[Fenner]

Hi MensA, nice to meet you!

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iM yang:

Stop being so cute! :D

[NvRossi]

its easy not to remember being a **** to someone, i am good at that. However there are alot of people that do remember you being a **** to them. Thats obviously where the hate is coming from.

and it was more like, wait a second this foreigner that we haven't heard of is GM on Korea? oh wait this foreigner is Mensa? yea nah....

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TAEdgE:

'yea nah' hope to see this in more rossi posts

[iM tgun]

Originally Posted by MensA

You're right, sorry. I felt a bit defensive because I was being attacked and being called a liar. But yeah I didn't have to say that, my fault T_T

If I could give rep, I'd give you positive rep -- Never had any bad run-ins with you, so you're ok in my books.

[ShinyA]

Originally Posted by TARossi

its easy not to remember being a **** to someone, i am good at that. However there are alot of people that do remember you being a **** to them. Thats obviously where the hate is coming from.

and it was more like, wait a second this foreigner that we haven't heard of is GM on Korea? oh wait this foreigner is Mensa? yea nah....

I mean obviously I've pissed people off, believe what you want but I don't remember being that much of an asshole but it's not a coincidence that everyone hates me. I get that but at the same time I feel like it's extremely exaggerated. Even in what you just said, why would my skill ever be in question? If I'm known for just being a completely and utter douchebag that has nothing to do with whether or not I'm GM on KR or not but immediately you guys jump on to that as if I'm lying for no reason.

[NvRossi]

Because some of us myself included feel we have a general indication of your skill level believe you're not Korean GM level and that you're lying for no reason?

[ShinyA]

Originally Posted by TARossi

Because some of us myself included feel we have a general indication of your skill level believe you're not Korean GM level and that you're lying for no reason?

See, like how does that not feel like you're attacking me? I don't mean this in any sort of bad manner but when I was playing on SEA that season I beat almost every one of the top players on SEA at one point, in tournaments not just ladder. Not to mention you guys haven't had any sort of interaction with me in over a year. Why would you have that assumption? You don't feel that's a little bit biased?

Also, thanks for unbanning me from TS, I appreciated it. It seems RiiChard doesn't forgive me or w/e since he just banned me again

[dippa]

hi mensa

*waves*

**** off now

*waves*

[TAEdgE]

I think people are still underrating how HARD getting Korean GM is. Sure, a few more foreigners now are getting it such as NightEnD who you wouldn't put in the top 10 outside of Korea but still it is so hard to get and yet you've apparently achieved it and your skill makes you around top 20 foreigner in the world.

Like, i've never seen 'Classic' make waves in any online tournaments or clan wars (correct me if i am wrong.) It's easy to see why people are skeptical of your actual skill level when the proof is a sick good record of an account that doesn't actually have a GM insignia on sc2ranks. For what it's worth, my Masters account last season was 60-34 on KR and that's what a high masters player can get with default MMR. I still feel no where close to GM and if i got it, wouldn't deserve it.

Every top player on SEA has beaten every other top player on SEA too pretty much nowadays, and you never won any of the go4sc2 tourneys or anything so it's just ladder wins where i'm sure a lot of those players beat you back.

I don't dislike you by the way, just talking about skill.

[NvRossi]

Its just my opinion, sorry if i hurt you're ego, but i still highly doubt you were ever GM on Korea. Its not a big deal.

But yea i unbanned and rebanned you as i feel its probably for the best for now

[Bloodmyst]

Errrrr, hmmmm.

Dude, if you've been a jackass to someone and they don't like you... Guess what!?!?! You can't expect to give a half hearted apology and expect everything is going to be honky dory! From what I've made out on the last few of your posts, I keep seeing the word/s "GM." No offense dude, but no one gives a flying f^*k what your rank is.

But I will let you in on a little secret, it also helps in life too. Never lie, no one likes a liar.

I don't know why people be hatin' on you and I don't know you, or have anything against you. But from what I've made out from the thread so far, you were probably better off minding your own business just enjoying yourself and playing the game.

TLDR; "If" you are, stop speaking sh^t.... and get on with it. Don't try to create a "sympathy" thread.

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	zenabi:	just for saying honky dory ♥
	syfCabracan:	I wouldn't say never lie, It's the most fun you can have with ur clothes on.

[ShinyA]

Originally Posted by EdgE

I think people are still underrating how HARD getting Korean GM is. Sure, a few more foreigners now are getting it such as NightEnD who you wouldn't put in the top 10 outside of Korea but still it is so hard to get and yet you've apparently achieved it and your skill makes you around top 20 foreigner in the world.

Like, i've never seen 'Classic' make waves in any online tournaments or clan wars (correct me if i am wrong.) It's easy to see why people are skeptical of your actual skill level when the proof is a sick good record of an account that doesn't actually have a GM insignia on sc2ranks. For what it's worth, my Masters account last season was 60-34 on KR and that's what a high masters player can get with default MMR.

I rarely play SC2 and when I do I usually have success. I came back for a couple months, got GM on all my accounts and played loads and recently kind of stopped playing again. Normally though I just make money coaching / doing tutorial videos.

As far as clanwars, I played a bunch way back in like season 2 - 3 of GM , whenever that was. Also recently I beat Ostojiy in clanwar against Its GoSu in which my team won.

I still think it's stupid to jump to conclusion about someones skill who you haven't had any sort of interaction with in a year. And it wasn't as if I was trying to brag, I was asked a question. For what it's worth my Kr account was like 65-10 at one point in that season before I started offracing. ( that comes of douchebaggish , arrogant, I don't mean it that way, I'm just defending myself ).

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	Bloodmyst:	Could your e-peen get any bigger?
	x5.Revenant:	^
	NOM:	e-chode

[ShinyA]

Originally Posted by TARossi

Its just my opinion, sorry if i hurt you're ego, but i still highly doubt you were ever GM on Korea. Its not a big deal.

But yea i unbanned and rebanned you as i feel its probably for the best for now

I don't get my ego hurt, I don't care much about whether or not people believe I was GM or am. I posted my account, I can sign on that account, hell lets get on Korea we can 1;1 on that account. The only reason I'm defending myself and even trying to get things settled out is because I had a lot of fun playing with you guys in DotA and was completely surprised at the hate I got because it's never been brought to me before.

It was over a year ago and I'm greeted with so much hate for stuff that happened so long ago.

[dippa]

i was joking earlier, by the way, i don't actually know mensa.

don't go around dropping stats about your accounts though, it does more to hurt your case than help it (because as you correctly surmised, it does look douchebaggish).

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x5_Bard:

then edit it out?

[PiG]

showmatch 3x bo3 you vs glade, rossi and light to prove you can compete with the best of sea and that your claims might have some fruit.

Sound good yes?

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	Welshy:	bring all yo fruit!
	Nemo:	Grudgematch !
	nirvAnA:	excellent idea, but Mensa needs to put something at stake if not its just a free ride!
	syfCabracan:	Losers to get chobo tags?

[ShinyA]

^ Sure, if they want.

you can close this thread, it seems no one will accept an apology if I give it and I got my answers as to why there's so much hate

[TAEdgE]

Originally Posted by MensA

I rarely play SC2 and when I do I usually have success. I came back for a couple months, got GM on all my accounts and played loads and recently kind of stopped playing again. Normally though I just make money coaching / doing tutorial videos.

As far as clanwars, I played a bunch way back in like season 2 - 3 of GM , whenever that was. Also recently I beat Ostojiy in clanwar against Its GoSu in which my team won.

I still think it's stupid to jump to conclusion about someones skill who you haven't had any sort of interaction with in a year. And it wasn't as if I was trying to brag, I was asked a question. For what it's worth my Kr account was like 65-10 at one point in that season before I started offracing. ( that comes of douchebaggish , arrogant, I don't mean it that way, I'm just defending myself ).

There is no jumping to conclusion about skill. Ultimately nowadays skill is based off of 90% Tournament results and 10% ladder ranking and victories (and this is more EU/KR ladder). Someone who wants to stick by his skill so diligently and shows no modesty yet bases it off of ladder and says they go inactive a lot is pretty hard to argue against.

It's a big slap in the face at least to me too that this player that hasn't proved himself (because he never plays actively) can achieve ranks that are better than all of what this forum has achieved apart from mOOnGLaDe.

BTW i did enjoy DotA when i played with you, and thankyou for the apology

[wTlzq]

just a neutral but "So apparently everyone hates me" as Title of the thread dont seems like asking for forgiveness as compared to "Apology towards XXX" etc

saw quite a few threads about people asking for forgiveness and their OP was quite different from yours

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PiG:

[dippa]

Originally Posted by EdgE

It's a big slap in the face to at least me too that this player that hasn't proved himself (because he never plays actively) can achieve ranks that are better than all of what this forum has achieved apart from mOOnGLaDe.

something that's also worth pointing out is that despite achieving x100 more than anyone else in the region over an extended period of time, you won't see andy act like an elitist, shit on other players publicly or use his excuse to be generally bm.

i'm not singling out mensa here - like i said, don't know the guy - but it'd be nice if that attitude became a little more popular.

[Pandan]

Maybe he thinks GM means "Gold Metal" not "Grand Master" ?

[nGenLight]

You're either a liar or some one whos so incredibly up his own ass that you don't remember being a fcuking dick to people. What you done holds consequences, it's just a shame you don't bloody remember them (I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here).

You BM'd me on three seperate occassions.

I was a newbie BlueLight just starting out, you were playign Terran on your account Shinya. You made sure I know that you were a BW pro and that I was a peice of shit who deserved to die and not compete with big dogs like you, oh and then you lost.

Sometime in season 3 or 4, you were on your LzH account on SEA, found me ladder, 4gated, failed and told me what a kunt I am and you would never lose to me if this was on NA.

In one of the first IEM tournament things, you 4gated and beat me, I said "When in doubt, 4gate" as a response to what I should have done, you proceeded to get all defensive, calling me a massive ****** and a total shitkunt.

You threw in multiple racist insults now and then which I recall, but obviously I did not take it seriously as I know you are from HongKong, and is the language you probably use on the NA server, so no I don't think you are a racist, but you are one arrogant rude person who needs to learn that you can't be a **** to people, then come in and say you don't remember doing so and expect people to forgive you.

Go **** yourself.

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	ToRSpartaz:	I can understand where your coming from Ray.
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