australia  Total Posts Made: 750 # 35
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I try to put 2 hours minimum in a day for sc2. If you want to get really good, have consistent practice. But dont sacrifice your future for it.
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Unread Thu, 19th-May-2011, 6:23 PM BnetId: TAscm.495  Race: Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 92 # 36
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Unread Thu, 19th-May-2011, 6:37 PM BnetId: TAminimat.828  Race: Clan: TA  Total Posts Made: 706 # 37
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Sorry bro but you most likely aren't going to make it pro. You bought it yesterday clam down you might not even like it in 2 weeks. Also can you please spell the full ******* word? How hard is it to add ool to sch?
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Unread Thu, 19th-May-2011, 7:27 PM BnetId: AlphaWhale.628  Race: Total Posts Made: 73 # 38
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There's no reason you can't do both to an extent, however to drop everything to go full time professional is a big leap of faith and will require you to work incredibly hard to prove yourself as the high elite in very young and still developing field.

I'd suggest you gauge yourself first, with all the free open online tournaments with prize pools now you can determine for yourself where you stand.
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Unread Thu, 19th-May-2011, 7:49 PM BnetId: SONATA.415  Race: Total Posts Made: 49 # 39
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thanks guys. guess that i will focus on both for the time being. school and starcraft 2 together. after school end then i will choose what to do. sorry bout this. maybe i got a little too hot headed... thanks for the advices guys. i appreciate it. ^.^
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Unread Thu, 19th-May-2011, 9:32 PM Who's Who:   Race: Location: Melbourne  Total Posts Made: 336 # 40
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I tried to go pro in wc3 when I was 16. Failed miserably, since I had school, g/f, fencing and parents. Basically, you have to give up everything in order to perform anywhere remotely close to a low-pro level. Practiced maybe 7 hours a day.

I only managed to beat the ladder up to level 40-ish, biggest tourney for me was wc3l, where i got to round 1/16 and was roflstomped by Crafty (at best 10-th strongest German player at the time). I played Deadman couple times too, but meh, he is superior by a vast margin. No wonder he went to WCG for Russia every time. Guess I have no talent for high-lvl RTS.

So I got a degree in financial analysis and currently working in corporate banking. It actually feels much easier both physically and mentally than beating ladder 7 hours straight
ur nick in wc3?

also what team did u play for? ( since u played wc3l qualfier)

I guess I could answer the topic as well. I play everything from 0 to 12 hours a day. Some weeks I don't play and some weeks I play a lot.

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