[NvPinder]

Originally Posted by Roz

we really dont care that much about what you think, all i can say is stop crying.

You got rolled, suck it.

This is possibly the best troll on these forums so far this year. Which is NOT an easy feat.

******* well done sir.

[syfChadMann]

wow.. this is still going?.. grow up guys.

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	cruxSpoon:	Tuned in to stream, got directed here, its not even mature drama lol agreed major time wiht this post
	NvPinder:	How is it a bad thing? Rivalry is awesome and this shit is entertaining yo

[JoFritzMD]

Originally Posted by Roz

we really dont care that much about what you think, all i can say is stop crying.

You got rolled, suck it.

I think a major point in what Light was saying was that if anyone from xgking said this after a win they would get lynched. Any other person says it, no one cares.

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	ToR.Arnor:	100% on the money
	nirvAnA:

[Roz]

Originally Posted by JoFritzMD

I think a major point in what Light was saying was that if anyone from xgking said this after a win they would get lynched. Any other person says it, no one cares.

and there's obviously a reason that it's like that right?

[JoFritzMD]

Originally Posted by Roz

and there's obviously a reason that it's like that right?

Because people are incredibly biased and for some reason hold the xgking players up to a far higher standard then anyone else. If Benji came and said that about an opposing team that xgking just beat there would be the longest thread about how no one should ever do anything to do with him or his team ever again. But you say it and nothing happens. That's not right.

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	Stallion:	agreed
	Zepph:

[Roz]

Originally Posted by JoFritzMD

Because people are incredibly biased and for some reason hold the xgking players up to a far higher standard then anyone else. If Benji came and said that about an opposing team that xgking just beat there would be the longest thread about how no one should ever do anything to do with him or his team ever again. But you say it and nothing happens. That's not right.

Things don't just happen for no reason, it's more to do with the things they do.

[iM MaFia]

Originally Posted by Roz

Things don't just happen for no reason, it's more to do with the things they do.

good quote ill remember this one

[TAEdarus]

Originally Posted by TAEdarus

nirvAnA:
lol @ the good ol "admins must have a personal vendetta against you"

Lol @ the good ol' admins taking the time to negrep and not respond to a PM...
Dafaq?

[cruxSpoon]

Just trying to keep things classy

EDIT: Yes, its not quite the proper use of the meme

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	Nemo:	hahaha, excellent one !
	NvPinder:	that meme belongs on a university meme page.

[TAEdgE]

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	cruxSpoon:	Ah haha
	[TA]LoSt:	Cap'n EdgE has spoken
	Maynarde:	LOOOOOOOOOOOL
	syfChadMann:	aye aye!
	simon:	yes
	NvRossi:	hahah!
	TABiggun:	LOL icing on the cake
	Stallion:	LOL WINNER
	TAriiChard:	ROFL!!
	TAEdarus:
	nirvAnA:	LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
	Xenomorph:
	Baldie:	So good
	neon:	aye aye cappn
	ToRSpookToR:	gg
	x5.Revenant:
	Spud:	lol
	Champi:	best call
	asdfSchnitzel:
	JoFritzMD:	this is the best start to the day I have had in months
	TADivinity:	After this I think you will definitely be keeping that avatar hahaha
	TAminimat:

[neon]

Originally Posted by EdgE

I'd just like to point out I read the thread backwards and said aye aye cappn, before reading Mafia say it earlier.

ugh.

[syfChadMann]

Can I just say,
My earlier comment - grow up guys.. I feel I need to explain that further.

Do you want eSports to grown and expand in this region?
Do you want more tournaments that showcase SEA talent and develop such emotionally invested action?
Do you want to win money at these tournaments?

Well what do you think carrying on like this says to potential sponsors?.. I surely wouldn't want my brand associated with this rubbish. If you guys have the capacity to, drop it and build a bridge and get over this whole issue - do it. your making this all look like a bunch of kids playing games over the Internet... I know, many of your are thinking to yourselves - "Well Chad, it is a bunch of kids playing games over the Internet..." - and that's exactly what everyone else will think of you - so carry on... If, however, you want people to recognise eSports as a legitimate profession in this region. Act like professionals. This attitude puts SEA eSports backwards, why you killing eSports?

so please, I implore you, grow up.

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nGenLight:

I agree with what your saying, but we ain't sitting here taking lumps for nothing.

[Roz]

yea because i was talking to a wall right?

[iM MaFia]

Originally Posted by Roz

yea because i was talking to a wall right?

get your head outta a sewer for a minute

[TargA]

Originally Posted by Roz

yea because i was talking to a wall right?

it seems so, the evidence is clear.

Originally Posted by xGKingMafia

get your head outta a sewer for a minute

there are no sewers in his castle.

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TAminimat:

where do his poo's and wee's go?

[nGenLight]

Let me summarise what happened from my perspective before this thread gets locked. I will try to be as least bias as possible.

1~Infi joins SEACL and SEACC on coniditon that admins accomodate them (though not mentioning to what extent)for their trimmed roster.
2~Infi cannot play the games vs xeria gaming, asks for reschedule, benji takes the forfeit, (benji very vocal about strict rulings all along) infi demonstrate hate publicly to Benji.
3-Infi and xeria both makes SEACC finals. No previous BOx rules for finals were set. Admins and fans wanted BO9, to be more exciting. Infi prefers BO7 due to roster/schedule issues. Xeria prefered BO9 because they felt they had a deeper roster. Admins decision note: infi willing to accept BO9 with Revival, benji refuses as per preference to BO9
4-Admins decide BO9, Roz enters chatbox, vocal abt his displeasure with such decision. Makes it known to many (including myself) that Infi can only field 4 players. Xeria prefers BO9 but dont want a free 1-0 lead.
5-Admins change to BO7, No complaints from xeria.
5.5 -xeria vs wayi spider show match, revival instilled, roz lets it known in thread of benjis double-standards
6-Finals night, Jazbas late/drunk,iaguz starts instead, admin gave Infi decision to choose another player, infi voices displeasure of this decision
7-Infi wins with Targa scoring an impressive all kill
8-All sides well mannered and cool
9a-Iceiceice/Targa attempts to troll Revenant (also possibly to spite Benji and get some rises out of people, will not be presumptiously conclusive here), leaking image of private chatlog which contains offensive material to xeria . Iaguz responds with some displeasure.
9b-Detective Mafia suggests through his findings that infijokes(infi 5th player) was plenty available on Finals night, publicly asks clarification, Roz tells mafia to not be presumptious/sore loser, does not clarify situation.
10-xgKingLight reads leaked private chat, very vocal in forum about offensiveness of such material
11-Rev ensures its just trolling, Light decides to relax and move on, as do rest of xgking. everything seems to have come to an end...
12-Roz logs on, quote "we really dont care that much about what you think, all i can say is stop crying.
You got rolled, suck it."
12.5-Edge's epic picture!
13-People fired up again, Chadmann emplores all to think abt ESPORTS and stop fighting!(i agree)

& THAT IS ALL OF INFI VS XG DRAMA SO FAR! STAY TUNED FOR MORE!

*If i am wrong in these facts, please let me know*

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	Flamga:	Light being boss <3
	TAScarecrow:	cheers for the summary
	TCPLemminks:
	Reere:	epic TL;DR~

[Nemo]

Originally Posted by xGKingLight

9b-Detective Mafia suggests through his findings that infijokes(infi 5th player) was plenty available on Finals night, publicly asks clarification, Roz tells mafia to not be presumptious/sore loser, does not clarify situation.

I have no much comment on the drama as I don't have all the keys to understand all what happened between both teams since that initial "forfeit taken".

But since the first post of Mafia this point intrigues me. If this is true, it seems to me that this would be serious enough to have an answer. Why would Infi has 5 players available and only shows the best 4 of them ?

Roz, instead of being mean to Xeria, could you gives us an explanation ?

[Frogmite]

Originally Posted by Nemo

I have no much comment on the drama as I don't have all the keys to understand all what happened between both teams since that initial "forfeit taken".

But since the first post of Mafia this point intrigues me. If this is true, it seems to me that this would be serious enough to have an answer. Why would Infi has 5 players available and only shows the best 4 of them ?

Roz, instead of being mean to Xeria, could you gives us an explanation ?

I think i need to step in just to clarify that point.

In the SEACC thread the format was indicated as Bo7. xG proposed it to be Bo9 because it's better for the show (thing that i agree). However, inFi being in final also has their right to give their opinion. The fact that they don't want the final to be Bo9 is 100% legit. It was not written in the thread that final would be Bo9 so why would we change the format after competition started.

I believe the majority wanted Bo9, however, if it's not stated in the thread it's not fair to change rules half-way. The exact same thing happened when i wanted to put play-offs after week 4 and xG was the only team to refuse claiming it was not fair for them as the thread was stating no play-offs for all league (fair point once again).

We can change rules/format half-way only if all parties agree, which was clearly not the case for the format final and the play-offs.

So in terms of fairness, the final of SEACC had to be Bo7. I don't want further polemics on that particular point.

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	x5.Revenant:	Thank you le sir.
	Nemo:	Thanks for the answer !
	nirvAnA:
	Dox:	kaboom, baby
	SmirkToT:	majority? can you make a poll lol

[iM MaFia]

Originally Posted by Frogmite

I think i need to step in just to clarify that point.

In the SEACC thread the format was indicated as Bo7. xG proposed it to be Bo9 because it's better for the show (thing that i agree). However, inFi being in final also has their right to give their opinion. The fact that they don't want the final to be Bo9 is 100% legit. It was not written in the thread that final would be Bo9 so why would we change the format after competition started.

I believe the majority wanted Bo9, however, if it's not stated in the thread it's not fair to change rules half-way. The exact same thing happened when i wanted to put play-offs after week 4 and xG was the only team to refuse claiming it was not fair for them as the thread was stating no play-offs for all league (fair point once again).

We can change rules/format half-way only if all parties agree, which was clearly not the case for the format final and the play-offs.

So in terms of fairness, the final of SEACC had to be Bo7. I don't want further polemics on that particular point.

The finals format was not decided/stated anywhere until 2 days before finals. AFAIK admins wanted bo9 viewers wanted bo9, the only person who wanted bo7 was Roz.

This is what nirvAnA said a week before the finals.

[14/03/2012 11:20:53 PM] bryan choo -: the default as it is, is a Bo9
[14/03/2012 11:21:12 PM] Freddy Chi: think about it this way
[14/03/2012 11:21:19 PM] bryan choo -: what im thinking of is either

A) Switch it to a BO7
B) Switch it to a BO9 with 1 revival

Note: BOTH teams must agree

and also Frogmite you weren't even around during the SEACC finals

[NvPinder]

Originally Posted by xGKingMafia

AFAIK admins wanted bo9 viewers wanted bo9, the only person who wanted bo7 was Roz.

This doesn't sound at all similar to you? Seriously? This is getting ridiculous dude.

Also, the thread not stating "The finals will also be Bo7" doesn't mean you'd assume there would be a rule change from the entire season from it being Bo7...