[Delraich]

I bought a new mouse (Deathadder) and mouse pad (control edition of Razer) recently which inspired me to start experimenting with my mouse sensitivity settings a bit more. Before I had a $4 dell mouse and used my wooden desk as the surface. My mouse is now set at 100% sensitivity and on SC I decided to try out 85%. Well... this totally didn't work for me: I kept overshooting everything, it took me ages to click on a probe and when I got nervous or needed to deal with an emergency and my mouse slipped a bit the screen ended up scrolling away really really fast.

I have 2 questions:

• I realize that the theory is to minimize your hand movements, but I was wondering if there is a point when it is just toooo sensitive to be practical. What sensitivity settings are you using?
  
• Before my whole hand rested on the mouse and I slid it around my desk. In order to try and not over shoot everything and try and stabilize the situation, I have started experimenting with new ways to use my mouse like planting the heel of my hand on the desk and using the front of my hand to move around - is this correct?

[crAzerk]

I realize that the theory is to minimize your hand movements

Really? Is this really the theory?

I'm no biologist (or whoever studies physiological movements) but it seems to be more difficult to make minute movements than slightly larger movements.
Thus I don't think you should be really pushing to minimize the distance travelled (of your mouse).

I think a good test to see whether it's sensitive enough is to hold your hand on your mouse, perpendicular to your body, imagine a 30 degree arc in front of your mouse. Turn your hand so you moved the mouse to the leftmost end of this arc, and position your on-screen cursor to be on the left of the screen. Now move your hand to the rightmost end of this arc (without 'stretching' your wrist too much). If your cursor reaches the right of the screen, it should be ideal.

The above is based on my logical reasoning, perhaps it's different for competitive FPS and stuff. But I think ultimately you need to find something you're comfortable with.


And I move it with the base of my palm (or the heel as you call it) on the desk, it seems the most stable way and you have good control over the movement of the mouse. I never knew there were other ways! lol!

[ToRMaverick]

Day(9) has done a show on mouse (mice) and grips etc..... check it out. May help...may not?

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TADivinity:

But theyre always so long!

[xGKingdelete]

i recently got deathadder 3500 for christmas

i set it on 1800dpi and kept everything else on default (so sensitivity is 6). from here i think you should just change the ingame sensitivity until it works for you. some people like sensitivity really high, some like it low, it's just personal preference. change it to something you're comfortable with.

i also do the plant-heel-of-hand-on-mousepad and move around like that. i think it's just a lot easier this way for mice shaped like this.

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TADivinity:

Need to spread rep. And we have the same settings. Yay!

[Delraich]

Originally Posted by delete12

i recently got deathadder 3500 for christmas

i set it on 1800dpi and kept everything else on default (so sensitivity is 6). from here i think you should just change the ingame sensitivity until it works for you. some people like sensitivity really high, some like it low, it's just personal preference. change it to something you're comfortable with.

i also do the plant-heel-of-hand-on-mousepad and move around like that. i think it's just a lot easier this way for mice shaped like this.

Hehe, OK cool. Mine was set at sensitivity 10 for some reason. I had also increased the dpi to 3500 and the polling rate to 1000Hz. Not sure what these settings do or how they affect sensitivity, but I figured bigger is better so I cranked it up! I've dropped the sensitivity down to 6 now like you suggested and will play around with the SC settings next.

Yeah, my hand and mouse used to move around the desk (maybe 15-20cm) from the starting point) because before it took usually 1 and sometimes 2 big sweeps to get around the screen - sometimes involving picking up the mouse and putting it back down in the middle again. So keeping the mouse in one place on the desk is taking some getting used to.

[iVnStinger]

I go mouse acceleration off, 1200 dpi on my Razer mouse. ANd like 60-80 sens ingame. I feel it is pretty good and accurate, but it might take some getting use to for you.

[TADivinity]

Quick fun fact, just make sure your SC2 sensitivity isnt a multiple of 5 (I.e. 20 / 55 / 75).

There are pages of explanation, just know that its bad and dont worry about asking why

(A lot of people probs know this, but just incase )

[MazEi]

dpi is the sensitivity that matters. The rest you just use defaults. I use 1800 dpi since I've played with 1600-2000 dpi as far as I can remember when I started playing with gaming mice. Its important to find one that's comfortable for you and that's all. I know people using 500dpi as well as people using 2500dpi.

Also remember to turn off the windows mouse acceleration/mouse precision thing since it messes up the mouse a bit. And keep the windows mouse sensitivity at default.

[EveTigey]

I have a death adder 3500 and i play with a really sensitive mouse. My razer sensitivity is set to 10 and my sensitivity in game is also 83%. My hand doesnt really move at all it just pivots which is really comfortable for me. All my friends however wen they try to play on my computer find the sensitivity unplayable lol.

[Firehawk]

Currently using the Mamba 4G at 1000 DPI. Works wonders for me.

[ToRMaverick]

My Razer Imperator goes up to 6400 dpi

I have the 5 custom settings set between 1400 - 1800 in 100 dpi increments. This gives me good on the fly control when needed.

I set it to 6400 dpi with default settings in windows and it was unusable. It took like 20mm of mouse movement for the cursor to go all the way accross the screen... SO SENSITIVE!

Razer for the win!

[JaFF]

As far as possible, try to set your SC2 mouse sensitivity settings between (including) 51% and 54%. This is equivalent to the 6/11 windows mouse sensitivity setting which is ideal. Having it any higher than that will result in your cursor skipping pixels which is bad for your accuracy. With the sensitivity set between 51-54%, adjust your DPI to a level you are comfortable with. And switch off mouse acceleration if death adder has that option.

If you want to know more, there's a TL thread about it. You can look it up.

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Antel0pe:

Yup I saw that thread too, seemed legit

[Sensator]

I use a Razer Deathadder

Windows: 10
Deathadder: 3

For RTS games I will put my sensitivity up a little higher, nothing too high but enough so that I can quickly move the camera around. In FPS games I put my sensitivity extremely low however, which is what most pros do, because the lower the sensitivity the more control you have.

Just do whatever you're comfortable with, but I don't recommend going anything ridiculously high.

[Paroxysm]

Im curious as to how you guys changed the settings for your deathadder? haha

[xGKingdelete]

Originally Posted by Paroxysm

Im curious as to how you guys changed the settings for your deathadder? haha

download the driver @ http://www.razersupport.com/

under "drivers, firmware and manuals downloads", and navigate your way to the deathadder

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Paroxysm:

helpful post :)

[Paroxysm]

Thank you very much kind sir

[MazEi]

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...opic_id=165625

Basically the gist of it is that you should change the settings for the mouse, the DPI, and leave the windows settings alone and turn off the sensitivity setting in SC2 or set it to 54% ish.

[KAshadowz]

I remember reading somewhere that optimally you want to have a 1 to 1 ratio of physical mouse movement to how far it moves on the screen.

On a side note, how's the deathadder? I'm thinking of getting one soon

edit: thats the thread I read, the one mazei linked

[x5_Potter]

I use my Roccat Kone[+] at 1600 DPI and can go up to 6000, but that's too fast for me :P

[iVnStinger]

Originally Posted by VB_Potthead

I use my Roccat Kone[+] at 1600 DPI and can go up to 6000, but that's too fast for me :P

I changed to this and found it is even easier for me!

[Delraich]

Originally Posted by KAshadowz

On a side note, how's the deathadder? I'm thinking of getting one soon

It's actually damn nice! I have fiddled with the settings but I still need to tweak it a bit more based on the recent comments, but once you get the sensitivity right... it feels awesome. It's a lot heavier than my dell mouse (which is good because it sits on the mouse pad nice and solidly) and feels bigger (and fills your hand very well) and much more sturdy/ well made. I didn't need it as such, but each time I use it I get a smile on my face.

[Trader]

Playing with a razer abyssus on highest dpi, really awesome

[KAshadowz]

Thanks!
hmm I've heard enough good reviews on it
I think I will get a deathadder

[Malik]

hmm i have an imperator and i only use 400 dpi it tends to make me move my hand alot more to move around scrolling and such but allows for more specific micro imo ass if u move it a little bit too far or less then what u intended then u are pretty much in the same area reducing the posibility of mistakes.

[Rage]

in my personal view, the best sensitivity settings are 6/11 windows sensitivity, 1800dpi, and 51-57% ingame sensitivity. This gives a good balance between big movements by moving the mouse a lot, and being able to be precise. Making precise miniscule movements is much more difficult than larger ones.

If your sensitivity is too high, the difference between clicking on your own probe or the zealot thats winding its way between those probes can be as little as a fraction of a millimetre, and that is just not practical.

I would urge everyone to give the above settings a solid week before dismissing them. I used to play on those settings but at 3500dpi, and I had a lot of trouble with precision, but once I reduced it and gave some time to get used to it, my precision got a hell of a lot better.

[Loach]

Daily #252 is what I tell everybody to watch, regardless of skill level - it's just basics that are overlooked and taken for granted - Day[9] never ceases to amaze me.

Deathadder is nice - all razer products are good IMO

I personally use a Naga MMORPG (I used to play wow) but don't use the thumb buttons.. I also have the control edition of the Razer mouse pad.

That being said, I don't think that sensitivity should be set at an amount and people should try to play with that sensitivity. If you can do things quickly and accurately with a lower sensitivity then I don't see the problem, when u start to get to higher play and u feel ur mouse is slow. turn up the sensitivity!

[Rage]

Low sensitivity helps accuracy. High sensitivity helps speed.

Its up to everyone to find the balance between speed and accuracy that gives you the best of both.

[Malik]

its kinda funny how people have mice (myself included in this ^^) that can go up to ridiculous levels but we rarely increase it to more than 50% of its actual capability.

[TABjornbrandr]

My mouse is set to 100hz polling rate with 3400 dpi; it's quite fast and allows for very quick movement in starcraft.
It took a while to get used to, but now that I am used to it, using a slower mouse is extremely frustrating.

[Goldie]

i used to have a razer deathadder, then moved to a impreator. but then moved back because of tracking problems.

[TCPLemminks]

Anyone wanna be nice enough to explain to me about the dpi and how one can change it?

[Delraich]

Not sure how to change the windows setting, but you need to install the driver from the razer website and then you just open it up and you can see the following menu which lets you tweak stuff.

[HEN_iP]

I have the most recent Razer DeathAdder and play @ 3500DPI (max) and 1000Hz on the polling rate my sensitivity however is rather low due to needing to be more accurate for RTS'. The DPI and Polling rate setting I also carry over to FPS' but increase sensitivity for twitch movement.

It's just really all about finding whatever is comfortable for you while still being speedy.

[ProfOak]

I have had some problems with my mouse that I think are because i play on absolutely max sensitivity

[Rythos]

There is also a liquipedia article that explains things pretty well - http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Mouse_settings

I think setting the dpi really comes down to personal preference. Perhaps if you're running below 1800 you might be handicapping yourself a bit, but I think when it comes to 1800 vs 3500 vs beyond it's a matter of finding what works for you. The majority of players seem to run 3500+, but I also know of GM level players who like 1800 better to maximize their accuracy.

Regarding windows sensitivity vs SC2 settings - yes they are independent, but it is a good idea to match them so that your mouse movement is consistent in and out of the game. This will help you get used to your settings faster (and as many have said already, turn that damned acceleration off!).

I went from an 800 dpi mouse to a deathadder and just gradually stepped things up. I ran with 1800 for a couple of weeks then bumped up to 3500 and I've been sitting there ever since. Things will always feel crazy at first when you make a big change to your settings like that, just make sure you give yourself some time to get used to it before deciding the settings aren't right for you.

glgl

[gleefulpixie]

I don't think you need to have the highest sensitivity to play well or fast, its almost akin to e-peen when you brag about how high your dpi is, I think if it gets the job done, keep it at that level.

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Yonge:

I keep my mouse sensitivity as low as my emo sensitivity...coz I'm a man

[Rythos]

You don't need a keyboard to play starcraft either. If you're happy clicking, good for you.