I swear every time a new map hits the PTR, hundreds of people spend hours analysing every tiny corner of the map to find spots where Siege Tanks can reach a Geyser. :P
You can siege the entire mineral line on Metalopolis yet how often do you see it happening?
Encouraging people (who probably haven't even played on the maps yet) to "whine" (read: not mature and logical feedback) about some "potential" issues (which probably won't even occur very frequently) isn't the right approach to balance.
I swear every time a new map hits the PTR, hundreds of people spend hours analysing every tiny corner of the map to find spots where Siege Tanks can reach a Geyser. :P
You can siege the entire mineral line on Metalopolis yet how often do you see it happening?
Encouraging people (who probably haven't even played on the maps yet) to "whine" (read: not mature and logical feedback) about some "potential" issues (which probably won't even occur very frequently) isn't the right approach to balance.
It was actually a tongue in cheek response to the amount of hatred that I found on teamliquid :P
The zerg bias there is is pretty heavy. Maybe I should remember this and re word my topic next time I post here.
And btw I don't think you can squeeze in tanks in your own mineral line to siege the opponent gold unless you drop your tanks behind the mineral line? Thanks for reminding me that I can do that.
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Early game loss = Cheese
Mid game Loss = All in
Late game Loss = Imbalance
And btw I don't think you can squeeze in tanks in your own mineral line to siege the opponent gold unless you drop your tanks behind the mineral line? Thanks for reminding me that I can do that.
I was talking about sieging the main, not the gold bases! And why would you do that when you can just use the Xel'Naga Watchtowers. :P
It's like saying there were other periods when Zerg's didn't rage. Like during the BETA when TvZ was *broken* because Thors did splash damage. Or when roaches no longer cost 1 supply. Or when they no longer had 2 armor. Or when Steppes of War wasn't in the map pool. Or when IdrA wasn't having his period (or playing against blink stalkers).
I don't think it's the races fault or the actual state of imbalance, but a case of too many people taking their cues from an asshole (starts with I and occasionally ends with GG) with a massive failure in the maturity department.
(general rage at multiple forums fyi, not targeting anyone specifically here)
I don't think it's the races fault or the actual state of imbalance, but a case of too many people taking their cues from an asshole (starts with I and occasionally ends with GG) with a massive failure in the maturity department.
Best post ITT.
(a nexus is just as vulnerable as a hatch but nobody seems to be crying from a toss perspective!)
Last edited by noobinater; Sat, 16th-Jul-2011 at 8:40 AM.
neither of those examples looked imba to me, cant imagine a counter attack not winning the game in the tank example, that position isnt protecting anything.. and as for bunkers if your proactive with drones/overlords early game, that shouldnt go up, its an obvious spot to put a bunker so block it... just saying
Wait, you can set up siege tanks on the Towers in metal to shell your gold minerals.
OP IMBA NUFF PLZ OMG WHY DOES BLIZZ HATE ZERG!!1!!1!11!!11!
Serious note, every time a zerg winges about map balance or something like that, I laugh, maybe because I play terran, but also because there are multiple ways to defend such imbalances.
And about these Maps, its been said many times but this is why Blizz has a PTR for a reason, to test these things, and beleive it or not but when your making maps under a working enviroment (IE not for fun) you have a tendancy to go-over a few things that are important, and again this is why we have the PTR.
Lol at how every zerg complains about cliffs yet always fail to point out that without these types of nuances terran would be average. Sure there are extremities in map-making like Jungle Basin but this is far from it.
Dippa's point is pretty accurate. There really needs to be less whinge.
Last edited by CZE; Fri, 15th-Jul-2011 at 4:50 PM.
being a zerg player... needless to say delta - 1 its out of my map preference the moment i knew how to use it.
as for the new maps.. man... i thought they were looking into making it more macro.. but it seems like all-ins for Ts wld kick zerg's nuts right off the bat >_<~
Somehow I think the people from Blizzard are humans which makes them bias towards Terrans.
You can see by how they make the map architecture like the high/low ground cliffs and plateau.
Sometimes I wonder why i still play protoss
Somehow I think the people from Blizzard are humans which makes them bias towards Terrans.
You can see by how they make the map architecture like the high/low ground cliffs and plateau.
Sometimes I wonder why i still play protoss
because you get walking siege tanks \o/
I'm curious though, how many people have tried the new maps?
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