[porkchop]

this is a big hit not only to the starcraftPH community but also to AZK, i hope this doesnt happen again, ( im a filipino hopefully the next IPL or MLG goes to the highest bidder in SEA, no bullshit pls... SC2 is awesome, and this makes me sad... not to mention the IPL stream was a joke...

GG to u yjy... i feel for u man....

[zendex]

Only the upper management has some "issues". Feel bad for the good AZK people.

[PiG]

Originally Posted by zendex

Only the upper management has some "issues". Feel bad for the good AZK people.

Unfortunately for these good members who I'm sure are nice people, the upper management controls the organisation and so is responsible for the direction they take. In this case I think its clear its not the right direction. Some of these guys may be nice blokes, but if I had Zanooku as a teammate I would break contract if I had to in order to leave that team. Being associated with the management and some of the players they have chosen is appalling and any player worth his salt should be distancing himself from them. Yeah its my opinion and im really angry but I think this event needs no sugarcoating. What are the AZK members really getting out of membership in this team? If I were them I'd be out fast... really fast.

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[ZraF]

Originally Posted by PiG

Unfortunately for these good members who I'm sure are nice people, the upper management controls the organisation and so is responsible for the direction they take. In this case I think its clear its not the right direction. Some of these guys may be nice blokes, but if I had Zanooku as a teammate I would break contract if I had to in order to leave that team. Being associated with the management and some of the players they have chosen is appalling and any player worth his salt should be distancing himself from them. Yeah its my opinion and im really angry but I think this event needs no sugarcoating. What are the AZK members really getting out of membership in this team? If I were them I'd be out fast... really fast.

If I'm not mistaken it was mentioned on the venue that Zanooku himself was one of the organizers. A little bit of a conflict of interest IMO, considering he got by far the easiest group.

[freaky_beeky]

This is extremely disappointing to hear, not just for Yoon but for SEA E-Sports scene overall. I eagerly look upon e-sports in the SEA community, especially the SC2 scene and am shocked at how this unfolded. With such big names at the event attracting the eyes of the international community upon us, for “us” to then deliver such a substandard, deceptive and disorganised event will no doubt leave a mark. I really feel for Dox and others who participated in the event, having spent real effort to have been rewarded like this. I hope as a result of this debacle we see the end of tournaments such as this in SEA and make way for a huge contrast of quality in the future, such that we can get some real sponsorship and growth of the scene.

[dazaris]

Stupid move on AZK's part to be honest. They've acted a bit dodgy in the past, but they've now destroyed any credibility they had at all. Can't see any organizations or players being willing to do business with them in the future with the current management.

[Malik]

so is ign paying for the flight or are they just provideing good wishes and rainbows?

[dazaris]

Originally Posted by Malik

so is ign paying for the flight or are they just provideing good wishes and rainbows?

IGN wasn't involved directly with the tournament, they were just supporting it and providing a streaming channel.

Witchdoc (aka Gus) claimed that he was waiting on money from IGN, a claim they have denied:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...opic_id=283544

[Gen_Syntax]

i appreciate you guys for not generalizing the filipinos for the lack of professionalism shown by azk. As a filipino, I'm really disappointed, I hope this serves as a reminder to all clans/groups.

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[Dox]

My detailed recollection can be found here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/view...opic_id=283600

I don't know how many people are aware of this, but it takes A LOT for me to speak negatively about an event. I even stood up for WCG when it was being torn to shreds over at CyberGamer.

This is the first time I've ever felt that it has become truly necessary to highlight the negatives.

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[Qibla]

Wow, this is appalling! Really impressed with the way YoonYJ has handled this though. He has earned some mega kudo's, on top of the massive pile he already had for being such a boss :P

Gus should really be sued, not only for the cost of the ticket, but also for compensation for potential tournament winnings for Yoon. He needs to be made an example of so that this kind of thing can't happen again.

Edit: So IGN has posted on TL that they sent all moneys on time and Gus wasn't waiting on anything. Thanks to IGN for the clarification.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...opic_id=283544

[Maynarde]

Broken contract = reprocussion? This is truly disgusting, and I want to see the people responsible burn for it in court at least and leave our community.

[Benji]

Originally Posted by Maynarde

Broken contract = reprocussion? This is truly disgusting, and I want to see the people responsible burn for it in court at least and gtfo of our community.

Not worth taking it to court, having to deal with the Aus and Phil law systems would be a nightmare and not worth the ~$1000

[Unstable]

Originally Posted by xGKingBenji

Not worth taking it to court, having to deal with the Aus and Phil law systems would be a nightmare and not worth the ~$1000

99.9% of the time, any contract that will be able to be enforced will ONLY come from lawyers that cost well over the 2k an hour range. Due to the different legal systems from both countries and their intricacies. It is well known among most of the Pro teams and organisations in SC2 that they are simply not useful at all for their cost.

[Malik]

Originally Posted by xGKingBenji

Not worth taking it to court, having to deal with the Aus and Phil law systems would be a nightmare and not worth the ~$1000

wouldnt u just be dealing with the contract law of the nation that the contracts were signed under rather than both.

[crAzerk]

This is just saddening to read just when I wake up Hope they do suffer some severe repercussions for the crap they have done.
Also read Dox's blog on TL, nice plug at the end hopefully that gets us more players and Dox Cup 2 will be great!

[x5.Revenant]

Mad Props to YYJ for handling this so well. I found it rather suspicious that they were promising stuff around like money meant nothing to them too. :/

[Psychatog]

I don't know how you manage to stay calm after wasting a lot of your time and getting a lot of shit from Gus. Props to you.

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[Highlander]

For anyone wanting the reddit page:

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/co..._ppsl_exposed/

[inFeZa]

Very sad to hear this, I really am dissapointed in the eSports community, especially for an event of this calibre.
Hope everything gets sorted, free seed for YoonYJ????