[iM tgun]

Originally Posted by Xeen

No. If the player's opinion on the situation counts, then you're accepting that following the rules is optional based on what the player wants. You cannot have a situation with two different possible rulings because the players feel differently and still expect to have legitimacy in your rules.

In an organized competition, the role of the player is to play, anything beyond that needs to be handled by the admins for the sake of impartiality.

So you're admitting (as previously noted) that it's not the players fault :|

That's the only thing I'm trying to put into this discussion, by the way: every large tournament you see, the players are presented a maplist by admins and the map is made by admins. I understand you obviously can't do this for every game online in a big tournament such as the CO, but when it gets to ro16+, it's feasible. It would avoid this whole issue :|

[Xeen]

Originally Posted by tgun

So you're admitting (as previously noted) that it's not the players fault :|

How did you come to that conclusion? If I said 'sentences should be given by a judge, not decided by the criminal itself' would you say 'then you admit it's not the criminal's fault?' You're confusing a discussion of the resolution with the cause of the issue.

It's the fault of all parties involved, the players for screwing up and the admins for not catching it, but that's not relevant - what's important is how the problem gets resolved, and that's entirely in the hands of the administration.