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**nirvAnA** · Thu, 24th-Mar-2011, 1:43 AM

Code S Groups.

Games will be streamed live Monday-Thursday next week.

Player	Group 1	Group 2	Group 3	Group 4
A	iceiceice	Light	KinGJesse	EdgE
B	YoonYJ	Filthy	RedArchon	OxygeN
C	JazBas	Revenant	Aaron	Roz
D	TargA	iaguz	Refallen	FaH

More information on how the random draw was done is in the 2nd post of this thread.
Video of the random live draw done by kelly will be posted soon.

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PREDICTIONS!!!!!
Who do you think will make it out each group? Who will win the tournament?

Predictions by well known community figures:

nGenHut's

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nGenJuicy's

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Feedback!!
Right now the major concern is whether the group stage matches will be bo1 or bo3. I've included a poll for the group stage matches which you can vote on.

Basically if its bo1 there will be a max of 5 matches. Pros are: it will end in 2 hours and will be logistically better to handle and also all games will be cast. Cons is it will finish too early for some people who want to watch a longer series of matches and it being bo1 might not produce the "fairest" results. but this is the format GSL uses and it seems to work great.

For the bo3 pros would be there will be more than enough for everyone to watch as the event would take 4 hours and results would be deemed more fair as its bo3. Cons are not all the games will be cast and the tournament it might spill out over a long period if there are some unexpectedly long games.

**nirvAnA** · Thu, 24th-Mar-2011, 2:27 AM

My predictions:

Group 1: yoon & ice. skill level in ZvZ is going to be a big factor
Group 2: imo the most evenly skilled group. kowi will be the fav and anything could happen with the other 3.
Group 3: redarchon to win it, anything could happen with the other 3. refallen/jesse have just started school and are semi-active and so is aaron, although i dunno what aaron has been up to. wat have u been doing aaron!
Group 4: oxygen / edge the favs tho i could certainly see roz/fah qualifying as second seed!

ProAnnn · Thu, 24th-Mar-2011, 4:00 AM

My prediction
Group 1: Ice and jazbas will win. 1st or 2nd depends on their match against each other. YYJ may win if he trains his TvZ hard enough as i have seen that his TvZ isnt that impressive yet... Targa is surely the underdog but u never know what wil happen in ZvZ.
Group 2: Revenent and Kowi will be 1st and 2nd respectively in this group. I haven seen iaguz play but i think he's the underdog here. I also haven seen filthy play in a while so i'll just give my votes to the 2 players i know are good.
Group 3: Aaron has been rocking up recent tournaments so i think he will get a solid 1st in this group. However, the 2nd is up in the air imo with refallen, RA and Jesse all have a chance. I'll go with RA if forced to choosse one.
Group 4: Group of death. Anything can goes in this group but i personally feel that oxygen / edge will emerge out of this imba group with their solid skills. Especially oxygen as he is unpredictable =P.

Bo1 Or Bo3: I think Bo3 may be a wiser choice as Bo1 is too punishing on making slight mistakes and BO losses.

nGenWild · Thu, 24th-Mar-2011, 4:34 AM

I voted for bo1 as this looks like MSL

My prediction:
Group1: ice/Targa (sry jaz, but u suck at zvz)
Group2: kowi/Rev
Group3: tbh, this group is toughest to decide.. I will stick with Ref/RA
Group4: edge/oxygen

NvPinder · Thu, 24th-Mar-2011, 4:39 AM

How are so few people predicting filthy to make it out of groups??? He's seriously the favorite to win the whole thing :|

edit: my predictions:

group A:
iceiceice & yyj

I think ice is a pretty obvious choice, and whilst i dont know much about targe, i think whether yyj can take out jazbas for the last spot will depend on how able he is to adapt to the huge maps, infestor buffs and stim/bunker nerfs that all play well and truly against his favor.

group B:
kowi & filthy

Filthy is active again and has been for a while, and an active filthy for those of you who didn't play beta is pretty much the only thing to ever stand up to glade as 'Best in SEA' in solid games. Add into that the fact he's practicing with world-class talent daily as part of the crazy FXO prac schedule and i think he'll easily 2-0 or at the least 2-1 this group. Add in to that Kowi who always seems to be right at the forefront of what ill call the 'abusive metagame' (doing things like todays efficient 4gate before 4 gate was the 4gate that it is today, 3 gate voidray against terran before they nerfed it, etc etc), and I'm sure he'll qualify easily.

Group C:
Aaron and Redarchon

This group, especially if it turns out to be Bo1, could go any way at all with the amount of dairy products some of these guys like to give out... However Aaron has been pretty impressive in everything I've seen him play recently and Redarchon is also a consistently high placer in like every SEA tournament he's ever played, so those are my two picks.

Group D:
Edge & Roz

I'll preface by saying i know literally nothing about Fah... sorry Fah :<. Whilst Oxygen is generally a pretty good player, his play at the asian quals was apparently hilariously lackluster and the fact that the maps are absolutely huge for this tournament isn't going to help his race or style one bit, combine that with the fact that EdgE's ZvT is already really strong without the maps being 50 screenlengths long , It's pretty easy to chose EdgE and Roz as the guys who proceed out of this group.

pRoTimber · Thu, 24th-Mar-2011, 6:33 AM

i like parlays too..lemme bet on
grp1: targa, ice
grp2: filthy, kowi
grp3: RA, aaron
grp4: freddy cheee, fah

Benji · Thu, 24th-Mar-2011, 7:25 AM

People that are voting for a Bo3 have zero respect for the amount of casting that will be required. 6xBo3's takes upwards of 5 hours to complete which is very draining on a Caster. For group stage, Bo1's are sufficient.

Predictions:
A:
1. Ice
2. Jazbas
3. YYJ
4. Targa

B:
1. Filthy
2. Kowi
3. iaguz
4. Revenant

C:
1. Redarchon
2. Jesse
3. Aaron
4. Refallen

D:
1. Edge
2. Roz
3. Oxygen
4. Fah

**sheepy** · Thu, 24th-Mar-2011, 8:51 AM

My predictions

Group A
1.ice
2.JazBas
3.YYJ
4.Targa

Group B
1. Kowi
2. Filthy
3. Revenant
4. Iaguz

Group C
1.EVENLY matched group i have no idea

Group D
1. Oxygen
2. Edge or Roz

Tourney favourite: Ice

Yoz · Thu, 24th-Mar-2011, 10:24 AM

And despite not following the SEA SC2 Scene at all lately, I thought I would throw in my 2c because I can.

Group 1: ice / yyj
It seems as though ice is the clear choice in this group based on previous tournament experience although I haven't seen most of these players lately. I'm not sure how much these guys will prepare, but yyj will have a much easier time preparing for Z/Z/Z than the others who will be splitting their preparations.

Group 2: filthy / revenant
Filthy is pretty much a baller. Seriously, who doesn't tip the astronaut? Not sure how Kowi has been playing lately, but I think Revenant is more motivated and will prac harder than Kowi which will lead to a win. Kowi might be saved by the fact that PvZ is possibly the most broken matchup at the moment.

Group 3: redarchon / jesse
Can't go past RedArchon in this group, and I think that Refallen's PvP will give aaron a better chance. However, unless aaron has changed his style up lately I feel it's too predictable.. It's a strong 4-gate but I think jesse will be able to pick it off with his random. Wouldn't be at all surprised if this group ends up in a tie.

Group 4: edge / roz
Always thought EdgE was one of the most underrated players from Australia especially when I feel Roz and Oxygen are given more hype due to their standings in their individual countries rather than SEA Overall. It's not to say these players are better/worse but I think they are more known while EdgE gets overshadowed by people like Moonglade. As far as I know, lately Roz has been playing Korea while I actually thought Oxygen quit SC2 (guess I was wrong) and I know nothing about Fah.

Tourney Winner: filthy
I'm going to go out on a limb and say filthy takes the tournament... I'm going to look mega dumb if he doesn't go past group. Smart player who understands the games he plays, innovates pretty well (will help in the longer series) and micros like a beast.

deL · Thu, 24th-Mar-2011, 12:22 PM

Dox. Koreans have nothing to do but play the game and they get paid for it - you can't expect anywhere near the same flexibility for people who often have a job + uni on top of their gaming. Especially on SEA.

Fatigue is a factor yes (though I don't agree that having a nap makes any different, it can actually make you more tired), but seeing it is on weekdays there's not much choice. If this were on a weekend I am sure it would be something like midday or early afternoon Singapore time.

Dox is right though, Bo3 is the way to go. You're already losing some legitimacy tot he tournament without GLaDe. It would look really bad if the next 2-3 favourite seeds were knocked out by Bo1 shenanigans to some retarded player. You can't compare this with OSL/MSL because Korea has a lot more depth than SEA and BW is a much more refined game with less chance for big upsets. Similarly with DreamHack etc it's a field where like every player would have a reasonable chance of winning and not many people would be surprised. Here, however, it would be quite an upset if anyone outside of 2-3 guys won it.

PREDICTIONS

My predictions are quite similar to Yoz really.

Group 1: YoonYJ + iceiceice
I have some doubts about ice as I know his practice has not been up to scratch lately with work and army commitments. In contrast Yoon has been practicing for the big Sydney LAN and should be in top form. I would not be surprised if JazBas makes an appearance at the top of the group, especially with ZvZ.

Group 2: FXOFilthy + inF
I think Filthy is a class above everyone in this group, and has been practicing quite hard. Kowi played poorly in the GSL World Championship qualifiers with some dubious decisionmaking and macro so I think Revenant could edge him out here.

Group 3: NeoRedArchon + aLtAaron
Despite RA getting his arse handed to him by SEn, he is still top dog in this group alongside Aaron. I could see Jesse taking one of the qualifier spots off one of these two though with some well executed "strategic risk assessment" tactics.

Group 4: TAEdgE + Fah
Fah was really impressive in the Code A events and I can't go past him here, especially in what is essentially a group custom made to send EdgE straight to the finals. Having said that, I can see OxygeN or Roz cheesing their way in. I'd be very surprised if anything else happened.

Hard to go past Yoz's pick of Filthy to take this tournament out, especially in the reduced latency of the SEA server from his home in Western Australia - so close to Singapore. His NA and Korea practice as well as great connections to mOOnGLaDe and friends for practice means he is one of the favourites for this whole event. Other favourites include RedArchon, Aaron, EdgE and YoonYJ. Also ice if he has been practicing enough. If someone not in that list wins I'd be very, very surprised or there was a lot of cheese.

YJY · Thu, 24th-Mar-2011, 2:57 PM

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Originally Posted by deL

Dox. Koreans have nothing to do but play the game and they get paid for it - you can't expect anywhere near the same flexibility for people who often have a job + uni on top of their gaming. Especially on SEA.

Fatigue is a factor yes (though I don't agree that having a nap makes any different, it can actually make you more tired), but seeing it is on weekdays there's not much choice. If this were on a weekend I am sure it would be something like midday or early afternoon Singapore time.

Dox is right though, Bo3 is the way to go. You're already losing some legitimacy tot he tournament without GLaDe. It would look really bad if the next 2-3 favourite seeds were knocked out by Bo1 shenanigans to some retarded player. You can't compare this with OSL/MSL because Korea has a lot more depth than SEA and BW is a much more refined game with less chance for big upsets. Similarly with DreamHack etc it's a field where like every player would have a reasonable chance of winning and not many people would be surprised. Here, however, it would be quite an upset if anyone outside of 2-3 guys won it.

PREDICTIONS

My predictions are quite similar to Yoz really.

Group 1: YoonYJ + iceiceice
I have some doubts about ice as I know his practice has not been up to scratch lately with work and army commitments. In contrast Yoon has been practicing for the big Sydney LAN and should be in top form. I would not be surprised if JazBas makes an appearance at the top of the group, especially with ZvZ.

Group 2: FXOFilthy + inF
I think Filthy is a class above everyone in this group, and has been practicing quite hard. Kowi played poorly in the GSL World Championship qualifiers with some dubious decisionmaking and macro so I think Revenant could edge him out here.

Group 3: NeoRedArchon + aLtAaron
Despite RA getting his arse handed to him by SEn, he is still top dog in this group alongside Aaron. I could see Jesse taking one of the qualifier spots off one of these two though with some well executed "strategic risk assessment" tactics.

Group 4: TAEdgE + Fah
Fah was really impressive in the Code A events and I can't go past him here, especially in what is essentially a group custom made to send EdgE straight to the finals. Having said that, I can see OxygeN or Roz cheesing their way in. I'd be very surprised if anything else happened.

Hard to go past Yoz's pick of Filthy to take this tournament out, especially in the reduced latency of the SEA server from his home in Western Australia - so close to Singapore. His NA and Korea practice as well as great connections to mOOnGLaDe and friends for practice means he is one of the favourites for this whole event. Other favourites include RedArchon, Aaron, EdgE and YoonYJ. Also ice if he has been practicing enough. If someone not in that list wins I'd be very, very surprised or there was a lot of cheese.

practicing? what's practicing mean? this is fun, never seen so many people critisize my tvz xD

ROOT`iaguz · Thu, 24th-Mar-2011, 9:47 PM

Hmm, not looking forward to my group at all. I haven't played these people in ages but the smart money is they are all ******* good players (especially Filthy. I remember that guy back in the day. ****, he was so good) and I don't stand too much of a chance against them. Ah well, gotta try, right?

Better start practicing my Bit by Bit style. Or at least 'winning' the Code A playoffs so I can get some cash outta all this.

**cure** · Fri, 25th-Mar-2011, 8:38 AM

Phoenix's format really sounds good. Voting Bo3 for the more entertaining games too

Predictions:
A:
1. Ice
2. YYJ
3. Jazbas
4. Targa

B:
1. Revenant
2. Kowi
3. Filthy
4. iaguz

C:
1. RedArchon
2. Jesse
3. Aaron
4. Refallen

D:
1. Edge
2. Roz
3. Oxygen
4. Fah

**nirvAnA** · Sat, 26th-Mar-2011, 1:27 AM

Updated OP with player profiles of Code A winners.

The format for group stage has been changed to bo3 and will stretch over 2 weeks instead of 1. Final details/schedule will be worked out over the weekend and will be released on Sunday.

**HDPhoenix** · Sat, 26th-Mar-2011, 2:20 AM

Cheers Nirvana

**kellyMILKIES** · Sat, 26th-Mar-2011, 10:13 AM

Targa I like you for 2 reason:

Quote:

Favourite Song:Rebecca Black - Friday
Best Starcraft 2 player in SEA?: Moon-glade

But mostly for the first

**kellyMILKIES** · Sat, 26th-Mar-2011, 10:18 AM

My predictions

Group A:
iceiceice
yyj

Group B:
Kowi
Revenant

Group C:
RedArchon
Aaron

Group D:
Edge
Roz
- Unless Oxygen stops playing DOTA and practises, I don't see him winning these 2 ladder fiends.
If he does practise, I see Roz and Oxygen proceeding. Because Zerg is heartbreak race.

UncleTom · Sat, 26th-Mar-2011, 10:25 AM

Predictions:
A:
1. Ice
2. Targa
3. Yoon
4. Jazbaz

B:
1. Kowi
2. Revenant
3. Filthy
4. iaguz

C:
1. RedArchon
2. Aaron
3. Jesse
4. Refallen

D:
1. Edge
2. 0xygen
3. Roz
4. Fah

**TAEdgE** · Sat, 26th-Mar-2011, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kellyMILKIES

My predictions

Group A:
iceiceice
yyj

Group B:
Kowi
Revenant

Group C:
RedArchon
Aaron

Group D:
Edge
Roz
- Unless Oxygen stops playing DOTA and practises, I don't see him winning these 2 ladder fiends.
If he does practise, I see Roz and Oxygen proceeding. Because Zerg is heartbreak race.

Have faith kelly, have faith!

**nirvAnA** · Sun, 27th-Mar-2011, 1:57 AM

Code S Begins This Week!!! Schedule for Group Stage is as follows.

Week 1
Monday 7pm SGT / 10pm Sydney - Group 4 Match 1,2,3
Tuesday 7pm SGT / 10pm Sydney - Group 4 Match 4,5,6
Casters for this group: kelly + champi http://www.justin.tv/kellymilkies/

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Wednesday 5pm SGT / 8pm Sydney - Group 2 Match 1,2,3
Thursday 5pm SGT / 8pm Sydney - Group 2 Match 4,5,6
Casters for this group: benji + xeen http://www.justin.tv/benjisc2

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Note:

Kowi has been uncontactable for the past week and has been replaced by nGenLight
The timings were made according to the players availablity so the groups are not played in order. i.e Group 4 goes first.
Also if there are 3 players in SEA it starts at 7pm SGT /10pm Sydney and if there are 3 ANZ players it starts at 5pm SGT / 8pm Sydney - This is because some SEA players have a problem with making it at 5pm SGT.
The monday/tues matches coincide with the GSL korea vs foreigner finals but i dont see a solution for that but this will be a good gauge/test to know many viewers we will lose if we clash with gsl timings.

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