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Old Mon, 21st-Feb-2011, 10:37 PM BnetId: NEWater 870  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 7 # 1
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<== is a total Dune nerd and has read all the books.

But I digress. I think I already pointed out that she lacks professionalism, game knowledge and game sense. Her redundant rambling was an attempt to cover for her lack of knowledge and I think that has got to stop. I don't know if I'm making an erroneous analogy here but I can't help but to see parallels between the redundancies in Kelly's casting and the amount of evangelizing praise our politicians have been heaping upon our ridiculous Budget 2011.

It became painfully clear to be that she was trying to compensate for her lack of analysis of what was going on in the game, and so was it clear to me that our budget was a crock of horse manure which our politicians tried to neutralize the stink with their most puissant of praises.
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Old Mon, 21st-Feb-2011, 10:54 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: aLtkeLLy.722  Race: Location: Hatchery  Total Posts Made: 264 # 2
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<== is a total Dune nerd and has read all the books.

But I digress. I think I already pointed out that she lacks professionalism, game knowledge and game sense. Her redundant rambling was an attempt to cover for her lack of knowledge and I think that has got to stop. I don't know if I'm making an erroneous analogy here but I can't help but to see parallels between the redundancies in Kelly's casting and the amount of evangelizing praise our politicians have been heaping upon our ridiculous Budget 2011.

It became painfully clear to be that she was trying to compensate for her lack of analysis of what was going on in the game, and so was it clear to me that our budget was a crock of horse manure which our politicians tried to neutralize the stink with their most puissant of praises.
Dude you don't make sense. Stop talking.
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Old Mon, 21st-Feb-2011, 11:08 PM BnetId: NEWater 870  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 7 # 3
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Dude you don't make sense. Stop talking.
Then of course, I must apologize if you don't like criticism. It's difficult to resist the level of lovebombing around here but alas, the ostrich really is enviable, sometimes.
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Old Mon, 21st-Feb-2011, 11:15 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: aLtkeLLy.722  Race: Location: Hatchery  Total Posts Made: 264 # 4
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Then of course, I must apologize if you don't like criticism. It's difficult to resist the level of lovebombing around here but alas, the ostrich really is enviable, sometimes.
You are not even giving criticism. You just sound like you got beat by 6 pool 5 times in a row. Totally bitter, but I guess it's ok. You are new to the forum and you are wasting all your posts here. I get your point. Now go enjoy the other parts of the forum. Take care!
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Old Tue, 22nd-Feb-2011, 6:45 AM Total Posts Made: 5 # 5
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You are not even giving criticism. You just sound like you got beat by 6 pool 5 times in a row. Totally bitter, but I guess it's ok. You are new to the forum and you are wasting all your posts here. I get your point. Now go enjoy the other parts of the forum. Take care!
From that response It's obvious you don't take criticism very well. I just hope you have thick skin .

You have to admit there is a over whelming amount of criticism (mostly hate) coming from everywhere. Even in your own SEA forums. TL has a thread over 60 pages devoted to just criticism. The GOM forums are just out of control. I don't understand why people think she just needs time to improve. Kelly has had this style of casting for a long time now. I don't see it changing in less than a month.

The biggest thing that concerns me is how fast she talks during a battle. I can understand what you're saying during slow parts in the game, but once someone starts to attack I have no idea what she says. Call it stim-voice or whatever, giving it a cute name doesn't help anything. Honestly that is just the biggest problem I have, I could list many other minor things, but there is no reason they are all over the other forums.

Anyway Kelly I bet it sounds like I just got 4 gateway rushed or 6 pooled to you, but you should really think about reaching out the SC2 community somehow if you want their respect.
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Old Tue, 22nd-Feb-2011, 6:20 AM Race: Location: Colorado  Total Posts Made: 4 # 6
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Dude you don't make sense. Stop talking.
Kelly, question: Why did you name your blog "fuckslits" and where did you get the name "milkies" from?
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Old Tue, 22nd-Feb-2011, 10:30 AM BnetId: Rielle  Race: Location: Australia  Total Posts Made: 1 # 7
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<== is a total Dune nerd and has read all the books.

But I digress. I think I already pointed out that she lacks professionalism, game knowledge and game sense. Her redundant rambling was an attempt to cover for her lack of knowledge and I think that has got to stop. I don't know if I'm making an erroneous analogy here but I can't help but to see parallels between the redundancies in Kelly's casting and the amount of evangelizing praise our politicians have been heaping upon our ridiculous Budget 2011.

It became painfully clear to be that she was trying to compensate for her lack of analysis of what was going on in the game, and so was it clear to me that our budget was a crock of horse manure which our politicians tried to neutralize the stink with their most puissant of praises.
Dude you don't make sense. Stop talking.

This is actually what the above poster meant in his analogy

1 - You rambled because your game knowledge isn't very large.
2 - This rambling was redundant (not useful in any way shape or form).
3 - You are being praised for great commentating.
(analogy begins now)
4 - The 2011 Budget is a horrible failure.
5 - The politicians love the budget and are praising it as a success.

Do you understand how the original poster was making a valid point in his post?

What you (kelly) fail to realize is that criticism of you isn't based solely on you being a girl, or having a hard to understand accent or lack of game knowledge.

The issue of sex isn't an issue at all. Im a guy and would love to see more female casters.

The issue of your accent is of significant importance. You are casting in English for an English audience. If that audience cannot understand you clearly then that is a huge problem.

The issue of your game knowledge is also of significant importance. You are casting Starcraft 2 games for what is easily the grandest SC2 tournament in the world. Mistakes in casting make it difficult to enjoy a game being played. ( i think the biggest was mixing up what colour loner and august were in their game (i think it was those two players)).


What i think bothers a large section of the community is your personality. Your character.

You run a blog site called http://fuckslits.tumblr.com/. Can you please explain your choice of id there? And your nickname is Kelly MILKIES which the word milkies relates to breasts. Was there any reason why your nickname wasn't talked about during your cast? Tasteless and Artosis are referred to by their nicknames not Dan and Nick. Any reason you weren't referred to as KellyMILKIES?

So you choose to associate yourself with words like "fuckslits" and "MILKIES".

You had a post in the above blog where stated (and i quote) "I'm going to shine so ******* bright that i'm going to ******* blind you". Who are you trying to "******* blind"? (note - obviously the "*******" is a naughty word that has been censored by this forum)


You also have a blog at http://www.kellymilkies.blogspot.com/ where you titled it as ";;scadals fit for a queen". What scandals are going on? And they are fit for a Queen? Wow Queen Elizabeth II has nothing on you.

These are one of the key requirements for successful and fun casting.
You need to have the professionalism associated with GSL, easily the Grandest SC2 tournament in the world.

That is one of the problems you need to work on Kelly.


p.s. It looks like Kelly is trying to cover up some of her tracks as lots of posts in her blog sites are disappearing or being re-named/worded. I wonder if GOM made her do it?

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Old Tue, 22nd-Feb-2011, 11:00 AM Who's Who:   Race: Total Posts Made: 964 # 8
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Give her a break, she actually did alright last night.

Of course we would feel somewhat uneasy about the reduction of casting quality because we are so used to the perfect chemistry and high quality casting by Tastosis. Note that they are so good strongly due to the fact they have worked with each other for such a long time and have lots of experience. With Tasteless already helping her out significantly last night, I don't doubt her casting will be more enjoyable down the road. So she doesn't have the tip-top game knowledge(although adequate) nor the professionalism we are used to - Some would say these are criteria for casting such high profile events such as GSL, some things she says do make me cringe and her pitchy voice/accent is sometimes a little too much but towards the end of last night we could see her being much more comfortable in her role, developing chemistry with Tasteless, smiling more, and altogether not sounding half bad.

Instead of insulting her accent, why not just laugh along with it, and enjoy it. I must have laughed for 1 hour straight after hearing her say that Huk made a "Duck Shrine". If casters are meant to be provide entertainment, it is fair to say that I was entertained by her own unique way. Though of course just like the rest of us, I would like to see the the more important aspects of casting to be more refined when she has the Mic.

There are a lot of criticism about her not taking criticism well - I'm pretty sure when criticism comes in the form of 43487853737579983 posts and endless taunting, disrespect and insults, anyone would lose their cool. If anyone thinks they are saying anything new when commentating on how "bad" they think her casting is, she has heard it 4573345858773 times before, it doesn't help. Some tips, hints, help and encouragement would be so much more useful than the common "omg cant understand her wtff!!!"

Like her or not, shes casting our GSL, the best we can do is continue to support and encourage her.

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Old Tue, 22nd-Feb-2011, 3:26 PM BnetId: haCkNebuLa.757  Race: Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 126 # 9
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This is actually what the above poster meant in his analogy

1 - You rambled because your game knowledge isn't very large.
2 - This rambling was redundant (not useful in any way shape or form).
3 - You are being praised for great commentating.
(analogy begins now)
4 - The 2011 Budget is a horrible failure.
5 - The politicians love the budget and are praising it as a success.

Do you understand how the original poster was making a valid point in his post?

What you (kelly) fail to realize is that criticism of you isn't based solely on you being a girl, or having a hard to understand accent or lack of game knowledge.

The issue of sex isn't an issue at all. Im a guy and would love to see more female casters.

The issue of your accent is of significant importance. You are casting in English for an English audience. If that audience cannot understand you clearly then that is a huge problem.

The issue of your game knowledge is also of significant importance. You are casting Starcraft 2 games for what is easily the grandest SC2 tournament in the world. Mistakes in casting make it difficult to enjoy a game being played. ( i think the biggest was mixing up what colour loner and august were in their game (i think it was those two players)).


What i think bothers a large section of the community is your personality. Your character.

You run a blog site called http://fuckslits.tumblr.com/. Can you please explain your choice of id there? And your nickname is Kelly MILKIES which the word milkies relates to breasts. Was there any reason why your nickname wasn't talked about during your cast? Tasteless and Artosis are referred to by their nicknames not Dan and Nick. Any reason you weren't referred to as KellyMILKIES?

So you choose to associate yourself with words like "fuckslits" and "MILKIES".

You had a post in the above blog where stated (and i quote) "I'm going to shine so ******* bright that i'm going to ******* blind you". Who are you trying to "******* blind"? (note - obviously the "*******" is a naughty word that has been censored by this forum)


You also have a blog at http://www.kellymilkies.blogspot.com/ where you titled it as ";;scadals fit for a queen". What scandals are going on? And they are fit for a Queen? Wow Queen Elizabeth II has nothing on you.

These are one of the key requirements for successful and fun casting.
You need to have the professionalism associated with GSL, easily the Grandest SC2 tournament in the world.

That is one of the problems you need to work on Kelly.


p.s. It looks like Kelly is trying to cover up some of her tracks as lots of posts in her blog sites are disappearing or being re-named/worded. I wonder if GOM made her do it?
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Old Tue, 22nd-Feb-2011, 10:42 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: FXOUnstable.707  Total Posts Made: 170 # 10
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Before i start i feel i need to say this first

I do support kelly otherwise i wouldnt have spent HOURS upon HOURS helping her get her setup her origional streaming rig to get practice on. I wouldnt have done that if i didnt see potential, however kelly your attitude does need to be adjusted slightly, you are now being PAID to cast, so any criticism even if it seems unreasonable should be worked on to improve, im sure tasteless and artosis are there to help in any way they can and I can help when i can aswell, but please dont ever disregard a post again like you did above as he did have a very valid point.


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Im sorry but he makes complete sense, just because its using words that arent understandable to you doesnt mean its stupid. let me translate it for you people who dont understand

"But I digress. I think I already pointed out that she lacks professionalism, game knowledge and game sense. Her talking about the same things tasteless said or herself over and over was an attempt to cover for her lack of knowledge and I think that has got to stop. I don't know if I'm making an analogy people wont understand here but I can't help but to see similar things between the repetetive nature in Kelly's casting and the amount of repetetive praise politicians have been about the 2011 budget while completely ignoring its flaws intentionally trying to mislead people.

It became painfully clear to be that she was trying to compensate for her lack of analysis of what was going on in the game, and so was it clear to me that our budget was a full of bad spending etcwhich the politicians tried to make look invisible by praising the small parts that were actually good so often."


Everything he has mentioned in this is completely valid and is very easy to work on with the help that you have available to you!
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Old Tue, 22nd-Feb-2011, 1:26 AM BnetId: TAScarecrow.531  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 99 # 11
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But I digress. I think I already pointed out that she lacks professionalism, game knowledge and game sense. Her redundant rambling was an attempt to cover for her lack of knowledge and I think that has got to stop. I don't know if I'm making an erroneous analogy here but I can't help but to see parallels between the redundancies in Kelly's casting and the amount of evangelizing praise our politicians have been heaping upon our ridiculous Budget 2011.

It became painfully clear to be that she was trying to compensate for her lack of analysis of what was going on in the game, and so was it clear to me that our budget was a crock of horse manure which our politicians tried to neutralize the stink with their most puissant of praises.
Please remove the stick from your ass and drop the pretentious prose. It has to be tough living with such high standards but there's no need to vent on someone doing their best at something they love. Maybe try dropping the hate and do something productive with that intellect of yours

Basically, Kelly's casting doesn't deserve this sort of blanket criticism and to liken it to a crock of shit is just retarded.
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Old Tue, 22nd-Feb-2011, 5:41 AM BnetId: NEWater 870  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 7 # 12
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Please remove the stick from your ass and drop the pretentious prose. It has to be tough living with such high standards but there's no need to vent on someone doing their best at something they love. Maybe try dropping the hate and do something productive with that intellect of yours

Basically, Kelly's casting doesn't deserve this sort of blanket criticism and to liken it to a crock of shit is just retarded.
*shrugs* When I worked for Colosseum, it became my business to know of all aspects of gaming in the region, so I won't admit that I know everything. While I'm now focused on college and writing for The Online Citizen I still care enough about gaming when I see a train wreck waiting to happen, or to check on how my mates in Bf.Nut are faring.

But honestly, gaming in SG has barely developed past its most basic of stages and has been hampered by nonsense like Rapture Gaming incompetence in organizing WCG and the proliferation of F2P games. This latest development simply isn't the correct step forward.
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<== is a total Dune nerd and has read all the books.

But I digress. I think I already pointed out that she lacks professionalism, game knowledge and game sense. Her redundant rambling was an attempt to cover for her lack of knowledge and I think that has got to stop. I don't know if I'm making an erroneous analogy here but I can't help but to see parallels between the redundancies in Kelly's casting and the amount of evangelizing praise our politicians have been heaping upon our ridiculous Budget 2011.

It became painfully clear to be that she was trying to compensate for her lack of analysis of what was going on in the game, and so was it clear to me that our budget was a crock of horse manure which our politicians tried to neutralize the stink with their most puissant of praises.
Dude, you're tripping over your words in an attempt to sound intellectual. Just say what you want to say straight up, and at least you won't seem like an elitist arsehole.
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Old Tue, 22nd-Feb-2011, 5:45 AM BnetId: NEWater 870  Race: Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 7 # 14
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Dude, you're tripping over your words in an attempt to sound intellectual. Just say what you want to say straight up, and at least you won't seem like an elitist arsehole.
Why, thank you. I'm no stranger to being labelled an elitist from the way I speak and my usage of vocabulary, but mainly the "elitist" word pops up right away the moment people discover the sort of school I came from.

But really, excuse me for caring about gaming in Singapore. Perhaps I ought to join the men in white and have an easier life smiling and nodding while everyone enjoys their backslapping and lovebombing.
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Why, thank you. I'm no stranger to being labelled an elitist from the way I speak and my usage of vocabulary, but mainly the "elitist" word pops up right away the moment people discover the sort of school I came from.

But really, excuse me for caring about gaming in Singapore. Perhaps I ought to join the men in white and have an easier life smiling and nodding while everyone enjoys their backslapping and lovebombing.
Sure, you may be 'using vocabulary', but you're not using it well. And go ahead, draw completely random points from what I said. Because I clearly accosted you for caring about gaming in Singapore.
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Sure, you may be 'using vocabulary', but you're not using it well. And go ahead, draw completely random points from what I said. Because I clearly accosted you for caring about gaming in Singapore.
this is silly, he used perfectly appropprate vocabulary. I dont see how someone using vocabulary which the lowest common denominator of people dont grasp doesnt mean he should stop using it, it means other people should raise their knowledge.
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this is silly, he used perfectly appropprate vocabulary. I dont see how someone using vocabulary which the lowest common denominator of people dont grasp doesnt mean he should stop using it, it means other people should raise their knowledge.
or he could just talk like a normal person so everyone can understand him since we probably have quite a few english as a second language posters here and he's writing like he's trying to impress his third year law professor or something...

But you know, whatever.
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or he could just talk like a normal person so everyone can understand him since we probably have quite a few english as a second language posters here and he's writing like he's trying to impress his third year law professor or something...

But you know, whatever.
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