[syfMiley]

He just keeps looking blindly at your base :/

[Fourby]

Wow just keeps looking at your base over and over, after his attack failed and he was in his base lolol

[Champi]

@Petraeus

yes i realised this as soon as i re-read my post, i have edited it out an apologise to the ons clan for my rash, quick to judge attitude. i wasnt thinking 100 percent clearly as i was mostly focused on outing the maphacker while i was posting.

[crAzerk]

Watching the replay now.

TAChampi vs onsjcapone

1:08 - Glances into fog at your base
2:04 - Glances into fog at your base
2:30 - begins 'perimeter rally' before even confirming it's your spawn location
3:40 - Glances into fog at your base
4:49- 5:00 - micros Probe to avoid your incoming Stalker which he has no vision of
5:40 - Glances into fog at your base
6:05 - Looks into fog at your incoming Zealot to attack it with STalkers
6:59 - Looks into fog at your base
7:14 - Looks into fog at your base
7:32 - Looks nito fog at your base
7:54 - Looks into fog at your base
8: 10 + many more times looking into fog at your base.

I stopped watching the replay because I thought I had enough information, and from this above data it is clear that he can't be hacking, seems perfectly legit!

+ Show +

Who are we kidding? It's extremely blatant maphack and I've added him to the confirmed hacker list in the OP

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Champi:

thanks mate :)

[wTlzq]

i told him about this thread on bnet, he says he would upload more replays.

[crAzerk]

@Izq who are you referring to? Jcapone? From the replay submitted it is conclusive that maphack was used in that game against Champi, and so his only line of defence would be something like what WillChen/Fiction tried.

I've also updated the OP with the suspected hackers from last time (e.g. Fiction, Ghost) being moved to confirmed hackers, if they want to clear their name they should post more replays as requested from before.

[wTlzq]

@craZerk i am referring to jcapone, just feel that he should be given at least a chance to explain his actions, no matter how conclusive the evidence is

edit: i swear that is a capital i you are using for my nick!!! its an LLLLLLL

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	ROOTPetraeus:	ezq <3
	crAzerk:	sorry Izq :D

[FaDeBadger]

Originally Posted by lzq

@craZerk i am referring to jcapone, just feel that he should be given at least a chance to explain his actions, no matter how conclusive the evidence is

edit: i swear that is a capital i you are using for my nick!!! its an LLLLLLL

Doesn't matter if he explains it. He still hacked, so won't be moved from the confirmed hacker list. At least that's how it should work.

[crAzerk]

@Lzq
As I've said, the only possible explanation that would 'clear' his name is if he used the Willchen defence. I don't want to spell it out here to give him an easy time, but if you wanted to know what it was just look back through this thread.

(I tried to troll you by typing an I in my rep comment on you but it doesn't appear clearly so I thought I'd just state it explicitly)

@Badger I think you typoed?
"He still hacked, so won't be moved from the confirmed hacker list. "
You mean 'will be moved' ?

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wTlzq:

:DDD

[FaDeBadger]

@crAzerk, I said he won't be moved from the hacker list. Meaning he is already there and will be staying there even if he explains why he hacked etc.

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crAzerk:

ah, gotcha

[Rockstar]

Blatant hacking. Didn't even think about trying to hide it either... Still had the audacity to GG at the end too... Has the Ons clan management been informed of the situation?

edit: He saw the council when he map hacked and knew that Champi would have an obs (which he obviously couldn't see with the maphack) for blink into his base, thats why he got his own obs out. To snipe the obs of Champi..

[Champi]

i pmed onscalcifer on b.net letting him know that onsjcampone has been added to the confirmed hackers list, and requested he let the leader of ons know, whoever that may be.

[faithHunter]

Originally Posted by lzq

@craZerk i am referring to jcapone, just feel that he should be given at least a chance to explain his actions, no matter how conclusive the evidence is

edit: i swear that is a capital i you are using for my nick!!! its an LLLLLLL

Agreed. He should at least be given a chance to explain. Who knows, maybe his/her friends got high and used his account to maphack (see what I did there?), or maybe his account got hacked by some cheater.

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nGenLight:

He didn't accuse the clan of hacking, he said he had a prejudice, *facepalm*

[TAEdgE]

Originally Posted by neozxa

Sorry, but I feel that you should refrain from accuse the entire ons clan of hacking. One of my (best) friends in the SEA server is on that clan and I feel bad for him if people started thinking that he's a hacker since he's in the ons clan just because of your statement. You should at least bring up some evidence to back your assumption.



Agreed. He should at least be given a chance to explain. Who knows, maybe his/her friends got high and used his account to maphack (see what I did there?), or maybe his account got hacked by some cheater.

he apologised...

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ROOTPetraeus:

Edgeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :D

[Champi]

@neozxa

what? i did no such thing! all i said was that i have 2 reasons to be prejudice against them, dont put words in my mouth by saying im calling them hackers.

i dont need to bring any evidence to back up an assumption i havnt made.

im entitled to be prejudice against a group of people who tried to rig a seacl line up, if u read what i said, u will find that i made sure to mention that my last statement was completely unrelated to the maphacker and the game.

please dont create drama where there is none. im sure ur friend is perfectly legit, and noone will assume a whole clan is hacking just because i found one guy who hacks within them, FaDe and SPR both had a hacker in their ranks and theyre two of the best clans in SEA.

[Nemo]

I won't do an analysis of this replay since it's clear for everyone that's a blatant Map Hack. He can then be put already, as crAzerk did, in the hacker list legitimally.

Now he has still the chance to come here and explain if he wants. He will be listned to but he should not try to lie in a "last chance" try, but says the truth or it will end even worse for him.

[faithHunter]

Originally Posted by TAChampi

@neozxa

what? i did no such thing! all i said was that i have 2 reasons to be prejudice against them, dont put words in my mouth by saying im calling them hackers.

i dont need to bring any evidence to back up an assumption i havnt made.

im entitled to be prejudice against a group of people who tried to rig a seacl line up, if u read what i said, u will find that i made sure to mention that my last statement was completely unrelated to the maphacker and the game.

please dont create drama where there is none. im sure ur friend is perfectly legit, and noone will assume a whole clan is hacking just because i found one guy who hacks within them, FaDe and SPR both had a hacker in their ranks and theyre two of the best clans in SEA.

I apologize. Thought having a prejudice and accusing is the same thing. I'll edit my post and remove that statement.

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Champi:

<3

[Exilemic]

Hi, this is ons leader. We're aware of onsjcapone's case and cleared things with him. He said that it's a matter of mannerism, but we don't think it is(no one looks at fogs just because they're bored or got nothing to do). By that, we'll kick him out of the clan.

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	Champi:
	Zealo:	♥ ons
	TAriiChard:
	Nemo:	Fair
	nirvAnA:

[Fourby]

Yeh,, the only reason that i could think of is:

if he sent in a scout (probe etc) and wasnt looking, so he goes back to see if he got some money scouts on a tech structure. But he didnt.

he could only see like a gateway and nexus, and he does it over and over and over without trying to even reveal anything first.

And why would u be looking at anything but your own ramp when you have been completely contained and think they could come for counter push.



P.S i like blink stalkers

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Champi:

i like blink stalkers too. lets blink stalkers together sometime <3

[crAzerk]

The mannerism excuse doesn't work for the Stalker-dodging by his Probe which I described.

Kudos to clan ons for your prompt response and decision