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**nirvAnA** · Sat, 8th-Oct-2011, 8:40 AM

SEAFIGHT #1 PiG vs Azz

What: $100 "Grudge Match"
Date: Next Next Sunday, 23th October 1PM

SGT, 4PM

AEST (Daylight Savings is back!)
Stream: http://www.twitch.tv/benjisc2 (shot gunned 10 mins after i posted this haha)
Format: Bo5, Based on WCG Map Pools with Vetoes

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In other news, Dox has just announced all the IGL Pro League 4 Australia Qualifiers Groups - Groups A-F can be viewed in the tournament section so check them out now!

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	nGenLight:	Thanks bryaN
	nGenLight:	Thanks bryaN

**Apth** · Sat, 8th-Oct-2011, 9:02 AM

No really though, I'd be keen to bet forum reputation on this. Especially if there's going to be a SEAFIGHT #2 etc.

**nirvAnA** · Sat, 8th-Oct-2011, 9:08 AM

Will probably bring back SEABET for this haha

syfMiley · Sat, 8th-Oct-2011, 10:49 AM

This has got to be a regular thing.

**Dox** · Sat, 8th-Oct-2011, 11:20 AM

This is happening DURING the WCG Australia Grand FInals?

syfMiley · Sat, 8th-Oct-2011, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Dox

This is happening DURING the WCG Australia Grand FInals?

Isn't the finals on the Saturday?

**Dox** · Sat, 8th-Oct-2011, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TAMiLes

Isn't the finals on the Saturday?

All weekend!

**nirvAnA** · Sat, 8th-Oct-2011, 11:46 AM

Opps thanks for the headsup, will have to reschedule it then

TAavanar · Sat, 8th-Oct-2011, 12:12 PM

I hope pig wins to make Azz look stupid

syfMiley · Sat, 8th-Oct-2011, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TAavanar

I hope pig wins to make Azz look stupid

Big words from a big man.

dippa · Sat, 8th-Oct-2011, 1:16 PM

just by looking at the photos you can tell that pig is gonna win regardless of the outcome lol

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	TAavanar:	LOL
	TAriiChard:	ROFL!!!
	nirvAnA:	not nice
	FvRsolis:	rofl!
	iM tgun:	I bm, everyone spazzes. You bm, people clap like retarded seals.
	FaDeBadger:	Completely agree
	TcaTX:	LMAO

frequency · Sat, 8th-Oct-2011, 1:47 PM

You Tube

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	Apth:	Awww yeah.
	Maynarde:	**** yeah
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mGGDaedalus · Sat, 8th-Oct-2011, 2:10 PM

Hmm gonna be an interesting series. I'm curious if Azz has been playing much lately though, I thought he was pretty inactive for a while and pig's definitely no slouch. TO WAR!

**Maynarde** · Sat, 8th-Oct-2011, 2:28 PM

This is awesome. I got money on PiG to roll this nerd.

[TA]LoSt · Sat, 8th-Oct-2011, 5:39 PM

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Originally Posted by [TA]LoSt

Wow, I can't believe I missed this.

I'm in.

If we're allowed to, TA dream team will cast this (alongside Benji if need be). Is it Wednesday or Sunday? If it's Sunday I really hope I don't have work, although I can probably just get home for the start.

TA cast by popular demand!

But in all seriousness, if we're allowed to we will. Otherwise this is going to be amazing to watch if you can organise a suitable time for both.

FvRsolis · Sat, 8th-Oct-2011, 6:15 PM

SOOO KEEN! ... I'm almost.. MVP KEEN!

yeyeyeyeyeye

FvRelimzkE · Sat, 8th-Oct-2011, 6:19 PM

pig will win

[TA]LoSt · Sat, 8th-Oct-2011, 6:24 PM

Seafight #2 glade vs tgun
KJH vs ZanooKu? :P

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TcaTX:

KJH VS Zanooku I would definitely love to see!

ROOT`iaguz · Sat, 8th-Oct-2011, 6:38 PM

SEAFIGHT 2 will be held at WCG next weekend, God willing.

**Apth** · Sat, 8th-Oct-2011, 7:11 PM

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Originally Posted by xGKingiaguz

SEAFIGHT 2 will be held at WCG next weekend, God willing.

FaDeBadger · Sat, 8th-Oct-2011, 8:15 PM

PiG to crush this sore loser

mGGDaedalus · Sun, 9th-Oct-2011, 7:11 AM

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Originally Posted by FaDeBadger

PiG to crush this sore loser

to be fair, I'd be pretty devo if my computer crashed in a tourney during games I was winning

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nirvAnA:

[TA]LoSt · Sun, 9th-Oct-2011, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by joshboy

to be fair, I'd be pretty devo if my computer crashed in a tourney during games I was winning

Ya, if he said something the game woulda been replayed but he didn't want to say anything because he was winning, then when he lost he couldn't go back and be like yeah well my computer crashed.

I went over and checked the computer though, it was barely playable so I don't know how he expected to keep playing and win haha I woulda just regamed

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FaDeBadger · Sun, 9th-Oct-2011, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by joshboy

to be fair, I'd be pretty devo if my computer crashed in a tourney during games I was winning

To be fair, he still acted like a little bitch. Fair enough come on the forum and bitch about the computer, but to call out and put down every other top player who managed to beat him/make it further than him is just petty and shows his true 'calibre'

mGGDaedalus · Sun, 9th-Oct-2011, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FaDeBadger

To be fair, he still acted like a little bitch. Fair enough come on the forum and bitch about the computer, but to call out and put down every other top player who managed to beat him/make it further than him is just petty and shows his true 'calibre'

Well he has the reputation to back him up at least. When sc2 released he was one of the top SEA players, rated up there in the moonglade calibre of player. I'm pretty sure he hasn't been very active for quite a while with IRL stuff, but he has the skill to be able to make statements like that.

FaDeBadger · Sun, 9th-Oct-2011, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by joshboy

Well he has the reputation to back him up at least. When sc2 released he was one of the top SEA players, rated up there in the moonglade calibre of player. I'm pretty sure he hasn't been very active for quite a while with IRL stuff, but he has the skill to be able to make statements like that.

No-one has the skill to say that. Moonglade is generally agreed to be the best player on SEA and every one of the people he called out has taken games/series off of Moonglade. It is disrespectful to guys who put a lot of hard work into the game to make a scene like that. I hope PiG crushes him in the showmatch so he can go back to forum bitching.

NvPinder · Sun, 9th-Oct-2011, 1:03 PM

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Originally Posted by joshboy

Well he has the reputation to back him up at least. When sc2 released he was one of the top SEA players, rated up there in the moonglade calibre of player. I'm pretty sure he hasn't been very active for quite a while with IRL stuff, but he has the skill to be able to make statements like that.

First, the fact is he was always all talk/ladder and never actually got even REMOTELY close to the level of success glade, or any of the players he called out... Seriously, not even close.

Also, i don't care how skillful you are (read: idra), you can't go around calling every player that beats you worse than you and not get laughed at for being an immature idiot.

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FaDeBadger:

Said it better than I ever could

**nirvAnA** · Sat, 8th-Oct-2011, 10:22 PM

btw slots for SEA fight #2 are up for grabs.

Throw down your gauntlet / challenge in this thread and name your opponent.

Your "collateral" is fixed at $50 for now and format will be Bo5 on well picked maps + vetoes.

ETL.Santi · Sun, 9th-Oct-2011, 2:37 AM

I challenge deL to a SEA fight.

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TAEdgE:

**TAEdgE** · Sun, 9th-Oct-2011, 5:18 AM

looking for Dox vs Benji!

NvPinder · Sun, 9th-Oct-2011, 7:44 AM

IMO allow people to nominate people with their own money for SEA fights...

EG: (just an example), $50 on TAMiLes vs anyone in SEA who accepts, and anyone can accept, i put the money up for miles, and the other player (or a player betting on the other player) puts their $50, not just the personal players money. (As on obvious rule, you must check with the player you're betting on first, and if at any point you back out of the bet, you get a custom word under your name "pussy" or something of the like, like how i have winning because I'm awesome)

This would make these much more popular imo :P.

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TAminimat:

syfMiley · Sun, 9th-Oct-2011, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TAJPMoney

IMO allow people to nominate people with their own money for SEA fights...

EG: (just an example), $50 on TAMiLes vs anyone in SEA who accepts, and anyone can accept, i put the money up for miles, and the other player (or a player betting on the other player) puts their $50, not just the personal players money. (As on obvious rule, you must check with the player you're betting on first, and if at any point you back out of the bet, you get a custom word under your name "pussy" or something of the like, like how i have winning because I'm awesome)

This would make these much more popular imo :P.

I see, so i'm some sort of go-go ho-oh hoochie coochie dancer for your entertainment now.
Might as well put on a show then ;]

mGGDaedalus · Sun, 9th-Oct-2011, 1:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TAMiLes

I see, so i'm some sort of go-go ho-oh hoochie coochie dancer for your entertainment now.
Might as well put on a show then ;]

dance, puppet

cRSenSei · Sun, 9th-Oct-2011, 9:58 AM

Me vs nirvAna ..

cRSenSei · Sun, 9th-Oct-2011, 4:42 PM

So Azz called me over to have a play around on his computer after his first game with jimdiddy finished and his starcraft was lagging really bad and the sound was also messing up, was like in super slow-mode. Anywho he believed he was ahead that game until the computer problem occured and then he went on to win game 2, so he is upset looking back on it feeling that he should have won 2-0, I can understand that completely I would be pissed off too. But to come on here and make a huge post about how you were the best at the event by far and nobody was even close to your level of play and challenging people to prove this, is just ******* retarded bro cmon.

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TAEdgE:

i wanted to rep a post to feel important

Meatex · Sun, 9th-Oct-2011, 10:45 PM

I think most people can understand the frustration of having your computer chuck a fit on you during an important moment. Whether gaming, uni assignment or sexy time with your gf over skype :P

I do object to Azz's choice of words but how can you support and cheer for MC who shows even less respect to his opponents and even trumps Idra in terms of arrogance and then turn around and bash Azz.

So he expressed his confidence a little too aggressively but if you were confident but then had to deal with computer problems you would understandably be pissed off no? So I say let his frustration fueled presumptuous attitude slide this time and settle things on BNET

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	iM tgun:
	nirvAnA:	well said, let battle.net settle it!! lol@ sexy time
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NvPinder · Mon, 10th-Oct-2011, 6:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Meatex

I think most people can understand the frustration of having your computer chuck a fit on you during an important moment. Whether gaming, uni assignment or sexy time with your gf over skype :P

I do object to Azz's choice of words but how can you support and cheer for MC who shows even less respect to his opponents and even trumps Idra in terms of arrogance and then turn around and bash Azz.

So he expressed his confidence a little too aggressively but if you were confident but then had to deal with computer problems you would understandably be pissed off no? So I say let his frustration fueled presumptuous attitude slide this time and settle things on BNET

I've never seen MC lose a tournament, turn around, and call every other player that placed higher than him horrible and challenge them to grudge matches because his ego is hurt so badly he cant stand the thought of people thinking the other players are better than him...

Idra, on the otherhand, has done very similar things, hence why i used him as an example of a dickhead.

edit: Just for clarification, a bit of smack talk before a tournament about how you're going to beat people or calling FRIENDS of yours 'bad'/'horrible' in a good mannered/friendly way i don't have a problem with, azz, after losing the tournament, not even fresh out of anger/rage after immediately losing the game, comes on forums 2 weeks later, reads that one players opinion is that the player that beat him is better than him, and decides to write out paragraphs full of pure ******* douchery on levels I've never seen on sc2sea, which is pretty ******* difficult considering some of us write stuff on this site TRYING to be the biggest wankers possible to troll you all.

EveVendetta · Mon, 10th-Oct-2011, 12:33 AM

I usually support tosses in match ups but in this case,

GO PIG!! All the best!

**nGenLight** · Mon, 10th-Oct-2011, 12:43 AM

I have nothing against MC/Idra's BM/Arrogance on camera as it just makes it more entertaining for my viewing. Much like Azz throwing this bet thing just creates e-drama that I'm sure entertained many. That said, Azz did so on my personal blog, and called out myself and my friends. How am I supposed to support that? Also MC/Idra wouldn't need to post shit like that because they have the performances to back them up, without having to talk shit to try to prove to people how good they are.

Outside of the start of SCII where I saw Azz dominate the crap out of everyone, I see him playing only a very few games these days (such as taking me out in a series), which makes his recent accomplishment stand at nothing. Do you know what people think of people who hasn't accomplished anything but talks alot of shit? See how people felt about Tgun during NRG days. Once Tgun started to actually post some legit performances/results that his "confidence" became less obnoxious. Maybe it is just the norm of the NA SCII culture to "express confidence" through calling everybody else bad, I rather let my perfomances do the talking.

It would be totally understandable if Azz only posted the first half of what he posted, showing how angry/upset he was at the computer conditions etc - which most people here have given him sympathy for. I personally had no doubt that he was a very strong contender(stronger than me) for one of the three spots, but it looks like I hit a really big nerve when I said JimDiddy > Him in a series to trigger the second half of his post. The second half of his post just makes him look like an insecure arrogant prick who wants to prove to people hes better than everybody, despite not achieving anything or even playing recently. Even if you actually believe so, who freaking posts that and expects not to get ridiculed.

I don't exactly understand what you mean by let it slide? You mean stop talking about it? Okay I'm done.

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**iM tgun** · Mon, 10th-Oct-2011, 1:22 AM

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Originally Posted by xGKingLight

See how people felt about Tgun during NRG days. Once Tgun started to actually post some legit performances/results that his "confidence" became less obnoxious. Maybe it is just the norm of the NA SCII culture to "express confidence" through calling everybody else bad, I rather let my perfomances do the talking.

Just saying that I'm generally a confident guy, and it's not really an effort to appear confident or arrogant in any mean: I just sort of speak my mind.

Meatex · Mon, 10th-Oct-2011, 11:38 AM

MC is doing mannered smack talk he just plains looks down on all players.
I reckon if people interviewed him about losses he would say that the other guy got lucky but thats just my conjecture.

I can totally understand how Azz using Light's blog post to call out people for being terrible and having no chance but as he threw out a challenge - like I said earlier - why not just settle it on BNET.
I know exactly how light feels and more so but I also understand Azz - though again not saying I support his choice of words.

Though say you felt you were a strong contender for top 3. You felt that you would get yop place or at worst second. But then due to some computer problems you tilted so bad you lose your edge. You would be bitter about that surely so if someone where to say one opponent you would have faced was more likely to beat you (whether probably accurate or simple guessing) that would dredge up your frustration.

The lesson here should be that people should take a deep breath and re-read anything they are about to post and look it from the other point of view. But also when people have a little tantrum to let it slide by - be the bigger man or just hash it out on the alter :P
Everyone rages and often it has nothing to do with the target. I have raged at players when I have been frustrated at myself or at blizzard (damn close spawns) And have also been the subject of rage.

So i'm looking forward to some grudge matches and get things settled

Though how Azz handles any losses will be telling so lets wait and see and until then give him a reprieve

FaDeBadger · Mon, 10th-Oct-2011, 12:29 PM

It was Light's blog, he can say whatever the **** he wants in it. For Azz to come in and blow up like that is not cool. Whether MC or Idra or anyone good does it as well doesn't make it right. Will be interesting to see how he handles it when PiG beats him.

Meatex · Mon, 10th-Oct-2011, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FaDeBadger

It was Light's blog, he can say whatever the **** he wants in it. For Azz to come in and blow up like that is not cool. Whether MC or Idra or anyone good does it as well doesn't make it right. Will be interesting to see how he handles it when PiG beats him.

Badger bro, i wasn't justifying what he said by saying MC does it so its okay
I was saying people don't hark on MC when his attitude is nothing short of a god complex.
Yes its lights blog
But given the way it works here light should be expecting replies
Yes Azz flew off the handle in his reply
Yes its not cool
And definitively yes, we should let him pay the guys he bmed or humble the people who doubt him
So less talk more... sexy time :P
And then some SC2

NvJazBas · Mon, 10th-Oct-2011, 7:35 PM

SEA #2 fight. Any NZ players????if theres any......

Of course I'm joking!

Btw, Hope Azz been practicing for the past week cause he said he won't even drop a single game if he did! I don't know how though, with his standard PvZ opener of 3pylon block on the ramp not being very effective now days..

**TAEdgE** · Mon, 10th-Oct-2011, 8:02 PM

Jaz i challenge you to a bo11 for your BlizzCon spot