[sR.Kumo]

AxS vs DGTV


-Format-
All-kill Best of 9

-Place and Time-
Saturday, the 14th of December
South East Asia server, channel is "axsvsdgtv"

14 december 2013 1:00 PM AEDT

-Maps-
Starting map is Star Station.
2013 Season 6 Map Pool, each map to be used 2x only.

+ [Map Pool] +

Bel'Shir Vestige LE (2)
Derelict Watcher TE (2)
Polar Night LE (2)
Star Station TE (2)
Yeonsu LE (2)
Alterzim Stronghold TE (4)
Frost LE (4)

-Stream-
TBD

-Results-
AxS.Player < DGTV.Player
AxS.Player > DGTV.Player
TBD

[sR.Kumo]

Looking for Caster, PM me / post here / Skype msg me if you're able and willing to cast ^^

[syfRize]

I can cast
Nah, never done it, shit net, w/e no cast from me.

Gogo AxS! Lets make it 3 DGTV losses in a row!

[DGWoLF]

SouL you make me sad

Quick Comments

syfRize:

Dat master coaching should do it for my boys ^_^

[ToRSpartaz]

Best of luck both sides!

Who is going to win this competition?
AxS	Bet!
DGTV	Bet!

[Seffy]

Kumopls, all-kill.

[ThatGuyDoMo]

I hope Mayhem plays ^.^

[sR.Kumo]

Jieun, I never play in CWs ;-; too scrubby..
I'm just the BSG Leader, so I sit there and pretend to do something useful while all my lovely minions play really well and go away into PD division over time, while I stay here in Bronze and lead the BSG ;-;

Quick Comments

	syfRize:	wowow so emo
	Seffy:	PLAY

[sR_Osiris]

Excision allkill ?

[AxS.Dodda]

Game on.

Can we post a final line up?

Quick Comments

sR.Kumo:

Lineups not given before the CW date >:o

[DGWoLF]

Its Kinda hard to give a line up when i am struggling to get some players as is because of timings around the work and work. Hell i wont even be there for the games tomorrow! because i will be at work

[VicES.HaZaRd]

I cant play sadly I wish i could!!

[DGWoLF]

I think DGTV is going to have to Postpone due to not having the player being able to commit to the time.

Quick Comments

syfRize:

Revive rule?

[DGWoLF]

What is this revive rule ? oh dw i understand. and its not worth it i only have 2 players who can make it! its not worth the players time. We will reschedule for after the festive season and we can have a full team vs AxS but for now i dont see the teams being able to meet before then with roster problems from DGTV

Quick Comments

	syfRize:	Wow, calm the **** down mate.
	Narse:	I don't see the issue for him needing to calm down?
	ThatGuyDoMo:	EVERYBODY JUST CHILL
	sR.Kumo:	NO dOmO YOU CHILL OKAY WE DONT' NEED TO CHILL *TABLEFLIP*
	sR_Osiris:	............

[DGWoLF]

Wait what ???? man i hate having stuff in writing. It is very easy to take something and take it out of context. For the Record i am chill and was chill and no rage came from my previous post. I was merely saying as it is. And the fact is this is a busy time of the year and we may need to postpone till after Xmas.

Quick Comments

	sR_Osiris:	.......
	syfRize:	As chill as a soda pop.

[Narse]

Do Aussies call it pop or soda down there?

Canada is pop
USA is soda

Quick Comments

	syfRize:	We call it fizzy drink :p
	sR.Kumo:	Yep, fizzy drinks is pretty much what they use here too :3

[syfRize]

Bump ~~

This clan war will commence today (21/12) at 3pm AEDT!




Find rosters here:

Roster:

+ [Open] +

Avisty
Dodda
Valheru
BoardingPear
iLikeTrains

Subs -
DuSt

DGTV Roster:

+ [Open] +

mayheM
InArmourClad
MasterChief
Narse
Exan

Subs -
Invictus

Find the results here:

+ [Open] +

AxS 5 - 4 DGTV
	AxS.Avisty	< Star Station >	DGTV.InArmourClad	()
	AxS.Dodda	< Bel'shir Vestige LE >	DGTV.InArmourClad	()
	AxS.Dodda	< Yeonsu LE >	DGTV.mayheM
	AxS.Dodda	< Frost LE >	DGTV.Narse
	AxS.Dodda	< Polar Night LE >	DGTV.MasterChief
	AxS.Valheru	< Derelict Watcher >	DGTV.MasterChief
	AxS.BoardingPear	< Walkover >	DGTV.MasterChief
	AxS.BoardingPear	< Yeonsu LE >	DGTV.InArmourClad	()(revived)
	AxS.iLikeTrains	< Derelict Watcher LE >	DGTV.InArmourClad	()(revived)

[Seffy]

I am sad to see Kumo not playing.

Quick Comments

syfRize:

He had stuff to attend to bruh. :(

[sR.Kumo]

//Hype
Sorry I couldn't be there to manage guys, we're spending the next week or so driving around east europe and stuff .-.

[VicES.HaZaRd]

If Narse cant make it I'll be captain I think.

[ThatGuyDoMo]

I'll be watching

[VicES.HaZaRd]

haha DoMo Just pick me up for Snx already?

Quick Comments

SLCN.Wally:

if you all kill here you can have a yes from me!

[AxS.Dodda]

Anyone casting this today?

[syfRize]

Does SouL get a yes from Snx? ;_;

Quick Comments

SLCN.Wally:

we have enough dirty protoss tyvm

[sR_Osiris]

Originally Posted by AxS.SouL

Invictus

from ETL ??

Quick Comments

syfRize:

No.

[VicES.HaZaRd]

No Snx for me, Played the worst game of my life.

[VicES.HaZaRd]

Is that how you win all CW's by full dogging your opponents?

[syfRize]

Originally Posted by mayheM.

Is that how you win all CW's by full dogging your opponents?

Mate, we just had a long talk on Skype..
Why did you apologize if you're just going to be an ignorant turd?

[VicES.HaZaRd]

Originally Posted by AxS.SouL

Mate, we just had a long talk on Skype..
Why did you apologize if you're just going to be an ignorant turd?

Because I released that you guys all agreed with the scores till the second last game where you realised you were going to lose and dogged us and said that because MC had to leave we lose.

I'd rather be an ingnorant turd then a cheating dog.

[sR.BoardingPear]

Originally Posted by mayheM.

Because I released that you guys all agreed with the scores till the second last game where you realised you were going to lose and dogged us and said that because MC had to leave we lose.

I'd rather be an ingnorant turd then a cheating dog.

Calm down man you can't have someone play, kill two people then completely change his spot in the line up with some one else doesn't work like that... after you played him he couldn't just leave, if you knew he was going to leave don't play him, just calm down bro better luck next time

[VicES.HaZaRd]

Originally Posted by BoardingPear

Calm down man you can't have someone play, kill two people then completely change his spot in the line up with some one else doesn't work like that... after you played him he couldn't just leave, if you knew he was going to leave don't play him, just calm down bro better luck next time

I'm really chilled with a scent of WTF is this?

MC said before his second game that he had to leave. After the game armour played when he took his place. You guys suddenly didn't agree with the scores and I don't see how it goes from 3-3 to 4-3 to AxS after you lost a game and the next hadn't even been played? I think you guys realized you were going to lose so you had to cheat.
Please stop cheating and make these things fun.

[sR_Osiris]

ahahahahah

[sR_Osiris]

Originally Posted by mayheM.

Is that how you win all CW's by full dogging your opponents?

please explain to us

[sR.BoardingPear]

Calm down, don't be mad

[iliketrains]

If you knew he was going to leave you shouldve played him earlier! Also the fact AxS didnt realize masterchief's loss wasnt actually added untill the very end, if you cant take a loss dont do clan wars, AxS did nothing wrong, you guys tried to get a cheap win which you guys lost to me anyway, BM and try to feel hard done by more, not working buddy

Quick Comments

Seffy:

I too like trains.

[VicES.HaZaRd]

Originally Posted by iliketrains

If you knew he was going to leave you shouldve played him earlier! Also the fact AxS didnt realize masterchief's loss wasnt actually added untill the very end, if you cant take a loss dont do clan wars, AxS did nothing wrong, you guys tried to get a cheap win which you guys lost to me anyway, BM and try to feel hard done by more, not working buddy

No one knew he was leaving till the start of the second game???? Whats the point of not playing him then since he won the first? You guys are the ones pulling the cheap one and also what did you do make an announcement to all BSG AxS players to come post here? That's cheap.

[iliketrains]

you said because MC was leaving if you could revive, nothing about someone taking MC's place! you lost, deal with it

[syfRize]

You really called me a cheating dog?
So a player has to leave in all-kill, he is counted as a walkover, you then revive ArmourClad as your last player.

How are we cheating? You basically want to swap a submitted player out mid-clan war, after he gets 2 kills.

This isn't wrestling, you don't tag in/tag out.

[VicES.HaZaRd]

Well I cant be bothered talking to anyone of you guys ever, great win for myself since now I know which clan is the bad one.

[iliketrains]

No the fact it is common logic that it is a loss, and its all over sc2sea that people are replying so people will look and you started to bm in chat, stop being a child and grow up and accept defeat

[syfRize]

No, we did not make an announcement.

My players are obviously offended by your behavior, we're supposed to be celebrating, not explaining to someone ignorant how clan wars go.

If you would like to say something further, you have my Skype, you should pm me and continue our chat, i'm pretty sure we left it off with you saying something like this:

[5:37:34 PM] Shawn "mayheM" Leitch: Sorry for not understanding the rules man. I probbly look like the biggest douchebag. :\

[VicES.HaZaRd]

I also just realized that 7 players or something left AxS and joined us no wonder you have stuff against us.

[Kreamy]

If someone has to leave for whatever reason they should forfeit and the team loses a map. If we could swap whoever we wanted without any consequences then people would just swap players left and right to snipe people.

Quick Comments

Seffy:

This.

[mGGDaedalus]

hashtag drama!

Quick Comments

syfRize:

lol!

[syfRize]

Kreamy, thankyou.

mayheM, I said to Skype me.

[iliketrains]

mayhem, you still lost to me, i know no one from your team, and you still lost to me, dont be butt hurt, get better and challenge again, and maybe you might win it

Quick Comments

sR.BoardingPear:

lololololol

[VicES.HaZaRd]

Originally Posted by iliketrains

mayhem, you still lost to me, i know no one from your team, and you still lost to me, dont be butt hurt, get better and challenge again, and maybe you might win it

Why don't you come vs me tonight?? I played the worst game ever today so let's go.

[Infected]

Looks like a great opportunity
Good luck to everyone involved!

Quick Comments

sR.Kumo:

Best post SEA/10

[ToRSpookToR]

Originally Posted by Infected

Looks like a great opportunity
Good luck to everyone involved!

who do you think you are, stealing my lines. you cheating whore dog.

[SLCN.Wally]

it's a friendly clan war, if someone has to go it's usually common courtesy to just let him be replaced

[VicES.HaZaRd]

Originally Posted by Snx.Wally

it's a friendly clan war, if someone has to go it's usually common courtesy to just let him be replaced

Exactly. They just knew they had lost.

[MrLando]

Cool jets boys.

[Chiddiru]

All-Kill format the player plays till he loses, if that player is then absent a walk over occurs, its called following basic rules, friendly clan war or not, but by reading this sounds pretty legit.

also if you had to revive a player in order to keep playing and that player lost anyway you'd lose with the score of 3-3 because you dont have any players left?

Quick Comments

DGWoLF:

we had another player Exan but thought that IAC was to play on for MC .

[VicES.HaZaRd]

Originally Posted by TCP.FeDe

All-Kill format the player plays till he loses, if that player is then absent a walk over occurs, its called following basic rules, friendly clan war or not, but by reading this sounds pretty legit.

also if you had to revive a player in order to keep playing and that player lost anyway you'd lose with the score of 3-3 because you dont have any players left?

We did have a player left.... Exan missed out because of this mess.

[syfRize]

I still don't have any PM's on Skype buddy.

[VicES.HaZaRd]

Originally Posted by AxS.SouL

I still don't have any PM's on Skype buddy.

That's because I'm not messaging you WoLF can sort it out as he likes to.

[FSBenAD]

In every clan war ive run with the slugs or as an admin, in all cases the default is if a player leaves its a loss. We have both gained and lost by this rule, but its a fair rule. In the end both captains of a clan can decide on the exact rules, but in the end its their call.

[mGGNemesis]

Normally in an all kill format, if a player has to go after playing, it is normally taken as a loss/forfeit and the games move on. However it also depends on any agreement between the 2 clans involved. i.e. replacement with no penalty. Being a friendly clanwar, it is possible for the latter to occur.

HOWEVER, the first part I mentioned, is the more common understanding that would normally take place. i.e. if a player has to leave, it would regarded as a loss/forfeit.

[SLCN.Wally]

hey man, we let probe revive then all kill us. It's a friendly clan war it's about the games not about the rules or winning or losing lol

[iliketrains]

mayhem, i said get better and challenge axs again, if you want to actually verse me, hope you get me in bsg, i played horribly today aswell

[syfRize]

I just want a PM on Skype instead of this pointless shit on a thread.

[iliketrains]

Wally, the difference is he only asked about reviving someone not about replacing due to leaving

[water666]

WELL! that escalated quickly.....

just checking scores n stumble into this... mayhem learn the rules before u have a go, or leave it to yourcaptain to do the sorting it out, you start pushing shit uphill its guna fall on you buddy... enjoy!

[ToRSpookToR]

about time we had some drama. blog, blog, blog!!! woo

[ROOTProbe]

rofl sigh...


Probe to All-Kill (-1)

Quick Comments

	SLCN.Wally:	hahahaha
	ThatGuyDoMo:	this
	Seffy:	class. hahaha

[Narse]

Is there a way to close a thread?? I can't believe i went to sleep to wake up to this nonsense. I played a bad game myself due to inactivity... no grudges there.

AxS good series, not sure what happened, but i'll start looking into this on my end.

Can we all agree to keep the hostility/name calling from continuing? It just looks bad on both sides regardless of who started it.. let this be the end of it.

Now to change a baby's diaper yay!

[DGWoLF]

Sigh this makes me very sad to read this. I wish i wasn't working today so i could have been there to work shit out

Ahhh Shit has been sorted back of house apologize have been made on behalf of the clan and from individuals inside of it have also said sorry.

I can understand the anger coming from both sides so know that there should be something mutual.

My players were under the impression that IAC was to continue on for MC not that he was in fact a Revive for our Ace. Mayehm who was leader at the time assumed this was the case and played IAC thinking he had Exan still left as our Ace. Now after IAC won his first game there was mention from AxS that MC in fact did forfeit. So the 4-3 DGTV way was actually a 4-4 then with IAC losing last game it made it 4 DGTV vs AxS 5. The players on my team was just confused because of a convosation with Dodda and mayhem before MC left and him saying he talked to Soul and the conclusion was that IAC would play on for MC when after IAC played his first game he wansnt and he was the ace player.

Anyway no need to dwell on it !! i feel Fair is fair and we have a ace vs ace at 4-4 to decide the outcome as there was confusion on both sides and miss communication. To finish it off fairly and void from shenanigans of what ever happened this afternoon. i suggest that. 1v1 Ace vs Ace

[AxS.Dodda]

Lol what?

Skype log

[1:30:01 PM] Andrew Dodd: yo Capt
[1:30:02 PM] Andrew Dodd: [DGTV] mayheM: MC has to go after this game so if he wins we may need to revive a player. (copy paste from sc2)
[1:30:34 PM] Layne ILikeTrains: he knows
[1:30:40 PM] Andrew Dodd: has replied?
[1:30:49 PM] Layne ILikeTrains: i alreadyy spoke to him
[1:31:19 PM] Andrew Dodd: what was the responce?
[1:31:34 PM] Layne ILikeTrains: iliketrains
[1:32:03 PM] Layne ILikeTrains: yeah they will get to revive, but they may send out shayne

I copy pasted the bolded bit back to him & that was it, nothing about playing on for MC.

TLDR: Everybody love everybody, lets rematch for keeps.

[DGWoLF]

Originally Posted by dodda

Lol what?

Skype log

[1:30:01 PM] Andrew Dodd: yo Capt
[1:30:02 PM] Andrew Dodd: [DGTV] mayheM: MC has to go after this game so if he wins we may need to revive a player. (copy paste from sc2)
[1:30:34 PM] Layne ILikeTrains: he knows
[1:30:40 PM] Andrew Dodd: has replied?
[1:30:49 PM] Layne ILikeTrains: i alreadyy spoke to him
[1:31:19 PM] Andrew Dodd: what was the responce?
[1:31:34 PM] Layne ILikeTrains: iliketrains
[1:32:03 PM] Layne ILikeTrains: yeah they will get to revive, but they may send out shayne

I copy pasted the bolded bit back to him & that was it, nothing about playing on for MC.

TLDR: Everybody love everybody, lets rematch for keeps.

Fair enough man. My teams leadership was in a mess today and i will take full responsibility for dropping leadership when narse had to sleep on myself. Clearly a Leadership role to make decisions was not best put in mayhem. I wish he was clearer when telling me what happened. Anyway i would again like to officially apologize for our players behavior to AxS and the Sc2Sea community. You didnt need this bullshit Soul didnt need this bullshit and i didnt need to get mass messaged at work via skype saying shits going down then having to come home to see all this.

We will rematch but it will be at a time i can actualy be available to lead my team and not hope my players can sort shit out.

Mass Confusion op
GG AxS and the best of luck in the SeaTL we hope to vs you soon !

[AxS.Dodda]

Thanks wolf. I agree things got out of hand but I don't want people thinking I gave the go ahead for anything on behalf of our leadership.

[sR.Kumo]

Damn, I leave and before even 24 hours of my absence all hell breaks loose ;o haha jk :P sorry that I couldn't be there either, and GGWP to DGTV (: I too hope we can verse each other once more in SeaTL, (or whatever it was called), and see who turns out victorious ^^