[inFeZa]

Just tell the game like it is.

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[simon]

the face changes nothing arnor. people know benji a little bit better than that. If you dont then just go watch the CH stream vods from sunday where he mentions stream numbers atleast once every series.

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iM yang:

i like the use of sanctimonious twat

[syfChadMann]

Originally Posted by |Erasmus|

Xeria vs. InFi is a pretty exciting matchup.

Would have been an exciting match up.. but InFi needed to reschedule, then after Targa made a 'bad joke in poor taste' (maybe he should of suffixed it with - :P) Benji decided not to work with InFi and just take a 'free walk over win' in the match.. so it won't be played.

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	nGenLight:	I wanted the 2 more wins to add on top my ELO... OOOOOH
	x5.Revenant:	ｉ　ｌｏｌ－ｅｄ　ａｔ　ｔｈｅ　＂ｓｕｆｆｉｘ　ｉｔ　ｗｉｔｈ&#
	TCPKiaSu:	wow....

[TABiggun]

Originally Posted by TAChadMann

Would have been an exciting match up.. but InFi needed to reschedule, then after Targa made a 'bad joke in poor taste' (maybe he should of suffixed it with - :P) Benji decided not to work with InFi and just take a 'free walk over win' in the match.. so it won't be played.

What the hell, how can it be given a walkover? that's redic

[Frogmite]

Originally Posted by TAChadMann

Would have been an exciting match up.. but InFi needed to reschedule, then after Targa made a 'bad joke in poor taste' (maybe he should of suffixed it with - :P) Benji decided not to work with InFi and just take a 'free walk over win' in the match.. so it won't be played.

inFi couldn't align a player this week so they asked xG if they could play the 5 games next week instead, or else they asked me to forfeit them for this week.

edit: but yeah let's not derail the thread

[Dox]

I'm sure if TargA put a at the end of his post, this whole thing would have been dismissed as a misunderstanding and xG wouldn't have taken a free win over infi.

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[TargA]

Originally Posted by Dox

I'm sure if TargA put a at the end of his post, this whole thing would have been dismissed as a misunderstanding and xG wouldn't have taken a free win over infi.

i still stand for what i said, and ive been saying it for a while now.

And a funny thing for you guys, Ive been talking to different teams (european and us teams) and a few guys that want to sponsor teams in SEA and we talked about exposure, potential etc. Pretty much everyone that has done some research of SEA hates benji and some of them even dislikes Dox ( for the same reason of being biased.)

Oh yeah, I refuse to let benji in my tournament games and I hope the rest of inFi follows suit " :P "

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[Dox]

Originally Posted by TargA

Pretty much everyone that has done some research of SEA hates benji and some of them even dislikes Dox ( for the same reason of being biased.)

Hahaha that's fascinating! What/who am I biased towards?

[x5_Potter]

Originally Posted by Dox

Hahaha that's fascinating! What/who am I biased towards?

You're biased towards towards running awesome tournaments, how dare you!

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[TargA]

Originally Posted by Dox

Hahaha that's fascinating! What/who am I biased towards?

to be honest i dont know, might be people hatin cause they be hatin.

[Maynarde]

Alright enough of this ":P" troll. Back on track please.

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[Fourby]

Originally Posted by TargA

i still stand for what i said, and ive been saying it for a while now.

And a funny thing for you guys, Ive been talking to different teams (european and us teams) and a few guys that want to sponsor teams in SEA and we talked about exposure, potential etc. Pretty much everyone that has done some research of SEA hates benji and some of them even dislikes Dox ( for the same reason of being biased.)

Oh yeah, I refuse to let benji in my tournament games and I hope the rest of inFi follows suit " :P "
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TargA, be my buddah

[Stallion]

My thoughts on Benji's casting are simple
I enjoy watching his casts especially the ones like at city hunter where we get to see some players come in and cast too.
The things I'd like to see benji improve on saying that is fairly simple. Try to be less biased I know Benji knows he is and probably is trying to tune it down but still needs to be said. I Also feel within XgKing though there's a perferance on the original team. Like at the most recent cityhunter in mafia vs pokerface I felt you were being harsh on pokerface and supportive of mafia. I think if anything this should be the other way around. You added these players to your roster to strengthen your team and I feel as the caster manager you want the new additions to take down the old members to make them all want to practice and get better. Also having said this I know i love going for the underdog i do live in new zealand and we love underdogs cos we always are :P

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[Dox]

Damn! I was wondering if it had anything to do with Rossi getting a free invite to WCG 2011 lol. Oh well!

[Apth]

eDrama aside - I'm gonna address this directly to Benji in an effort to provide some constructive criticism.

From what I've watched of your casting - which has been a fair bit - you focus too much on the negative. I mentioned this offhandedly in the chat for SGL, which you picked up on, and I'd like to elaborate a bit.

People enjoy being happy and excited. That's kind of a no brainer. Focusing on positive aspects of play serves two purposes -
• You avoid alienating supporters of the player you're being down on
• You generate a positive atmosphere

To get a little more specific, and admittedly hypothetical, if Player A crushes Player B in an engagement, my impression of your casting is that you will tend to focus more on how badly Player B did, rather than how well Player A did.

What I would suggest is attempting to skew your casting more in favour of positive comments - even if someone has a really trashy engagement, you can always put positive spin on it - it's a tournament, they're under pressure, other aspects of their game have been really strong, etc etc - and of course you have the option of elucidating how fantastic Player A's micro or positioning was.

In summary - the feel/atmosphere of your casts is a bit... mean. As a viewer, I want to walk away from a game thrilled at how epic it was. I don't need to be told how bad someone did, or how left of field their decisions were.

I sincerely hope you take that on board, because your presentation, enthusiasm and persistence are all fantastic. Switching up your attitude a little will - for me personally - make you a pleasure to watch.

./2c

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	Maynarde:	Excellent post
	SLCN.Kez:	Well said
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	FaDeBadger:	Well said
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	VoxMSI.Rogue:	well said
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	TAScarecrow:	some CBT would do wonders
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[iSt]

Originally Posted by TargA

some of them even dislikes Dox ( for the same reason of being biased.)

maybe they are just jealous cause he's the organiser of the year

[RicocheT]

I don't want to jump on the hate bandwagon or anything, but there's just one thing that I can't stand about Benji's casting which is his Xtreme bias to xGKing. Yes, I understand he's the manager of xGKing, but when he's the one casting events as the main caster, he shouldn't have such huge bias towards xGKing when casting (i.e SEA league.).

If there was another thing that Benji could use work with, it would definately also have to be his negativity. Also treat you're viewers better, we're watching to see the players, not hear you tarnish their playstyle/build order or whatever. Yes some people will try un-orthodox strategies and methods, doesn't mean their builds or whatever are trash.

Hopefully you read all the criticism and look forward to more positive fun filled less-biased casting.

2c

[TAXanT]

The notable criticism I have is what other people have already mentioned, the frustratingly biased casting. It has got to the point that when I'm watching Cityhunter/whatever tournament it may be that benji is casting i'll mute the sound whilst an xGKing player is in a game because all that will be pointed out is how well one of his players is going no matter how bad they'll play and like it's been mentioned already I feel it takes credit away from the opposition which is simply unfair.

xGKing boasts some of the best players in the SEA community so they generally tend to do very well in tournaments and make it to the final stages of them. I just find it annoying that other players will fight hard to get to the same point only to have their skills overshadowed/uncredited at times because they are not under his team.

This may not be Benji's intention and sure if you are a team mananger you want them to do well and cheer them on but it doesn't change that one of the principles of being a caster is to be strictly unbiased.

I think he is a good caster and obviously devotes much of his time to the SEA community, but if he wants to grow as a caster this is something that needs to be addressed as it's clearly bothering a lot of people.

That being said this thread has suprisingly produced plenty of constructive criticism for Benji to listen to and I hope he does as I believe he'll be seen in a much more positive light from SC2SEA. It would be a shame for all of this to be swept under the rug so to speak.

[Xenomorph]

I would like to add to this discussion. Benji - I like what you've done for SEA man, but it was pretty wrong of you to put down my players and sometimes not even focus on them in the game (Iaguz vs Sungin SEAPL match in particular). The situation I had with Soulman aswell, was I thought a lot messier than it needed to be (See **) and I really thought you could have bee a bit more lenient in the early stages of negotiations. All up though, your casting is good, but you need to consider the other player, not just xGKing's, as this may also help you coach your players if you see a weakness in their build/general play because of the opponents build.

** The xGKing vs SPR Soulman situation **

For our SEAPL match vs xGking, I had decided that we needed RS(Rising Star's) Soulman as ace, so that we would have the most optimal chance of taking the match. However, Soulman could only play on the Thursday, so the match would need to be delayed. Benji, however, said absolutely not and suggested that I needed to replace him. This to me seemed pretty harsh, and I tried to explain to him that I went to a LOT of trouble to get him to play (Korean Pro-gamers are so busy) and that I would really appreciate it if he could be more lenient considering the situation.
To make this situation worse, only 5/10 of our rosters players could actually play that week, so replacement was not an option. It was then, and ONLY then that Benji had asked his players whether the match could be delayed. He then said that Soulman could only play the Daybreak match (not the ace match) as only one of his players could do Thursday. I accepted these terms, as this was my only option and he then explained that he knew he was coming off as a bit of a d*ck about this, but its just that he thought it was very 'unproffesional' to delay matches, I agreed to an extent with this. On Tuesday night however, something very ironic happened, xGKingLight couldn't turn up to the match time due to him being called into work at last minute (it's ok Light bro, I fully understand ) and he then requested the match to be delayed. What I'm getting at is, this can be related to Soulman's situation as he is at work (Pro- gaming team) and cannot make the match time aswell. So Benji, you really shoulda been more lenient and understanding man.**

P.S. Sry for long post, just wanted to explain my side of things

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[PiG]

As someone who has supported Benji's stream and promotion of SEA since he first introduced me to sc2sea I don't feel this is the appropriate place for me to voice any concerns I have. I will be giving him some private advice via skype later on today.

What I do want to ask is that the "arrogant prick", "idiot" etc. be left out. This sort of criticism isn't constructive but that being said, not everyone is as diplomatic as I so I won't say you need to stop it. Just a few of you could be more diplomatic IF you want a higher chance of Benji taking the criticism positively.

I would ask Benji to look past those comments and past rivalries with other teams and players and instead really take on-board some of the criticism. Don't necessarily fix everything at once to morph yourself into Tastosis: the culmination of 20 years in eSports and 2 professional gamers. That isn't realistic. But the main things to change is really quite small and subtle attitude changes and small adjustments to honestly try to present yourself and your ideas in a better manner.

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	ToRSmotPokingFish:	PiG ever the wise one :p
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