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CCJester · Mon, 6th-Jun-2011, 9:57 PM

I was wondering what people's opinions are of how attitude and frustration can affect your game play.

At MLG Columbus a very relaxed Idra demolished one of the best protoss' in the game in MC in the first series of the event beating him 2-0....

At the end of the tournament, top 4, Idra, coming off a series he threw away against MMA, only needed 2 wins to knock out MC who needed to win 4. 20 minutes later Idra had dropped three games and while the final game was entertaining, Idra was finally knocked out.

Firstly... do you believe that Idra was capable of beating MC in that final series?
Secondly... do you think MC got into Idra's head with his famous cross throat thumbs down?
Thirdly... what affect does mental strength and your attitude have on your gaming? In SC2 and others?

Interested to know...

p.s ... fourthly... for those who saw it... who else found MMA's shoryuken absolutely HILARIOUS!

DtorR · Mon, 6th-Jun-2011, 10:16 PM

Bad luck comes in three's but unfortunately he suffered it six times. All winnable games just wasn't in the zone.

FaDeBadger · Mon, 6th-Jun-2011, 10:25 PM

Idra let's his emotions get the better of him. It's the reason he loses. It's the reason he lost to MMA and it's the reason he lost to MC. He demonstrated on the first day that he is capable of beating the best.

He needs to pull his head out of his ass and learn that it's a game, and the sooner he gets his emotions out of his gameplay the better. Note: I said out of his gameplay He can be as BM and as much of a bitch as he wants out of the game, but when it comes to the crunch he needs to let it all go.

He also needs to stop GG'ing when he "thinks" he has lost. Grow a pair and fight it out you scrub.

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	ToRDeathsFang:	Well said
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Paroxysm · Mon, 6th-Jun-2011, 10:47 PM

Badger summed up just about everything. Even on his stream, Idra GG's out when he really could win with ease. His emotions get the better of him every game and his view of Terran and Protoss and his BM emphasizes this key fact.

AlphaWhale · Tue, 7th-Jun-2011, 2:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Paroxysm

Badger summed up just about everything. Even on his stream, Idra GG's out when he really could win with ease. His emotions get the better of him every game and his view of Terran and Protoss and his BM emphasizes this key fact.

The early ggs on ladder I think have something to do IdrA not playing a game out that he doesn't think he will learn anything from (?). Raging ladder games doesn't mean a lot, but when you're at a tournament such as MLG it puzzles me.

My theory is IdrA only wanted to finish as top foreigner/Westerner at Columbus but who knows what's going through his head aside from "**** protoss, **** terran."

**PiG** · Tue, 7th-Jun-2011, 8:47 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaWhale

The early ggs on ladder I think have something to do IdrA not playing a game out that he doesn't think he will learn anything from (?). Raging ladder games doesn't mean a lot, but when you're at a tournament such as MLG it puzzles me.

My theory is IdrA only wanted to finish as top foreigner/Westerner at Columbus but who knows what's going through his head aside from "**** protoss, **** terran."

Idra only wanted to finish as top foreigner? I'm sorry are you saying he didn't put in effort vs the koreans? I'm having trouble understanding what you're trying to say here.

As for him quitting ladder games I think you're spot on that he doesn't think he will learn anything from scrappy games that rely on mental fortitude, reflexes and instinct. Instead he is so focused on perfecting 'standard' play that he's sacrificing his ability to train himself in these qualities. Maybe he should realise that with a game as new as SC2 the chances of getting a standard game aren't nearly what they were in Broodwar. The game relys so much more on different types of control and just isn't figured out yet. Not to mention that I'm sure Jaedong doesn't quit whenever he makes a mistake in practice. I would bet that he plays every single game out because he understands understands what he has to gain from it.

Oh and btw who saw the interview with idra and his gf? Mannerisms of a 14 year old and sounds like she has half as many brains lol.

Idra said "he stopped training and started working out" and I feel like there was probably a bit of truth in his sarcasm lol! Maybe his first time with a girl to impress at MLG so it made his emotions get the better of him? Haha either way the GG was inexcusable from a pro

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FaDeBadger:

Dumb as a post, but at least she's hot right?

AlphaWhale · Tue, 7th-Jun-2011, 7:02 PM

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Originally Posted by PiG

Idra only wanted to finish as top foreigner? I'm sorry are you saying he didn't put in effort vs the koreans? I'm having trouble understanding what you're trying to say here.

That's pretty much exactly what I'm saying. Towards the end of the tournament I felt like I wasn't watching the player who 2-0'd MC.

IdrA's nonchalant/doesn't give a **** attitude isn't a secret. That's why I'm saying what I'm saying.

**PiG** · Wed, 8th-Jun-2011, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaWhale

That's pretty much exactly what I'm saying. Towards the end of the tournament I felt like I wasn't watching the player who 2-0'd MC.

IdrA's nonchalant/doesn't give a **** attitude isn't a secret. That's why I'm saying what I'm saying.

I just can't believe anyone wouldn't put effort into the final matches of a $10K tournament of a sport which their life revolves around. Idra obviously made some horrible, horrible judgements and was simply in a screwed up set of mind after prematurely GGing vs MMA.

But I don't for one second believe he wasn't trying. I think with his weak mindset and emotions got the better of him so his absolute best effort involved some PATHETICALLY executed all-ins whilst he felt sorry for himself.

I'm sick of hearing so many Idra fans saying he lost on purpose vs MMA to go snipe MC or he just wanted to prove that toss was imba or he didnt want to beat koreans for some ridiculous reason.

The problem wasn't him not putting effort in, it was him being too weak mentally to handle the pressure.

**nirvAnA** · Mon, 6th-Jun-2011, 10:49 PM

1) yes i feel on another day idra could have definitely beat MC. MC played so cheesy and idras frustration showed when he tried to "revenge cheese" in game 3 throwing away another game.

he must have been super tilted after realising his mistake vs MMA and just lost his fighting spirit. I feel he weak psychologically because he lets his emotions affect his game play. well even naniwa's play seemed shaken in the TSL3 finals. its hard to compete at a top level when so much is at stake and to control your emotions but someone with this quality would be select, who can forget his magical run in an earlier MLG? he got knocked out early in the winners brackets and then had a super uphill task of clawing his way back through the loser bracket vs the world's very best who had flown in. i recall he played 13 hours straight which was full of tense and tiring long games back to back and ended up #3 where others would have just given up early and threw in the towel. superb spirit son!

2) doubt it affected him
3) definitely - the psychological aspect is a huge component in anyone's game.
4) yea that was hilarious haha

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aztecx · Mon, 6th-Jun-2011, 10:54 PM

Yeah, I really wanted Idra to win this tournament. Him at his best is amazing.

The game in which he left versus MMA was just fking stupid. Pretty funny how it all came about though hahaha

matthras · Tue, 7th-Jun-2011, 6:00 AM

I'm along with the common opinion that IdrA's emotions are his own worst enemy. I haven't actually watched the games, but for him to lose 4 straight games to MC and then the controversial gg vs MMA, it definitely doesn't sound like him :P

Regarding his ladder games, it's more as AlphaWhale says. If it's something cheesy that he fails to hold off, to him it's not worth making the effort to claw his way up back from a deficit (especially when his general gameplan is messed up as a result).

3) Mental strength/attitude does play a huge factor, especially when you're gaming over a full day. It's hard to imagine how someone like SeleCT must've felt losing so many games during Pool Play. And certainly if you're not mentally strong it's very easy to go on tilt after losing two games in a row when you know that you 'only need' two more games to win the series (i.e. IdrA vs MC extended series).
July mentioned in an interview that he kept his games short in the Open Bracket to conserve energy, and as a result he's managed to deliver very well when it's come to the more important games as a result.

noobinater · Tue, 7th-Jun-2011, 9:04 AM

Idra would dominate (dominate) on the world stage if he got over himself. He outplayed MC straight up on day 1. I havn't seen the MMA series but I watched his last MC set live and my hand was firmly pressed to my face almost the entire time.

Kid needs to accept that he's a professional and that there's value in playing out games (he's said he wanted to GG in game 2 of day 1 v MC but stayed in and won).

I used to think Idra was pretty cool, even if he bitched a lot. Now I know better.

FvRelimzkE · Tue, 7th-Jun-2011, 10:22 AM

I went "pro" in my first game at 14 years old, in Quakeworld.
Naturally being a 14 year old my skills were usually influenced heavily by my attitude and emotions. Luckily for me the Quakeworld community was mainly oldies so they never smack talked :P

Counter-Strike however, I would lose matches all the time because my opponents would badmouth me etc.

Emotions still play a huge role for me and I'm generally pretty bm if I lose to a rush :P

SLCN.Kez · Tue, 7th-Jun-2011, 1:33 PM

wow idras gf is farken hot... ahahha, however yeah he really should man up stop being a pussy and just play out games, especially when his gf is there, who would want to quit infront of their gf? lol.

Edrahil · Tue, 7th-Jun-2011, 2:24 PM

Idra's problem is that he has no "heart". Which is in my opinion the difference between a player like MMA and a player like Idra. How many games have we seen MMA come back from being down to take what everyone thought was surely his opponent's game to lose.

I do agree that what Idra does on stream or ladder matters not. Those are practice games. But in an match with his future in the tournament on the line, it is so disappointing to see his lack of determination come through again and again.

Between a player who is highly skilled but who quits whenever he feels he is behind and a player who is alittle less skilled but will try his hardest to the end, my money is on the latter everytime. (please note this is just an analogy and is not reflective of Idra vs MMA since MMA > Idra in both "heart" and starcraft 2 mechanics)

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FaDeBadger:

Well said, on both the heart and the MMA>Idra

Azure · Wed, 8th-Jun-2011, 1:09 AM

it has been proven multiple times that Idra goes on tilt. if you ever watch his stream about 30% of the time people have a go just to throw him off to try and get a win they dont deserve.

CCJester · Wed, 8th-Jun-2011, 1:34 AM

what exactly threw Idra off of his game though....
this is what i just cant get.
Did the game against MMA throw him off that bad that he just tried to rush three times against the anti-cheese himself?

It felt like Idra didnt think he was good enough to win which is just stupid...

Also...
What throws people off their game in general and how easily can it happen?

TAhackdZ · Wed, 8th-Jun-2011, 9:46 AM

Hot topic atm.

For me it's about professionalism. IdrA is a pro player, on a pro team, playing in pro tournaments.
He should act like a professional.

You don't see NSW GG'ing the State of Origin even when their down 20 points with 3 mins to go.
No...they play it out, and so should IdrA.

I don't care if he gg's and leaves ladder games, BM's everyone in sight or w/e, that's his perogative. What I care about is a scene that's trying to get itself taken seriously as a professional endevour, and pro players acting like children when they loose.

It doesnt project the professional image that leagues like MLG, NASL, GSL, etc try to produce. And it certainly doesnt make IdrA look like a professional player.

Anywho...my two cents, not really worth anything...

dennistoo · Wed, 8th-Jun-2011, 10:34 AM

Idra's is a joke.

G3/G4/G5 is all a fast GG without even bother trying.

Are you angry?
Zerg isnt supposed to beat protoss
Cool GG

2-0? You dream. i 4-0, you cry LOL MC IS A BALLER.

crAzerk · Wed, 8th-Jun-2011, 11:37 AM

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I'm sick of hearing so many Idra fans saying he lost on purpose vs MMA to go snipe MC

I think they are saying this because of that premature GG against MMA where it didn't seem to be a problem of being 'mentally weak ' or anything - it's not like he just lost his entire army - in fact, he just cleared up the entire Terran's army.

I mean sure, some explanations like his drone-stack on his gas looking like he lost them all may have contributed to it, but it seemed totally weird to just GG out of a won game (as opposed to quitting a game where he can't handle the pressure)

Azure · Thu, 9th-Jun-2011, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by crAzerk

I think they are saying this because of that premature GG against MMA where it didn't seem to be a problem of being 'mentally weak ' or anything - it's not like he just lost his entire army - in fact, he just cleared up the entire Terran's army.

I mean sure, some explanations like his drone-stack on his gas looking like he lost them all may have contributed to it, but it seemed totally weird to just GG out of a won game (as opposed to quitting a game where he can't handle the pressure)
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he still had what 3 other mining bases, even if he lost all the drones at his nat he still had a good chance of coming back.

i love DJ wheat/Day 9's faces when he GG's

ZergGirl · Wed, 8th-Jun-2011, 11:45 AM

MC (and july) steppin' off a plane and playing at what would be their 4-6am wouldn't have thrown them at all... :P

and what pig said

Meatex · Wed, 8th-Jun-2011, 11:54 AM

maybe his new gf kept him up all night so he was off his game :P

But Idra is pretty stubborn about his views on balance, yes shak is a map that kind of favours protoss in ZvP but I think his attitude in that sense is trying to protect himself against his rage. Instead of trying to fight it out he wants to gg out asap so he can get on with the next game, instead of trying to come back from behind while it makes the rage bubble up inside him.

Could have also been an attempt at some minds games, cheese/throw away the first game so he can get away with a 15 hatch next game?
The final match was a bit retarded though. Idra played well but still got roflstomped. The lesson is: zerg aren't meant to beat protoss ^^

FaDeBadger · Wed, 8th-Jun-2011, 2:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Meatex

yes shak is a map that kind of favours protoss in ZvP

How is Shakuras favoured for protoss? Have you tried taking a 3rd base? Let alone trying to deny expansions of a zergs?

If the zerg can hold a 2 base push from the protoss then it becomes ridiculously hard for a toss player to win.

Benji · Wed, 8th-Jun-2011, 2:07 PM

Idra said on Inside the game that he left because he thought the CC being built at the gold was a 4th (saw the 3rd CC in base and thought it was at the west gold when in reality MMA killed it, something Idra could never even consider), and given that income, expected another wave of Marine/Medivac/Tank to be heading to the middle to reestablish that position, which he had no way to counter production wise, combined with the drop at the natural which he couldn't clean up fast enough.

Edrahil · Wed, 8th-Jun-2011, 7:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Benji

Idra said on Inside the game that he left because he thought the CC being built at the gold was a 4th (saw the 3rd CC in base and thought it was at the west gold when in reality MMA killed it, something Idra could never even consider), and given that income, expected another wave of Marine/Medivac/Tank to be heading to the middle to reestablish that position, which he had no way to counter production wise, combined with the drop at the natural which he couldn't clean up fast enough.

Exactly how he lost to Huk, because he knew there was no way he could counter or stop the mass of voidrays Huk had been secretly building.

Two issues:

1) Idra looks at a situation with imperfect knowledge, despite him having superior judgement and experience, as Starcraft 2 is a game of imperfect knowledge, it is always possible to make mistakes.
For whatever reason, Idra refuses to accept this fact even in key games.

2) As early as in IEM, Idra has always been leaving tournament games early. However, he has been making a habit of this with the excuse that it is not worth his mental fortitude to stretch what is in his mind an unwinnable situation (despite the first point about imperfect knowledge).

There is some merit to the idea that there is no sense in exhausting himself and dragging a demoralizing loss when he can just start over in a new game, but he ignores the fact that like every other game and/or sport, he is playing against other imperfect beings with imperfect knowledge and is not willing to push himself in hope that his opponent makes a mistake somewhere down the line. Yes, this may only apply in as few as 1 in 10 or 1 in 20 similar situations, but when you are a professional taking part in high profile tournament, I would have hoped that he be willing to dig in deep and tough out the adversity.

pikk0n · Wed, 8th-Jun-2011, 2:51 PM

Badger, it favours toss because blink stalkers can abuse the cliffs. Blink stalkers are very powerful on that map when used properly by the pros.

However, as for Meatex's final QQ about toss OP.....

I disagree because how would you explain Idra winning the first 2 games? It shows me evenness rather than OPness in that a bit of confidence goes a long way into helping you win games. Same can be said about Idra losing the confidence he had early in the tournament.

FaDeBadger · Wed, 8th-Jun-2011, 3:13 PM

Unless your opponent is bad you aren't going to win massing blink stalkers off two bases. Like I said, if the zerg can hold a 2 base push (which most good zergs should) it becomes ridiculously hard.

You can't just call a map protoss favoured because in one specific part of the game, i.e early-midish it does favour them. Because when it comes to mid-late game, it clearly doesn't.

Benji · Wed, 8th-Jun-2011, 3:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BadgerWatch

Unless your opponent is bad you aren't going to win massing blink stalkers off two bases. Like I said, if the zerg can hold a 2 base push (which most good zergs should) it becomes ridiculously hard.

You can't just call a map protoss favoured because in one specific part of the game, i.e early-midish it does favour them. Because when it comes to mid-late game, it clearly doesn't.

2 Base pushes aren't easy to hold at any level of play, saying 'oh you should never lose to a 2 base push' is simply a lack of knowledge and experiance on your behalf.

FaDeBadger · Wed, 8th-Jun-2011, 7:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Benji

2 Base pushes aren't easy to hold at any level of play, saying 'oh you should never lose to a 2 base push' is simply a lack of knowledge and experiance on your behalf.

With the map control that a zerg should have if a protoss Forge FE's then they should be able to scout what is happening, if they can scout it happening and still lose to it then they are bad. Or the game is broken.

Next_rim · Wed, 8th-Jun-2011, 3:33 PM

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You can't just call a map protoss favoured because in one specific part of the game, i.e early-midish it does favour them. Because when it comes to mid-late game, it clearly doesn't.

The thing is a bit more interesting and has nothing to do with blink stalkers, imho. Shakuras favors protoss because:

-Takes zerg a while to build creep up to sideline 3rd
-Protoss can easily abuse sideline 4th, while zerg can't hit P 4th, if 3rd is walled well.
-P forward 3rd is much stronger than Z forward 3rd.

Interestingly enough, if both P and Z expand sideline, Z has stronger 3rd, but weaker 4th. If P expands forward, while zerg expands sideline, P has stronger 3rd, but very weak 4th. So, depending on game state and game plan, P can abuse 3rd placement to force zerg into a weaker base at a certain point in the game, and win right there. That's why Shakuras is P favored. T is even easier, because PF at 3rd sideline gives zerg nightmares.

Benji · Wed, 8th-Jun-2011, 3:37 PM

Also you can forge fe very easily, and its next to impossible to Roach/Ling allin on the map. This means you can cut corners earlygame as you don't have to worry so much about 1/2 base allins.

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pikk0n:

Agreed. This is the one map that I would readily do a forge FE on. It's easier to FFE here because of the high ground advantage at your nat.

pikk0n · Wed, 8th-Jun-2011, 3:39 PM

Badger, I never once said MASS blink stalkers. I said blink stalkers are powerful. Do you ever see a pro going MASS blink stalkers? The blink stalkers can be used to harrass the main and defending a third (if you expand to the top or bot of your base) is easier with blink stalkers guarding the middle. Blink stalkers is one of the strats that make toss more favoured on that map as for other strats, I'm not too sure. BUT you're not going to see ANY pro going MASS blink stalkers off 2 bases... :S Unless it's for LOLz and his early harrassment on the zerg's main worked very well.

ShinyA · Thu, 9th-Jun-2011, 6:16 PM

IdrA even admitted MC didn't look up to par not only in his matches but throughout the entire tournament, so there definitely something to his "jetlagged" comments.

IdrA could beat any player, sure. But of course MC is going to be a hard game for anyone. IdrA was obviously still tilted from the games against MMA and it showed. There was only one decent game and even in that one IdrA was making terrible decisions, he had the proper unit composition to counter MC's but he engaged in a bad area and lost a lot to DT's. No one should really be saying that IdrA should have won those games, especially if you're just basing it off of the first games that IdrA took.

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pikk0n · Thu, 9th-Jun-2011, 6:42 PM

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IdrA even admitted MC didn't look up to par not only in his matches but throughout the entire tournament, so there definitely something to his "jetlagged" comments.

IdrA could beat any player, sure. But of course MC is going to be a hard game for anyone. IdrA was obviously still tilted from the games against MMA and it showed. There was only one decent game and even in that one IdrA was making terrible decisions, he had the proper unit composition to counter MC's but he engaged in a bad area and lost a lot to DT's. No one should really be saying that IdrA should have won those games, especially if you're just basing it off of the first games that IdrA took.

I agree with most of your points. Game 1 and 2 Idra definitely deserved to lose but with game 3, I felt that he could have won the match though the game would have been a very long game had he continued on. As for game 4, I was a little confused about idra not getting blings and infestors but then I suppose that's a massive tech switch. He was basically forced into hydras by MC's early harrassment with the flyers. That said, had spanishiwa been playing MC, I think spanishiwa would have won with the bling/infestor/ultra/mass queen combo. IdrA seemed to be playing the standard old school zerg gameplay with roach hydra corruptors which everyone has been saying, loses to the toss death ball of void/colo/gateway units. Also, he did made a mistake in the last game as you said. He forgot to set his overseer to follow and a lot of hydras died to the dts.

A pity. The loss to MMA definitely affected him.

TCPLemminks · Fri, 10th-Jun-2011, 3:33 AM

Well I just watched the series and that last game was really good. Thing is in the last battle I don't think taking out the dts would have mattered, since they only came when the battle was done. Unfortunately for Idra his hydra's blocked his infestors from fungal growthing, either that or he didn't fungal growth in time.
Also lol at "are you angry?" from MC at the beginning, shame he didn't have a troll face on.

As for the first 3 games, well they were terrible. The first one was pretty all in, but the second and third he still could have been in the mid game even if he was behind.

OP: yes your emotions can definately affect your decision making and therefore your ability to play. As with the others, I agree that if Idra would focus on the game more, playing his macro style like game 4, with maybe a cheese thrown in every now and then, he could be one of the best in the world. I mean he got to ro8 (ro4?) in GSL once.

pikk0n · Fri, 10th-Jun-2011, 11:11 AM

Lemminks, the dts were actually hacking away at the hydras when idra engaged. There were 3 dts amongst the hydras. Hydras are 'meant to' counter stalkers (even blink stalkers) but like you said. the positioning of his infestors lost him the game as well. Not landing a single fungal growth definitely lost him the battle but the dts also helped MC as well.

Apart from the 'are you angry' comment, i heard that MC did a couple of gestures to idra too. One after the first 2 rounds where idra crushed MC and another after these 4 rounds. Would you happen to have a link to the videos? I have been searching youtube for it and all I can find is MMA's hadouken to idrA. WTF did IdrA do to the koreans??!!!! LOL! What's up with all those antiques???!

SLCN.Kez · Fri, 10th-Jun-2011, 12:20 PM

its probably just because they know he is really bad mannered and thinks hes the best so they like to do it back to him. Imagine a little quiet guy whos only polite, no one wants to bag him, but a really loud obnoxious guy loses? everyone wants to bag him ahaha.

crAzerk · Fri, 10th-Jun-2011, 12:57 PM

@pikkon If you are referring to the cutthroat gesture, go check out Cute's recap on the front page! THe video is included there

And they are doing all these just like how in any other sport there's like trash talking and stuff? It spices up the game both for them and more importantly for the fans! MC really knows how to 'milk the crowd' and makes him a more entertaining player aside from his gameplay.

pikk0n · Fri, 10th-Jun-2011, 3:27 PM

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@pikkon If you are referring to the cutthroat gesture, go check out Cute's recap on the front page! THe video is included there

And they are doing all these just like how in any other sport there's like trash talking and stuff? It spices up the game both for them and more importantly for the fans! MC really knows how to 'milk the crowd' and makes him a more entertaining player aside from his gameplay.

Thanks for that. Much appreciated.

As for MC. Is that how he usually behaves? I'd like to see more of that. I was of the opinion it's a publicity stunt but it seems to me that they are having a go at only IdrA who used to be in Korea. Not anyone else. LOL! Or is it a team strategy to unsettle IdrA because even MMA was doing the funny hadouken.

**yongming** · Fri, 10th-Jun-2011, 4:19 PM

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Thanks for that. Much appreciated.

As for MC. Is that how he usually behaves? I'd like to see more of that. I was of the opinion it's a publicity stunt but it seems to me that they are having a go at only IdrA who used to be in Korea. Not anyone else. LOL! Or is it a team strategy to unsettle IdrA because even MMA was doing the funny hadouken.

mc does that all the time since he was in mbc hero except the does the throat slash before the game and proceeds to lose quite badly.

**yongming** · Fri, 10th-Jun-2011, 4:02 PM

not trying to discredit idra but imo day 1's 0-2 loss to idra would never happened if mc was in proper shape.
mc wasnt even supposed to be there. he was roped in last minute when bomber missed his flight. so he flew off on a ~15hours flight on the day he was informed of that change and when he reached, his match is the opening match for the whole event.