[iM tgun]

Enough Chatter

Seriously guys. Only post if it's relevant to discussing new replays or bringing new evidence forward. I don't give a damn about how you feel about WhiteLuxury -- he's a confirmed hacker. Unless you're telling us an alternate account of his, don't post about him. Also, please back your posts up with evidence. Don't just say "I think xyz is a hacker". That's not cool and won't be tolerated, as it's pretty much defamation.

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	Maynarde:	Seconded
	Seffy:	Thirded.
	Cordance:	Motion carried
	nirvAnA:	im late to the party but i brought beer

[aLtShortizz]

Idk if whiteluxury is still playing on onsDotaking but when i played against onsdotaking today, he has some seriously shady moves.

Here i did a 14 14 into ling bane pressure on TDA. We were cross position so no chance of knowing whether each other hatch first or wadeva. He went 15 hatch pool into pure speedlings + 3 spines without seeing pretty much anything.

http://www.sc2sea.com/replays.php?do=viewreplay&id=2110

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	scorpiom56:	Here's the proof. Remeber this is aftter he said he changed is password!
	SFTAElessar:	dotaking doesn't let that loser hack on his account anymore!! He is a mate of mine and said he changed all his security!

[Igaeme]

Just another replay of whiteluxury maphacking in 2s. Watch around 2-3 mins. The initial scouting probe got stuck so he had no vision. Camera looked at my base through fog twice, then stopped at my 11 11 proxy rax at 2:37. in which he sends 2 probes straight.

http://drop.sc/282737

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	Synizta:	We already know he's map hacking, i don't really think more replays of that particularly guy is nessasery
	mGGNemesis:	Was in party with another in 2s? Or was it random teams?
	DotAKinG:	that's random 2s team because he does random 2s quite a bit he's trying to get that to masters

[calcifer19]

just want to say something

ons never tolerate hacking we banned onJcaped and he never play sea again. For onsDotaking he is not official ons member he changed name by himself without permission, please don't think all ons is hacker
it just not cool.

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	SFTAElessar:	Dotaking is a good guy and doesnt hack for the 1 millionth time!!! omg
	SLCN.NXZ:	<3 calcifer

[nirvAnA]

We are looking for someone suitable to officially helm the map hacking thread.

Nemo and crAzerk have done a fab job but they do not have the time anymore.

Seekers of justice PM me with the reason why you would be suitable for this position.

[iM MaFia]

PropheT obvious maphacking / prod tab hacking http://drop.sc/282444

[KJH]

whiteluxury plays on another ID called "dubsm" The shit he says is exactly the same " do u think it was hacks that won me that game?" and kept typing #swag #swag #whiteluxury during the game

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	Zealo:	he also has a barcode ive played him on
	syfSoundwave:	Whiteluxury...the next Zanooku?
	iM tgun:	Don't give him the time of day, just block him and move on.
	DotAKinG:	he has access to Musihada, onsNovatech, ||||||||||, Nadeska, used to have access to my account until I found out he hack
	SFTAElessar:	I hope he comes to a pan ;)

[FvRphoneheha]

@Shortizz I don't feel that's conclusive proof of maphack. Sure the number of spines was suss. However he's playing on TDA going hatch first in ZvZ; a super defensive opening isn't proof I'd say. Would be willing to give him the benefit of doubt (bolstered partly by the fact that he lost I'll admit).

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	Zealo:	exactly my thoughts.
	scorpiom56:	Srsly ons guy is a plat scrub who went from gold to gm in 1 day. This guy trash talks soo much as if the got gm byhimse

[SFTAElessar]

Nadeska is letting Whiteluxury smurf on his account using all the hacks known to man!!!! pleaseeeeee send blizzzard complaints

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Zealo:

replays please?

[RuineD]

stop feeding whiteluxury's ego, it's all he wants. it's obvious he's a hacker, the general consensus suggests so. all he wants is the attention, you're all just feeding the troll.

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	syfSoundwave:	Spreading awareness of his alternate accounts is good though.
	SFTAElessar:	Which is what i am doing
	calcifer19:	Ruined lol is the biggest Troll before other people know him!

[cupnoodle]

Hi SC2Sea,

I used to think these guys were great players on SEA. They used to decimate me in team games and were always on top of the charts.

However, I'm almost convinced these guys are map-hacking now, at least some of the members. What do you guys make of it?

http://www.2shared.com/file/EwS31S0m/HgZMaphacking.html

1:57 - Probe immediately sent to my natural. I suppose it could be a coincidence.
6:11 - Screen hovers over fog, removing fog reveals my lings
9:34 - Anticipates Nydus (Unscouted)
14:45 - Anticipates Muta (Unscouted)
15:38 - Screen hovers over my army at Zel-naga tower
16:27 - Screen hovers over my army at 3rd expo
20:33 - Screen hovers over my army at Zel-naga tower
21:00 - Drop at my un-scouted 3rd expo
25:10 - Drop at my un-scouted 4th expo
Keeping in mind at this point, my base remains completely unscouted

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	ROCCAT_Savior:	Soundwave linked him here from TL so new account isnt just for trolls etc
	Zealo:	include names of accused in post to make searching easy please
	mGGAequitas:	Too many "download" buttons - didn't download

[OSPixel]

Name: onsDotAKing


Hell maybe i dont know whats really going on when i play sc2, but i was shown a new build tonight against unscouted proxy mauraders.

1) looks typical 1 rax FE exept opts to build a bunker at the natural before expanding.
2) for lols i wanted to see what happened when i pulled all my scvs and attacked. as my scvs were moving across the map two more bunkers went down.

either im really far behind on what you do to counter proxy maurader (without scouting anything) or something is fishy here.

http://www.sc2sea.com/replays.php?do=viewreplay&id=2117

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	Zealo:	name of suspect in post please
	SFTAElessar:	dotaking is not a hacker for the 10th million time, leave the guy alone, ur desperate to hate him coz of white luxury

[DotAKinG]

Please...get over it!!! Learn to take a loss fair and square. A GLHF would be a polite way to start a game, and A GG WP would be a polite way to end a game. I have cleared this up a long time ago and this will be the last time I post about accusations without valid evidence. Here is the thread I posted a while back, just refer to that.

And btw Qwerty 1 rax expand followed up by bunker is a normal build order of Terran. I thought you would know that being a Terran player yourself.

Originally Posted by DotAKinG

Hi all, this is onsDotAKing posting a reply to the threads above. I am unaware of all the events that has happened above and I must say I am disgusted. I have regret allowing Whiteluxury to access my account and abuse it in such a manner. Originally the plan was for him to practice his off-race (Zerg) with the deal that he plays team games with me to help me level up my random team 3s and 4s. He also mentioned about points trading to help him achieve rank 1 Grandmaster level, but has not used my account for such purposes as much.
To all who have been victims of this, I sincerely apologize for what has happened. I have now changed the password for my account and can reassure you that there will be no further smurfs occurring on my account.

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	SFTAElessar:	there you go, dotaking doesnt hack so stop blaming him for ur losses
	mungi91:	The fact that you allowed WL to use your account means that your account/name is tainted imho.
	scorpiom56:	lol ur a fkin scrub that wanted gm so badly now u claim u didnt know nything abt it rofl

[ToRSpookToR]

I had a look see at the replay
initial thoughts dotaking is the biggest spastic i have ever seen play lol, how does someone average 200 apm yet floats 800 minerals at 8 mins anyway.

3.23 dotaking looks at qwertys base
3.30 what in the balls **** bunker before cc without scouting and its proxy marauders very sus but idk is mechanical skill level could match that decision i guess.
4.58 again what the balls another bunker ???? just as scvs come out again sus but you cant really prove anything, for those that don't know this is not a common follow up usually its banshee hellion play expand but never scv pull so the bunker just happens to hard counter the most unlikely thing seems sus.
5.15 WHAT THE **** 2 MARAUDERS CANCEL ******* GAS GET ANOTHER BUNKER usually when i vs this build people still try to bunker my bunker as marauders out range marines certainly not does it warrant cancelling gas and building another bunker sus but again mechanics may explain decision making.
AGAIN 200 APM AND 1400 MINERALS AND ABOUT TO BE SUPPLY BLOCKED SO MECHANICS MAY EXPLAIN.
so yeah sus cant prove anything for sure i was a bit harsh but thats because i dont like dotaking.

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	SanG:	LOL bunker before CC without scouting. Hacker 100%
	aLtShortizz:	Exactly, and hes floating 1400 mins becos hes constantly looking and got ''faked'' by qwerty like he said.
	scorpiom56:	LOL onsdotaking confirmed hacker

[FaDeBadger]

Originally Posted by DotAKinG

TheYoungOne: there you go, dotaking doesnt hack so stop blaming him for ur losses

Give it a rest dude, him saying he isn't a hacker and you saying he doesn't hack means jack shit. If people think he hacks, keep posting replays. Eventually it will get figured out.

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scorpiom56:

exactly

[SFTAElessar]

but i know he doesnt hack coz i watch him play and he is a good player, if there is sufficient evidence pointing towards that he does indeed hack then by all means, he is a hacker, but at the moment i dont see sufficient evidence and besides, if u hack ur a low life piece of trash and dotaking is definately not that!

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scorpiom56:

shut the f up u dumb kid. ur even worse trying to cover him up. how can u remain so oblivious?

[aLtShortizz]

Originally Posted by TheYoungOne

but i know he doesnt hack coz i watch him play and he is a good player, if there is sufficient evidence pointing towards that he does indeed hack then by all means, he is a hacker, but at the moment i dont see sufficient evidence and besides, if u hack ur a low life piece of trash and dotaking is definately not that!

Seriously u are the most annoying person ive seen post on this forum, get your head out of ur ass already. U dont need to spam every single post that suggests WITH replay and reasons why dotaking is a hacker. Everytime someone post something about him, i see u defending almost immediately, it almost feels like you are his 2nd account or something.

The replays posted were legit accusations, whether they decide if hes a hacker or not depends on the community which is the farking purpose of posting the replays. So stop your OMG hes not a hacker and actualy analyse the farking replays and explain why.

Also, hes not even close to being a good player or maybe thats how bad SEA GMs are these days. His micro and macro is so farking bad its unbelievable that hes even in GM. Everytime i play him, he would know which build / all-in im doing and i would still beat him cos i know he cant even do simple micro/multitask.

Again, get your head outta your or even HIS ass already.

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	TACeeSerps:	Wouldn't have been as harsh, but 100% agree
	calcifer19:	lol like a booss
	Pox:	well said
	Neoneoz:	well played
	asdfSchnitzel:	well played sir
	mGGAequitas:	Would have been a lot more harsh, but 100% agree
	x5.Arrival:	10/10
	RuineD:	talk shit get hit m9
	LaughingMan:	gg wp
	ToRSpookToR:	watch the replay id say he was being nice about his skill lol
	nirvAnA:	shortizz my homie

[syfChase]

If it helps in any case I played DotaKing today on ladder and I didn't notice any signs of hacks, even as I went over the replay. I'm not saying that he isn't a hacker by stating this as I know his play is very suspicious in the replays posted in this thread, just providing my experience against him on ladder. As mungi91 commented before, since he let WhiteLuxury on his account in the first place I feel that his account now tainted which is quite unfortunate. But still his activity in some replays, especially Qwerty's is very suspicious.

Shortizz is right TheYoungOne, your posts aren't exactly helpful to this cause, you need more weight than just your word to provide conclusive evidence that DotaKing is clean, repeating the same thing over and over just comes off as obnoxious.

Originally Posted by aLtShortizz

Also, hes not even close to being a good player or maybe thats how bad SEA GMs are these days. His micro and macro is so farking bad its unbelievable that hes even in GM.

Although I agree with most of your post, this comes of as quite an unnecessary and harsh comment

Edit: @Shortizz, he let WhiteLuxury ladder on his account which is the reason he achieved GM, I do agree that his mechanics do seem weaker than most GM's.

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	aLtShortizz:	What im trying to see is that he is clearly not GM level, unless all the GMs on sea are playing as bad as he is these dy
	mGGAequitas:	coz he is a gold player
	SFTAElessar:	thanks for being polite about, i understand, and all i can say is, i am wrong
	mGGNemesis:	+1 chase :)

[Fairyking]

This thread is derailing too much............

[iM tgun]

Guys, last bloody chance. If you're not providing evidence (saying "Hey this guy doesn't hack i'm his friend" doesn't count..), you're getting infracted. Don't respond to them, don't talk, just keep this thread clean. Please.

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	asdfSchnitzel:	Thank you tgun <3
	Zealo:	♥