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**Dox** · Tue, 2nd-Oct-2012, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MFiaguz

If there's no prizes, will the iM/Nv boys even bother showing up lol?

Flights and accommodation have been booked for a long time, can't avoid it now. Disappointing though.

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ToR.Arnor:

How does Flights and Accom for JazBas and Glade cost $4000? O.o

**iM tgun** · Tue, 2nd-Oct-2012, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MFiaguz

If there's no prizes, will the iM/Nv boys even bother showing up lol?

Just send the people who reside in Sydney.. aka most of iM ;P

**inFeZa** · Wed, 3rd-Oct-2012, 12:32 AM

Make this a whole new discussion thread please

Another · Wed, 3rd-Oct-2012, 12:53 AM

i kinda hope dox is wrong on bracket, poor pet going to play mafia first round, mafia is the bane of his existence atm

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	Dox:	bracket was posted hours ago man! check the OP :D
	ROOTPetraeus:	ya mafia imba :P

**syfChadMann** · Wed, 3rd-Oct-2012, 1:36 AM

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Originally Posted by IrisAnother

i kinda hope dox is wrong on bracket, poor pet going to play mafia first round, mafia is the bane of his existence atm

they were brackets dox made that reflected ACL Career points - but this event is mostly seeded by the qualifiers for the event.

The bracket has been generated - here: http://challonge.com/ebexposc2

**inFeZa** · Wed, 3rd-Oct-2012, 1:29 AM

SHOW UP FOR THE LOVE OF THE GAME MATE.

I do it every time with 100% chance of not winning anything.

ROOT`iaguz · Wed, 3rd-Oct-2012, 1:31 AM

Bullshit infeza, you show up cuz you're the observer...

http://challonge.com/ebexposc2 this is the real brackets. Pet has to make it in 2 rounds before he hits mafia. Also wtf was this seeded look at top half compared to bottom half lol.

Ah well. Can't complain. Gotta get me that ticket to France one way or another.

Anyway, few more questions. What times do the games start and (expect) to end? Also how do we get inside the venue, shouldn't we require some sort of pass or some such?

**iM tgun** · Wed, 3rd-Oct-2012, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MFiaguz

Bullshit infeza, you show up cuz you're the observer...

http://challonge.com/ebexposc2 this is the real brackets. Pet has to make it in 2 rounds before he hits mafia. Also wtf was this seeded look at top half compared to bottom half lol.

Ah well. Can't complain. Gotta get me that ticket to France one way or another.

Anyway, few more questions. What times do the games start and (expect) to end? Also how do we get inside the venue, shouldn't we require some sort of pass or some such?

Looks well-balanced to me o-o

Edit: Agreed pet, you're on my side. W/O ez

Edit 2: How do we get into the expo / into the badgery pavillion?

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ROOTPetraeus:

well we did get the slightly easier side, tgun :p

**inFeZa** · Wed, 3rd-Oct-2012, 1:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MFiaguz

Bullshit infeza, you show up cuz you're the observer...

Yeah... Exactly! I don't win anything and i can't T__T

If i did play i'd win everytime coz no1 can beat my pvz

Another · Wed, 3rd-Oct-2012, 2:41 AM

oh my bad i didnt look at OP lol dox, hmmm bracket seems pretty even tbh, sad that the 2 terran hopes have to play each other round 1 : ( but seems good spread of the zerg powerhouses

x5_Bard · Wed, 3rd-Oct-2012, 6:26 AM

How am I seeded below people that were given spots due to pullouts when I qualified properly? Seems a little unfair. Not that it would change my first round opponent being a beast though

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	TAEdgE:	ACL career points..
	nirvAnA:	nearly everyone is hard bro lol!

FS.Kezz · Wed, 3rd-Oct-2012, 6:55 AM

Damn, Rossi vs Iaguz in Round 1, bittersweet as all hell.

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ROOT`iaguz:

It's the one ACL mandatory streamed TvT the tournament.

Norksman · Wed, 3rd-Oct-2012, 7:35 AM

@Bard/Iaguz - We made it clear to players both before and during the qualifiers that your placement determined your seeding, however if you chose to forfeit your matches, you would forfeit your seeding also.

The tournament starts at 10am per this thread. There will be a player manual sent out to the players to cover a lot of these details also. I thought they had already been sent, I'll chase up an ETA on those.

Edit: Hopefully the player manuals (which will detail access to venue etc) will go out today.

x5_Bard · Wed, 3rd-Oct-2012, 9:56 AM

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Originally Posted by fray`EdgE

ACL career points..

Nah, I've actually got a few of them.

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We made it clear to players both before and during the qualifiers that your placement determined your seeding, however if you chose to forfeit your matches, you would forfeit your seeding also.

That makes more sense. I wasn't aware I had forfeited my seeding, I was just under the impression that I would get seeded as per a 9th/16th slot. I just found it odd that people who technically finished lower than me got a higher seed. Which in hindsight makes no difference at all!

Norksman · Wed, 3rd-Oct-2012, 6:07 PM

Beware has sent out to all players detailing a bunch of information re: entry to the event.

All qualified players should check the email they signed up with!

NvRossi · Wed, 3rd-Oct-2012, 6:32 PM

No mention of prizes yet again in the email..

How can this be promoted as the National Championship Crowning tournament and there be literally no reward for 2nd, 3rd...

IF the prizes are TLS's fault, can we get a comment from them regarding this?

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Originally Posted by ACL Beware

2012 ACL National Finals:
Due to the enormous event that is the EB Expo E-Sports tournament Australian Cyber League will not be hosting another LAN event for 2012. While the EB Expo E-Sports event is not an ACL event, ACL will still crown our 2012 champions from placements in this tournament! You will still get to see all your friendly ACL staff at the event making sure all our regular tournaments are run smoothly.

NvRossi · Wed, 3rd-Oct-2012, 6:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NvRossi

No mention of prizes yet again in the email..

How can this be promoted as the National Championship Crowning tournament and there be literally no reward for 2nd, 3rd...

IF the prizes are TLS's fault, can we get a comment from them regarding this?

Also, this also indicates that our ACL Career points for the year have been completely useless as it was always understood they would be required to qualify for the national championship.

**ACL Beware** · Wed, 3rd-Oct-2012, 7:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NvRossi

Also, this also indicates that our ACL Career points for the year have been completely useless as it was always understood they would be required to qualify for the national championship.

I understand your frustration mate. It was originally intended that ACL would run their own event for the National Finals, however we had a chance to help make a EB Expo E-Sports a good event and we took it. Every single year before this we have always had our own National Finals, I know this is somewhat irrelevant and doesn't help you now but just further proving that this is a first time for us. As this is not an ACL event we could not use our season points to award players straight up qualification for the event. Sorry mate.

NvRossi · Wed, 3rd-Oct-2012, 7:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ACL Beware

I understand your frustration mate. It was originally intended that ACL would run their own event for the National Finals, however we had a chance to help make a EB Expo E-Sports a good event and we took it. Every single year before this we have always had our own National Finals, I know this is somewhat irrelevant and doesn't help you now but just further proving that this is a first time for us. As this is not an ACL event we could not use our season points to award players straight up qualification for the event. Sorry mate.

Thanks for the response buddy

**syfChadMann** · Wed, 3rd-Oct-2012, 7:21 PM

How can we ensure TLS doesn't **** up more events in the future?.. they are 2 from 2 with **** ups so far.. why do we still have them organising or being involved in events?!?!?