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Unread Mon, 28th-Feb-2011, 8:01 PM BnetId: Dogsi 190  Race: Location: Jakarta, Indonesia  Total Posts Made: 171 # 1
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Ok, so planning on having a big tournament to celebrate the 1 year anniversary of Starcraft 2. It will be a $1,500 prize pool.

I'm planning on having it be a 32 player tournament. The top 8 from Saturday's tournament will be invited. The other 24 players will have to earn their place in a qualifier.

I am thinking first place will be $800, second place will be $400 and third place will be $200. Then I'll also give out a $100 reward for "game of the month" (ie, the most creative play or the best overall match, such as redarchon vs aLtAaron or pRoCobo's 28 kill colossus drop).

I won't start qualifiers til mid April. Between now and then though, I'd like some feed back on what I could do to improve things. For instance, the map pool has been raised quite a few times. Given that the qualifiers will be played over 3 months, problems might arise.

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Unread Mon, 28th-Feb-2011, 8:12 PM BnetId: Usul.775  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 76 # 2
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:O

Wow, such a big prize pool and no announcement of an announcement of the announcement???

More seriously, that's a great news. The sc2 community is lucky to have you.
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Unread Mon, 28th-Feb-2011, 8:15 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAEdgE.100  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Adelaide, Australia  Total Posts Made: 956 # 3
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Very nice idea here Dogsi!
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Unread Mon, 28th-Feb-2011, 8:25 PM BnetId: sKyAU.570  Race: Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 461 # 4
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Where do you get this money -_-
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Unread Mon, 28th-Feb-2011, 8:55 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: aLtOxygeN.576  Race: Total Posts Made: 127 # 5
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dogsi, can i suggest that you start qualifiers in late march- end april. (24 participants can be done over 8 qualifiers; 2 per week.) as well as why not hold the tournament in mid-may? i think July there may be WCG(if it is included etc) which may clash with the players schedules!
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Unread Mon, 28th-Feb-2011, 8:57 PM BnetId: Dogsi 190  Race: Location: Jakarta, Indonesia  Total Posts Made: 171 # 6
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Where do you get this money -_-
My bank :-P

Have a moderate income and very low expense.
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Unread Mon, 28th-Feb-2011, 9:00 PM BnetId: Dogsi 190  Race: Location: Jakarta, Indonesia  Total Posts Made: 171 # 7
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dogsi, can i suggest that you start qualifiers in late march- end april. (24 participants can be done over 8 qualifiers; 2 per week.) as well as why not hold the tournament in mid-may? i think July there may be WCG(if it is included etc) which may clash with the players schedules!
I thought WCG was august? I'll have to check on that...

I'm doing it in July basically because I wanted to coincide with the anniversary of SC2.

Also, my wife agrees to me kicking out $300 a month for this "pointless hobby" of mine. So that works out to be about $1,500 by July :-P


Why wait until late March? Less time between qualifiers and the actual tournament?
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Unread Mon, 28th-Feb-2011, 9:07 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: aLtOxygeN.576  Race: Total Posts Made: 127 # 8
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I thought WCG was august? I'll have to check on that...

I'm doing it in July basically because I wanted to coincide with the anniversary of SC2.

Also, my wife agrees to me kicking out $300 a month for this "pointless hobby" of mine. So that works out to be about $1,500 by July :-P


Why wait until late March? Less time between qualifiers and the actual tournament?
oh i think singapore wcg last year was july. haha.

oh because as a suggestion i was thinking 4 weeks of qual, 2 weeks break then the finals.

it can also be spread out across 8 weeks(1 each week), then 2 weeks break.

idk. haha just my thoughts
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Unread Mon, 28th-Feb-2011, 9:31 PM BnetId: Dogsi 190  Race: Location: Jakarta, Indonesia  Total Posts Made: 171 # 9
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24 additional players = 12 qualifiers at 2 per qualifier (what I am currently planning).
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Unread Mon, 28th-Feb-2011, 9:35 PM BnetId: Dogsi 190  Race: Location: Jakarta, Indonesia  Total Posts Made: 171 # 10
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Maps... any suggestions?

I'd like to have at least 5 maps but more would be better I think...
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Unread Mon, 28th-Feb-2011, 9:37 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: NvPinder.933  Race: Clan: TA (Nv)  Location: Melbourne  Total Posts Made: 885 # 11
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Meta, xel'naga and Neo-Lost temple are safe bets for 3 of the maps, as for the other 2, im not sure, hard to pick between GSL maps and other ladder maps T-T....

Maybe one gsl map and one new map pool map?
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Unread Mon, 28th-Feb-2011, 9:57 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: xGKingBenji.281  Race: Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 1,457 # 12
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Meta, xel'naga and Neo-Lost temple are safe bets for 3 of the maps, as for the other 2, im not sure, hard to pick between GSL maps and other ladder maps T-T....

Maybe one gsl map and one new map pool map?
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Great idea tho Dogsi!
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Unread Mon, 28th-Feb-2011, 10:18 PM BnetId: Sixth 451  Race: Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 63 # 13
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Unread Mon, 28th-Feb-2011, 10:32 PM BnetId: Dogsi 190  Race: Location: Jakarta, Indonesia  Total Posts Made: 171 # 14
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do you need a ref =p?
I always just assume you are in dude :-)
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Unread Tue, 1st-Mar-2011, 9:58 AM BnetId: Gerlan.909  Race: Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 184 # 17
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I would ask for 1 change if possible, allow people to register for multiple qualifiers, I was a little disheartened when I found out we could only sign up for 1 qualifier for DMO7.

Alot of factors can play in qualifying, being hang over from the night before, people in the house annoying you, being sick etc... letting people play in every qualifier would also allow good players that may get knocked out in 1 qualifier to have a chance to get into the next one.
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I would ask for 1 change if possible, allow people to register for multiple qualifiers, I was a little disheartened when I found out we could only sign up for 1 qualifier for DMO7.

Alot of factors can play in qualifying, being hang over from the night before, people in the house annoying you, being sick etc... letting people play in every qualifier would also allow good players that may get knocked out in 1 qualifier to have a chance to get into the next one.
With that kind of prize pool, everyone will play in every qualifier and you'll have stupidly large brackets. The idea of the qualifiers is to break down the brackets into small chunks so the finals isnt a 7 hour tourney.

And if you sign up to the qualifier, perhaps don't get drunk the night before, warn your housemates to give you some space and sickness is simply unavoidable. What if you got sick on the finals? Should we postpone it so every player is 100%?
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Unread Tue, 1st-Mar-2011, 10:54 AM BnetId: Gerlan.909  Race: Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 184 # 19
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With that kind of prize pool, everyone will play in every qualifier and you'll have stupidly large brackets. The idea of the qualifiers is to break down the brackets into small chunks so the finals isnt a 7 hour tourney.

And if you sign up to the qualifier, perhaps don't get drunk the night before, warn your housemates to give you some space and sickness is simply unavoidable. What if you got sick on the finals? Should we postpone it so every player is 100%?
Psi Storm had stupidely large brackets but it turned out to be alright, not every game was casted (doing EVERY game would be ridiculous).

It seems you somehow percieved that I was talking about a player getting sick in the finals so let me re-clarify, a person can be sick DURING one of the qualifiers, yes the fact that he/she is sick may affect his/her play but at least he/she knows that there is another chance to get INTO the 24 spots available with the next qualifier, if he/she gets sick during finals then it would be stupid to give 1 player distinct favoritism and postpone the finals.

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The idea of the qualifiers is to break down the brackets into small chunks so the finals isnt a 7 hour tourney.
You can rectify that by allowing 128 players per qualiifers? Bo1 untill RO8 maybe?
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Unread Tue, 1st-Mar-2011, 12:11 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: aLtOxygeN.576  Race: Total Posts Made: 127 # 20
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we could hold 8 qualifiers, 32 per time. top 3 qualifies(makes the 3rd/4th placing worthwhile to play)

as for the maps : XNC, Metal, Shattered Temple, GSL Crossfire and GSL Tal'Darim
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