[Dox]

Originally Posted by |Erasmus|

Dox did actually say there was standing room on System's podcast last week...

System said, "I assume" and I said "I think there's standing room as well" with a follow up comment saying, "I'll dig it up and post it tomorrow."

[|Erasmus|]

Originally Posted by Dox

System said, "I assume" and I said "I think there's standing room as well" with a follow up comment saying, "I'll dig it up and post it tomorrow."

I didn't see any post saying 'actually, there is no standing room', and a bunch of people continuing to talk about additional space.

I'm just saying, if I'd known there was nothing without a ticket I'd have carved it into my ******* arm to make sure I remembered so I could go see Tastosis...

[Dox]

Originally Posted by |Erasmus|

I didn't see any post saying 'actually, there is no standing room', and a bunch of people continuing to talk about additional space.

I'm just saying, if I'd known there was nothing without a ticket I'd have carved it into my ******* arm to make sure I remembered so I could go see Tastosis...

Yep. As it turned out I followed up the U18 thing instead. Place 100% of your blame on me, I can take it.

[|Erasmus|]

Originally Posted by Dox

Yep. As it turned out I followed up the U18 thing instead. Place 100% of your blame on me, I can take it.

I try not to sound like a dick when I say this, but when you get on System's podcast with a big label saying "@ACLDox" and say "Yeah, there's standing room, I'll follow up on how much", my first instinct is to believe that you are an official source of information regarding an ACL run event.

All the other information is somewhat ambiguous, getting express entry, guaranteed seats etc. NOTHING implied that without a ticket you're left out in the cold until Vanzr posted in this thread saying so after the tickets are handed out.

You know how pumped I was about this event, yelling at everyone to go keep bumping the WCS thread on TL to try and get more views. You probably realise how disappointed I am to find out this information is wrong and I have to hope I get accepted as a volunteer to get in (and they'll more than likely prioritize people who say they've booked flights and hotels over me for that, sadly).

I don't view this as 100% your fault, but I will say that you have a lot of trust from a lot of people here, and are seen as an official and generally reliable source of information for these events. If you get it wrong, most of the time people will just believe you, as has happened here.

[breadfan]

Originally Posted by |Erasmus|

I didn't see any post saying 'actually, there is no standing room', and a bunch of people continuing to talk about additional space.

I'm just saying, if I'd known there was nothing without a ticket I'd have carved it into my ******* arm to make sure I remembered so I could go see Tastosis...

This is a big point. There are people out there who were under the impression that even if they didn't get a ticket, worst case scenario they could still turn up on the day and at least get in. People do act differently in my case. As I said, I luckily logged on to SC2SEA at just the right moment. I didn't bother to set an alarm or anything - why bother? I understood entry was pretty much guaranteed for at least standing areas.

Of course, if you say "venue capacity 300 maximum, that is it, no standing area" I put an alarm in my phone, in gmail, I spraypaint it on my walls and get it tattooed on my forehead, and arrange to head in to work later so that I don't forget to be online ready to smash that register button. Especially having already paid for my airline tickets. I know lots of others who also already paid to fly, but haven't managed any.

It's not to say blame lies solely with the ACL guys - I mean, everyone had the same understanding and same warning, but it is definitely a lesson to be learned. This is a freak of an event, and unfortunately there is this one hiccup with the communication of information. I have to say I actually think Vanzr has responded pretty well to the whole thing, and kudos to the guy for trying to make sure things are right with people who bought tickets. At the end of the day, he and the ACL management could just say "look, sorry guys, this is how it is" and not do anything. But they are going out of their way to make things right the best way possible.

Everyone has a right to feel frustrated, and people shouldn't be slagged off for venting this. It's not fair to just say "it's your own fault" or potentially far worse. But at the same time, a little bit of love to the guys who are copping the venting, taking it in stride, and trying to turn any issues around

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	Flamga:	Exactly how I feel thanks! :)
	iM MaFia:	summed it up well
	Asrathiel:	Well said :)
	FvRphoneheha:	Y

[SLCN.Kez]

Dunno why people are so surprised that if they didn't get a ticket then they magically can't go. It's unfortunate and it sucks, but it's no one else' fault but your own.

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x5_dot:

people thought there was standing room

[Flamga]

So you are saying a LOT of people have booked flights over, and if they were unable to get a ticket like this then they will not be allowed into the venue?

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iMSystem:

Vanz said if you had already booked flights and such PM him abd

[Dox]

Originally Posted by FlashFlamga

So you are saying a LOT of people have booked flights over, and if they were unable to get a ticket like this then they will not be allowed into the venue?

That's actually the complete opposite of what VaNzR said.

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	EveTechtron:	are you the batman of esports?
	NOM:	http://youtu.be/U6MPNzIA44s

[Flamga]

Originally Posted by Dox

That's actually the complete opposite of what VaNzR said.

Ok now that I read again I do apologise, next question is when do we get notification if we managed to register, as I managed the saturday however havent recieved anything in my emails.

[Shinkz]

Originally Posted by FlashFlamga

Ok now that I read again I do apologise, next question is when do we get notification if we managed to register, as I managed the saturday however havent recieved anything in my emails.

I received all my emails within about 10 minutes of registration. Perhaps check junk mail?

[Flamga]

Originally Posted by Shinkz

I received all my emails within about 10 minutes of registration. Perhaps check junk mail?

Nothing :/ well regardless I have my name on the registration so I am hoping at least I can get a fix on that, I hope to god I spelt my email wrong lol

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	breadfan:	Mine took quite a while to come through. Mail server might have been hammered? idk
	x5_dot:	didn't you get to a page that allowed you to print anyway?

[iMSystem]

Originally Posted by FlashFlamga

So you are saying a LOT of people have booked flights over, and if they were unable to get a ticket like this then they will not be allowed into the venue?

Comment thing bugged out.

Vanz said that if you have booked flights and such and missed out on getting a ticket just send him a PM and he could perhaps sort something out.

Not sure what it means but best to PM and find out

[VB_WhiplashJC]

Only 300 tickets -> you guys fucked up.

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inFeZa:

not the way to view it

[Dox]

Originally Posted by VB_WhiplashJC

Only 300 tickets -> you guys fucked up.

We can't exactly offer more tickets than the venue can hold.

[VB_WhiplashJC]

Originally Posted by Dox

We can't exactly offer more tickets than the venue can hold.

Sorry.

The selected venue is too small -> only 300 tickets -> you guys fucked up.

[Dox]

Originally Posted by VB_WhiplashJC

Sorry.

The selected venue is too small -> only 300 tickets -> you guys fucked up.

The venue (see original post in April) was locked in long before Tastosis. We only received an influx of people suddenly deciding to attend after Tastosis were announced. Prior to that, people weren't really interested, and I'm certain we would not have filled up the venue.

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	Flamga:	Maybe earlier ticket sales then? I was booked to come down well before it. I suppose that is my biggest issue
	mGGDrGooSe:	The majority of flow would have come late anyway. You know how people are.

[iMSystem]

Originally Posted by VB_WhiplashJC

Only 300 tickets -> you guys fucked up.

Haha, while I have no affiation with ACL and any thoughts on how WCS was organized but I assume they booked the venue before the international casters were organized, in which case they are unable to change venues etc.

I can assure you if ACL had organized the casters before finalizing the venue, they would have changed places.

[breadfan]

Originally Posted by iMSystem

Haha, while I have no affiation with ACL and any thoughts on how WCS was organized but I assume they booked the venue before the international casters were organized, in which case they are unable to change venues etc.

I can assure you if ACL had organized the casters before finalizing the venue, they would have changed places.

Clearly, we need to blame blizzard for bringing Tastosis to Australia. Bastards.

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iMSystem:

Blizzard hurting eSports

[TACeeSerps]

Saturday 11am: Doors Open! Ticket holders have express entry through to the viewing area.
*
This is taken directly from the ACL website. So what does express entry mean if no one else is allowed in?
Do we get to skip the volunteer and media line? Does it mean that we get express entry over the casters and players?
*
I don't mean to be rude about it, but the attitude of "tough shit" actually offended me.

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Asrathiel:

Hmm, 'Express Entry' wording IS somewhat misleading there

[VB_WhiplashJC]

How was registration done? Am I going to be offered a ticket for $50 from someone who claimed 50 of them, or is the ticket for the purchaser only and ID required?