[Sk3tch]

Im gold so my mechanics are meh, and I am generally meh. However everytime I go up against protoss I kind of just die even with a bigger army with more upgrades toss just do so much damage and I die. The stats at the end of this game show me ahead in every way. yet I lose and I can see I have shit engagements thats one reason. But are there specific reasons I don't get?? Help

http://drop.sc/327451

[Mbewa]

I've found FilterSC's HoTS Bronze to Masters series pretty helpful for mechanics specifically.

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Worth a look.

[ChowMuddha]

TvP is unfortunately like that and its a pretty big hurdle for any lower league terran, one wrong engagement and thats pretty much gg for the terran, i myself had struggled with it for a long time and still have some degree of difficulty in engaging a double aoe toss army if i dont get awesome emps off.

Also having solid mechanics helps alot

I recommend using this thread to provide you with a perspective of unit composition in the lategame.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...opic_id=402751
but in terms of engagements i suggest looking at replays of the pros and note how they emp the high templar and blanket emps their entire army (if they can) before the big battle, the formation of the terrans army it will most likely be an arc to reduce colosus splash and get maximum dps and how they peel back groups of bio that are being stormed/ or kiting chargelots but with hellbats in your comp as well they should soak up speed zealots

good luck

[Sk3tch]

thanks guys, just shits me having to control like 3 control groups (ghosts,vikings,MMM,) worth of army well to live against a protoss who builds collosi and then get storm. And macro at the same time, at gold level that is just hard and protoss imo always have an advantage low level.

[mGGPrometheus]

If you focus on strong midgame builds, you will only need to deal with one of storm or colossus. I would recommend 5rax before 3rd builds so you can practice with midgame micro and gradually advance to lategame micro. Also check the end of day9 daily on hero's recent pvt where he talks about tvp positioning

[chlippry]

I agree with Prometheus. mid game protoss is the easiest time that I find to defeat them. I would also suggest as Mbewa said, watch filterSC's videos. they were very helpful for me even to get your macro just that little bit better. Ive had the most success with TvP by doing the same style as FilterSC, but going for 2 techlab'ed barracks and just the one reactor. focusing on Marauder play with concussion shell, and then a 10minute attack. I've attached a quick video demonstrating the style I normally use again Protoss

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im currently sitting in Silver league, but playing this style carried me to top gold in WoL

[water666]

i think early pressure is the key i like the 12/12 reaper expand in reactor rax etc sets u up for harass, scouting and good 9-10 min push army which can win alot spesh if their being cute

[SLCN.StoicWilly]

just go 1 rax expand into 3 rax then double gas, then get stim and keep pumping marines and marauders. 1 reactor and 2 tech lab then get 2 more rax and 1 more reactor and tech lab. once they are done move out with around 4 medivac and pull some scv and u usually will win if you have more stuff then him.

[chlippry]

Originally Posted by Myth.StoicWilly

just go 1 rax expand into 3 rax then double gas, then get stim and keep pumping marines and marauders. 1 reactor and 2 tech lab then get 2 more rax and 1 more reactor and tech lab. once they are done move out with around 4 medivac and pull some scv and u usually will win if you have more stuff then him.

exactly! thats the build i use against protoss. and if you see colossi, start a round of vikings asap!

[DeathlyJO]

Originally Posted by Sk3tch

thanks guys, just shits me having to control like 3 control groups (ghosts,vikings,MMM,) worth of army well to live against a protoss who builds collosi and then get storm. And macro at the same time, at gold level that is just hard and protoss imo always have an advantage low level.

You can actually control group ur vikings to ur MMM ball and ghost to another. if u need to stutterstep ur mmm just ctrl click on ur marines and marauder then stutter and let the medivac fly on its own.

[pulsePsych]

Got into GM just because of using Mech. Try using Mech in TvP, it's good. Hellbat/Tank (+Ghosts in lategame with the excess of Gas/Minerals)

I'll try to put a replay later.

[ToRSpookToR]

Originally Posted by mGGPrometheus

If you focus on strong midgame builds, you will only need to deal with one of storm or colossus. I would recommend 5rax before 3rd builds so you can practice with midgame micro and gradually advance to lategame micro. Also check the end of day9 daily on hero's recent pvt where he talks about tvp positioning

read: All in protoss before they have storm and colo

[DeathlyJO]

Originally Posted by Av.ToRSpook

read: All in protoss before they have storm and colo

U can do that but how high is the risk?

[jayaiwhy]

Originally Posted by DeathlyJO

U can do that but how high is the risk?

FXONeeb does it every game, and is in Challenger league now so hehehehehe

[DeathlyJO]

Originally Posted by jayaiwhy

FXONeeb does it every game, and is in Challenger league now so hehehehehe

Hmmm ok shall all in every tvp on kr server. ^^