[deL]

SEACL League 1 (Tier 4)

Week 9
Rounds 14 and 15
Game 1: MLG Metalopolis
Game 2: MLG Shattered Temple
Game 3: GSL Dual Sight
Game 4: GSL Calm Before The Storm
Ace match: MLG Tal'Darim Altar

+ [Map Pool] +

MLG Metalopolis, GSL Antiga Shipyard, MLG Shakuras Plateau, MLG Tal'darim Altar, MLG Shattered Temple, GSL Daybreak, GSL Bel'shir Beach Winter, GSL Calm Before The Storm, GSL Dual Sight, Cloud Kingdom

Format

Starting map for each Bo3 is set above. The loser of the previous game picks the next map from the entire map pool (no veto system). No duplicate maps can be used in the one Bo3.

Chat Channel: SEALTIER4

To submit your lineup, use the admin contact details below stating the race and league of each player, and which map (or game) they are playing in. LINEUPS ARE CONFIDENTIAL. Replacing one of these players more than 48 hours before the tournament begins will use one of your 8 allocated "Wildcards". Similarly, roster additions that you wish to include in the lineup less than 48 hours before the game will use one of four "Subs" and one "Wildcard".

+ [Format] +

Game 1: Bo3 (1point)
Game 2: Bo3 (1point)
Game 3: Bo3 (1point)
Game 4: Bo3 (1point)
Game 5: Ace game: Bo3 (2points)

Draws are possible.
Point system: Win: 3pts, Draw: 1pt, Loss: 0pts

Admins

TAdeL#159 (Skype: cgaudel)

Matches - Week 9

Thursday 15th March 2012
NOTE: Both rounds are played on the Thursday, one after the other, UNLESS RESCHEDULED.

Round 14	Round 15
09:00pm AEDT	10:30pm AEDT
-------	-------
iRL [0-4] TA	TA [5-1] KFC
LOSE < W.O. > WIN	TABlitz < W.O. > TSAce
LOSE < W.O. > WIN	TADanny < W.O. > KFCtrinion
LOSE < W.O. > WIN	Zepph < W.O. > CbBtreAd
LOSE < W.O. > WIN	TASlowHands < 1-2 > KFCBukket
LOSE < W.O. > WIN	TADivinity < 2-0 > Nightmare
KFC [4-2] AsG	iRL [0-4] eXofG
TSAce < 1-2 > AsGZealo	LOSE < W.O. > WIN
KFCtrinion < 2-0 > AsGThor	LOSE < W.O. > WIN
CbBtreAd < 0-2 > Jayaiwhy	LOSE < W.O. > WIN
KFCBukket < 2-1 > AsGNasch	LOSE < W.O. > WIN
Nightmare < 2-0 > Goosejuice	LOSE < W.O. > WIN
eXofG [3-2] FaDe 1	AsG [6-0] VB
xfgGerms < 0-2 > FaDeKript	AsGZealo < 2-0 > VBSirhcle
PacificAlice < 2-1 > FaDeLemon	AsGArmi < 2-0 > VBEverion
xFgSurt < W.O. > Honeybadger	Jayaiwhy < 2-0 > VBBoony
eXoBASA < 0-0 > FaDeRawfish	Goosejuice < 2-0 > VBWhiplashJC
eXoCeephyr < 2-0 > FaDeMouse	AsGThor < 2-0 > VBHpK
VB [2-4] SCT	FaDe 1 [1-3] TCP
VBRhuubarb < 2-0 > MJtron	FaDeEpic < 1-2 > Durrr
VBEverion < 0-2 > DrSayus	FaDeLemon < 0-0 > FYRE
VBBoony < 2-0 > ProEpsilon	Honeybadger < 2-0 > TCPLemminks
VBWhiplashJC < 1-2 > Demackas	FaDeRawfish < 0-0 > TragicHero
VBHpK < W.O. > Iunou	FaDeMouse < W.O. > ZiggyD
TCP [2-4] FaDe 2	SCT [0-6] ToT
Durrr < 2-1 > FaDeKazi	MJtron < W.O. > Droptheworld
FYRE < 1-2 > Kerrigan	DrSayus < 0-2 > RedNight
ElementFC < W.O. > FaDeSagi	ProEpsilon < 0-2 > StMonth
TragicHero < 2-1 > FaDeSorathez	Demackas < 0-2 > Zephyrus
ZiggyD < 1-2 > FaDePesi	Iunou < 0-2 > Alopex
ToT [5-1] NaZ	FaDe 2 [4-1] HDMD-kT
Alopex < 2-0 > NaZenabi	FaDeKazi < 0-0 > HDChinkzMD
RedNight < 2-0 > NaZSolstice	Kerrigan < 1-2 > HDPapyrusMD
Droptheworld < 0-2 > Bwodie	FaDeSagi < W.O. > HDSyntaxMD
Zephyrus < 2-0 > NaZPittsy	FaDeSorathez < W.O. > HDSmojFaceMD
StMonth < 2-0 > NaZCrispy	FaDePesi < W.O. > HDmokssMD
HDMD-kT [1-5] ipr	NaZ [3-1] ToR
HDChinkzMD < 0-2 > iprBearpack	Doufoos < 0-0 > NaZenabi
HDPapyrusMD < 2-0 > iprScrubzor	ToRsPook < 2-0 > NaZSolstice
HDSyntaxMD < W.O. > iprArrival	ToRDjvillian < 0-0 > Bwodie
HDSmojFaceMD < W.O. > Montycarlo	ToRGunz < 0-2 > NaZPittsy
HDmokssMD < W.O. > KingPenguin	Shadowz < 2-1 > NaZCrispy
ToR [1-5] ZeroCraft	ipr [1-5] ZeroCraft
Doufoos < 0-2 > ShiFTy	iprBearpack < 0-2 > ShiFTy
Shadowz < 2-1 > Insurgence	iprScrubzor < 2-0 > infinity
ToRDjvillian < 0-2 > suman	iprArrival < 0-2 > suman
ToRGunz < 0-2 > krip	Montycarlo < 0-2 > Insurgence
ToRsPook < 0-2 > nGenFlar	Gonzo < 1-2 > tubby

Current Standings

Team	Played	Win	Draw	Loss	Record	WCs	Subs	Penalty	Points
1. TA	13	12	1	0	59/16 (+45)	4	3	0	37
2. KFC	13	12	0	1	58/16 (+44)	3	4	0	36
3. ToT	13	9	2	2	50/26 (+24)	7	1	0	29
4. AsG	13	9	1	3	48/28 (+20)	5	3	0	28
5. FaDe 1	13	8	2	3	49/27 (+22)	1	1	2	26
6. ZeroCraft	13	7	1	5	41/28 (+14)	5	1	2	22
7. ipr	13	7	1	5	37/35 (+2)	4	1	0	22
8. eXofG	13	5	3	5	38/38 (±0)	6	3	0	18
9. iRL	13	4	1	8	27/49 (-22)	3	1	4	12*
10. SCT	13	3	2	8	28/45 (-17)	1	0	0	11
11. TCP	13	3	2	8	30/48 (-18)	5	3	1	11
12. ToR	13	3	2	8	27/44 (-18)	6	1	1	11
13. VB	13	3	1	9	28/48 (-20)	4	3	1	10
14. HDMD-KT	13	3	2	8	22/52 (-30)	6	0	4	10*
15. NaZGaming	13	1	4	8	24/51 (-27)	7	3	1	7
16. FaDe 2	13	2	1	10	18/58 (-40)	4	1	3	7

*Subs are the number of additional team members that can be added to the roster, up to 4 maybe used.
*Wildcards (WCs) are the number of replacements for no-shows allowed from the roster, up to 8 may be used.
*Penalties are accrued for late submission of results or lineups, and will carry various penalties yet to be decided.
*Team points marked with an asterisk denote a point deduction has occurred due to penalty points.

Casters

• FaDeHalstrom (Official; first choice of games)
• Suman (Volunteer stream)
• deL (Volunteer stream)
• HazZerK (Volunteer stream)
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Brackets - Official Thread - Preview Thread

Thread Archive
Week 1 - Week 2 - Week 3 - Week 4 - Week 5 - Week 6 - Week 7 - Week 8 - Week 9

Quick Comments

	ToRSpartaz:	Delbert is SEX <3 + Rep ^^
	Zealo:	i just feel like i should rep you more often
	lolwut:

[deL]

No lineups submitted yet! I want 100% attendance in the final week to prove the playoffs are worth a prize!

[syfMiley]

As Divinity would say, "I'm excited"

[Dracover]

TA hwaiting. Drop me a pm if i'm needed. Though you guys seem to be doing fine without me =D.

[[TA]LoSt]

http://sc2ranks.com/sea/388317/Nightmare

You're kidding right? 48-14.. This guy would rape every TA tier 2 member and he's been playing in tier 4 since the start? Why has nobody said anything and why is this even being allowed..?

http://www.sc2ranks.com/sea/65000/nGenFlar

As well? Why have these guys been playing in this tier when they'd EASILY compete in tier 2, even give some t1 players a run for their money?

Gotta be kidding yourselves.. Wish I saw this earlier

Quick Comments

	TAminimat:
	TAScaramanga:

[KAshadowz]

Originally Posted by [TA]LoSt

http://sc2ranks.com/sea/388317/Nightmare

You're kidding right? 48-14.. This guy would rape every TA tier 2 member and he's been playing in tier 4 since the start? Why has nobody said anything and why is this even being allowed..?

http://www.sc2ranks.com/sea/65000/nGenFlar

As well? Why have these guys been playing in this tier when they'd EASILY compete in tier 2, even give some t1 players a run for their money?

Gotta be kidding yourselves.. Wish I saw this earlier

I agree with what you're saying, although arguably it is hard to pick out in the beginning as they were masters.

48-14 is insane, the team said they didnt want to split up...I guess thats how it turned out.

Regardless it doesn't matter too much now at the end of the season as the tops teams should be moving onto the next tier anyways.

Quick Comments

TCPLemminks:

Precisely!

[BASA]

what about the other matchups?

[ZCPooSmear]

Originally Posted by [TA]LoSt

http://sc2ranks.com/sea/388317/Nightmare

You're kidding right? 48-14.. This guy would rape every TA tier 2 member and he's been playing in tier 4 since the start? Why has nobody said anything and why is this even being allowed..?

http://www.sc2ranks.com/sea/65000/nGenFlar

As well? Why have these guys been playing in this tier when they'd EASILY compete in tier 2, even give some t1 players a run for their money?

Gotta be kidding yourselves.. Wish I saw this earlier

You seem mad bro.
nGenFlar joined us when he was in Masters. Ladder grind. Won. Got promoted. Before this season started, people complained about having Masters players in other teams, so then they got masters players or got promoted themselves and got over it. Also being in another tier would require we have the sufficient number of GM players to even join the tier in the first place. But sadly we don't, so I guess you could say that this is the best "A Team" we could produce.

So again, UMAD? ~

Quick Comments

	VB_WhiplashJC:	No need for the taunt, bro.
	[TA]LoSt:	You're an idiot
	TAminimat:	idiot
	Maynarde:	Acceptable response with unacceptable wrapping
	TACosmic:	scumbag maynarde pos repping
	iM yang:	have some respect in your posts
	TAScaramanga:	You sir lack elegance and class, Dudley would be disapointed.
	Champi:	you would fit in well in the youtube community
	Zealo:	no need to BM, but totally agree with your point
	NvPinder:	You are a pizza burn on the roof of the worlds mouth
	TADivinity:	You lose credibility with childish taunts
	ToRSpookToR:	..|..
	simon:	you sir should be embarrassed right now

[jayaiwhy]

Originally Posted by suman

You seem mad bro.
nGenFlar joined us when he was in Masters. Ladder grind. Won. Got promoted. Before this season started, people complained about having Masters players in other teams, so then they got masters players or got promoted themselves and got over it. Also being in another tier would require we have the sufficient number of GM players to even join the tier in the first place. But sadly we don't, so I guess you could say that this is the best "A Team" we could produce.

So again, UMAD? ~

No need for the taunt, bro.

[[TA]LoSt]

Originally Posted by suman

You seem mad bro.
nGenFlar joined us when he was in Masters. Ladder grind. Won. Got promoted. Before this season started, people complained about having Masters players in other teams, so then they got masters players or got promoted themselves and got over it. Also being in another tier would require we have the sufficient number of GM players to even join the tier in the first place. But sadly we don't, so I guess you could say that this is the best "A Team" we could produce.

So again, UMAD? ~

....

No matter what the excuse is, the fact that they're in there playing every week is disgraceful.. How proud do you feel that he's winning every match?

There was no need for you to post here and do some ridiculous attempt at trolling. Definitely viewing you and your team (as the only person to step up and say something regarding the issue) in a different way now. Guess you're lucky Zerocraft isn't actually a clan..

Aside from that, fact is that T3 is basically a diamond/masters tier as well, with maybe a few GM's per team max. With an ace that could EASILY compete in this division, how do you feel knowing he's acing every week in this division?

[TAEdgE]

Since when could Flar get a record like that lol o.o... nice improvement

[Maynarde]

I was meant to neg rep you suman, you can't carry on like that when someone wants answers. Accidently hit positive but most certainly don't want to reward "u mad" responses. This isn't acceptable.

Quick Comments

ToRSpookToR:

mine was also meant to be neg rep godam

[TCPLemminks]

Right before this gets out of hand.

deL and I knew about Nightmare becoming GM and I personally would like to congratulate him on achieving that. Nightmare joined the league as a Masters player. I'm sure we can agree that it is difficult to gauge a Master player's skill level since there is a large skill gap within itself. Therefore players could be just above diamond or just below GM.

When ngenflar joined ZC, he was . We had allowed several players in as subs before so there was no problem with adding him to the ZC roster.

Both ngenflar and Nightmare achieved their status after joining the league, presumably through hard work. There are no league restrictions in this league nor in any other league. To take action now by stating that they cannot play is both unfair to them for their achievements and to the teams that have already faced against them.

Therefore I personally will not be taking any actions, especially considering that this is the final week. I'm pretty sure that T3, T4, and T5 will be reshuffled for the next SEACL, so I'm assuming that because of their GM status, Zerocraft and KFC will be promoted to T3.

P.S. I would appreciate it if you didn't start forest fires

Quick Comments

	TAEdgE:
	crAzerk:	agree
	ZCPooSmear:	yes ma'am! Was probably feeling a little trollish before D:
	Frogmite:	forest fires
	Zealo:	♥
	deL:	so wise and handsome
	Reere:	what a firefighter~!
	Goosejuice:
	Valour:
	zenabi:
	Trinion:

[ZCPooSmear]

*sigh* Well yes, I do take the blame for that ridiculous post, quite out of character tbh! However I do still hold true to the fact that our team is quite small (we have some inactive players) and its hard to swap people around; especially when we're trying to hold top 6 on the scoreboard.
When I signed our team up at the start of the season, we asked to be Tier3 however nGenFlar wasn't with us then. Maybe next season. Hope you don't think too badly of us after this apology post?

Quick Comments

syfChadMann:

[TAScaramanga]

Originally Posted by suman

*sigh* Well yes, I do take the blame for that ridiculous post, quite out of character tbh! However I do still hold true to the fact that our team is quite small (we have some inactive players) and its hard to swap people around; especially when we're trying to hold top 6 on the scoreboard.
When I signed our team up at the start of the season, we asked to be Tier3 however nGenFlar wasn't with us then. Maybe next season. Hope you don't think too badly of us after this apology post?

What........Who else was meant to take the blame? -_-

[syfMiley]

Comeon fellas, manner up and let's just play the game ^^

[ZCLLaMApOO]

Considering that 'GM' is just a label for a player who is in the top 200 of Masters League, if you're going to make a big deal out of this then you may as well ask for a points restriction in Masters League.

I can assure you noone would even notice if someone was #1 in Masters (essentially GM)

[VB_WhiplashJC]

Both sides of the argument have merit. I think the other issue is having 16 teams.

These problems could be at least partially solved by making more teams promote to t3 than demote.

[deL]

Regarding suman's outburst, he is one of the hardest working managers trying to organise a bunch of guys who aren't really a team and he was probably frustrated. His team was for so long basically the only one without Masters league representation and he finally got a single player to stay competitive in ace matches and all of a sudden everyone is asking him to be banned from competing haha. Some sympathy there and hope people don't judge him on that post above.

Just to echo what Lemminks said earlier, we were given instructions in this league that there were no league restrictions and it includes masters players (as from my very first post in the league you can see the use of the masters logo in the headings). The rule of thumb was later promotions are OK and we've kind of carried that rule on. Some teams are able to field all 5 Masters league players so there shouldn't be anything wrong with a team fielding a single GM player and the rest of them Diamond or Plat. Come playoffs there are no ace matches so it won't be as big an advantage anyway.

[ToR.Arnor]

Originally Posted by [TA]LoSt

....

No matter what the excuse is, the fact that they're in there playing every week is disgraceful.. How proud do you feel that he's winning every match?

There was no need for you to post here and do some ridiculous attempt at trolling. Definitely viewing you and your team (as the only person to step up and say something regarding the issue) in a different way now. Guess you're lucky Zerocraft isn't actually a clan..

Aside from that, fact is that T3 is basically a diamond/masters tier as well, with maybe a few GM's per team max. With an ace that could EASILY compete in this division, how do you feel knowing he's acing every week in this division?

Isnt actually a clan? Its actually a little insulting to say something like that, I know you Lost and you're a good bloke so Im going to bite my tongue.


Just so you know Im the co-founder of the clan/team "Zerocraft"

The idea of "Zerocraft" was to the ultimate Lower tier team/clan its a team for all the displaced and teamless members of the community, My (and sumans) aim was to fill a gap to actually brand ourselves we were the team to go to if you didnt fit the mould, we're the misfits, from different walks of life we are the Herocraft of the lower divisions, "Clanless" may not have been a "real" team/clan however funny thing is after a season of playing together they were more of a clan then most.

I understand your frustration but I dont see what business a Tier 2 player has in questioning how T4 is run

TA tier 4 has what 4-5 Masters? Fact is he was Masters when he join and ZC picked up a Master or two because they entered into this league in good faith with Diamond / Plat players, not knowing Masters could be involved having a small roster when time came to recruit naturally a strong Masters player is preferred over a average Plat player, we could have just said screw it can Tier 4 will pack our Tier 5 roster with Plats when things got tough but suman wanted to remain in the competition. Cant blame a person for getting better at the game, 1 week is left in the comp why argue over something silly? In the off season ZC will hopefully pick up a couple more Masters and hopefully some plat-diamond and diamond-masters promotions will mean they can make T3.

Yeah Suman was out of line with his rant he knows that but its easily to lose your temper when the pot is calling the kettle black


Just so you know some of our members have already used their name change to add ZC to their name

Id like to thank you for your input today because youve convinced me to do the same