[Easy]

In the past days I´ve been asking this to everyone above and I got different answers. Some say good macro above all , since you can just A+move your units and since your production is good you´ll win, some say if you have a decent macro and a very good micro is better , since you can do a lot with very few units. and some players say multitasking is better, if you have a decent macro and micro and you can do them at the same time you are in advantage of players who only macro or players who play micro intensive.

What do you guys think?
I think everything is important but above all multitasking, if you can deal with multiple drops+ macro like a boss + attack + expand at the same time or even harrass from different places all at once. If your multi is better you can win right there or put him behind.

[Peleus]

Multi tasking is what enables you to enact macro and micro, so it wouldn't really be in the same classification. Macro is more important than micro, especially when trying to move up from lower leagues. If you die before 200/200 it's simply because you didn't have enough stuff.

Mirco enables you to gain effectiveness from your units (race specific). Definately applicable and game changing at higher levels, but not as important for beginners.

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	Stallion:	agreed
	PiG:
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[ROOT`iaguz]

Be good at all of them. No weakness.

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[syfChadMann]

Macro>Micro>Multitask

imo..

If you don't macro, no amount of micro will win the battles.. then once your on an even macro level to your opponent, positioning and micro are important - if you too focussed on multi tasking and forget your army and die to something silly, like a bunch of banes or what ever thats bad.. :P

Then when you have Macro and Micro.. get the edge and out multi-task your opponent..

Thats my opinion as far as learning the game.. they should be your priority.

[SungInSPR]

If you can't multi-task, u can't macro and micro either.

[syfChadMann]

Originally Posted by SungInSPR

If you can't multi-task, u can't macro and micro either.

True.. I see multi-task as being multi prong attack etc.. as macro multi-tasking is part of the macro skill macro..

but yeah.. Micro and Macro are the two categories here.. multitasking is your ability to do them both.

[ToRXypha]

I would consider Multi-Tasking in SC2 the skill to keep up on each task of your macro and your micro, not losing your Macro because you had to micro is multitasking skill. if you have to Micro like a machine below masters its because you didnt macro well enough to not have to micro, Or your suffering a build order loss and having to micro to survive (IE FE vs 6 pool)

[RicocheT]

You can have good micro without good macro.
You can have good macro without good micro
You cannot have good macro and good micro without good multitasking.

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[xGKingdelete]

IMO, once you get past a certain level, army control becomes just as, if not more important than macro. If you macro up 10 extra zealots than normal, they still don't count if they're stuck behind your stalkers. If you lose half your army to forcefields, it doesn't matter how well you macroed behind it.

One thing I think is important is the ability to spend your money quickly once your macro slips. If you're floating 2k minerals and you manage to spend it all, then you aren't in a bad position. It doesn't make too big of a difference unless your opponent attacks you before you can spend it.

[faithHunter]

Macro >> Micro
Macro + Micro = Multitasking

Because even when you can micro as well as Boxer did back in his BW days, it will be useless if you have little to none to micro.

If you can Macro (Expand, produce, build production structures, build workers, etc), and Micro your units (Kiting, Marine Splitting, Blink Stalker micro, etc) good enough, that's where you should start thinking about your strategy/multitasking (I'm referring to your ability to do drops, harass, etc while keeping up with macro while still paying attention to your harassment units so that they don't die.)

The only reason why I'm still stuck in Silver despite being able to split marines, stutter step, kite, etc is because of my poor macro. Even if I split my 20 Marines so well so that Baneling splash won't hit more than a single marine, it won't matter if my opponent has 400 Banelings, all piled up in a single hotkey, waiting to be A-Moved to my base to my demise. Not to mention the Zerg has saved up larvae. But now my macro has improved, and now I'm more or less owning other silvers on ladder. (Just saying)

[NvPinder]

This thread makes my brain hurt.

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[mGGDaedalus]

I feel like decision making should be in there after macro and before micro. Being able to macro will let you get through the lower leagues with almost any build, but when you get to those no-man's land leagues like diamond, you can perhaps have better macro than someone in a game but just lose cause you build the wrong stuff etc.

[ROCCAT_Savior]

Good Macro, theres a reason it's what newer players are told to improve on. It's the most important of the 3 fundamental ideas behind Starcraft, the others being Micro and then Multitasking

[TABjornbrandr]

I don't know about macro or micro, but mutalisks are very important in my games.

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[Zealo]

if you're good enough at Metagaming, you don't need to be able to do any of the 3 other, lesser Ms

[Theend]

Just enjoy the game,have fun and say "gg" after the game.
The rest is not important.

[iRLpuku]

its race dependant. if u are protoss. macro. if you are terran. micro plays a more important role. terran have to split units kite, and so much more. for toss u just need to a-move. zeals collo and stalkers more or less micro themselves when they are in a huge mass. in a pure a-move fight toss vs terran. toss wins hands down.

[Cordance]

Originally Posted by xGKingiaguz

Be good at all of them. No weakness.

This is the truth. Knowing your game is an important part of this. If your six pooling you best be playing tip top micro. If your FFE you probably want to focus on macro more so than your micro (unless the six pool hits, oh and dont forget probe micro). My advise is have a macro play that you perfect and a micro that you work on. Multitasking will come from you switching between the two seamlessly.

Remember the better you get at macro the less time it will take you. The better you get at micro the more time you will want to spend on it.

[dKiWi]

u can get into via only good micro or only good macro. But you need to be exceptionally good at either. Also, u cant get into if you are really bad at either; need to be at least above average in both departments and extremely good in one.

Like for example, 1-1-1 works in tournaments and the GSL, so you can just 1-1-1 without doing MMM in tvp if u wanna get into masters. But your micro (siege tank targeting stalkers, marines targeting immortals etc.) must be exceptional

[Easy]

I kinda get the idea, they´re all important but macro is the most important skill. thanks for responding guys

[framtidenskrig]

well, you cant get into masters with just good micro, i think macro outweight macro, but you will still need to have micro :/

[Zealo]

Originally Posted by dKiWi

Also, u cant get into if you are really bad at either; need to be at least above average in both departments and extremely good in one.

i'm terrible at both, it put me in masters. my theory is that the ladder is broken

[Shiny000]

At the highest level, all aspects should be perfect.

Realistically, I think if you're a lower league player, you should be focusing much more on your macro and your mechanics. These skills will propel you further than micro will.

[dKiWi]

Originally Posted by iRLpuku

its race dependant. if u are protoss. macro. if you are terran. micro plays a more important role. terran have to split units kite, and so much more. for toss u just need to a-move. zeals collo and stalkers more or less micro themselves when they are in a huge mass. in a pure a-move fight toss vs terran. toss wins hands down.

Terran bio units need an auto-cast spell called "stutter step"

[Natelook]

A lot of pros say Marcro, so by the time your army is done fighting you have another army ready to fight.

[Spud]

sc2 doesnt' have macro.

[ToRDolo]

Well, from my experience, macro is what you'll want to work on if you want to be an all round player able to win in many different situations, (not that I'm good at that yet haha). Micro is only going to be more important than macro if you're going to base your playstyle on all ins and timing attacks. That being said, you can only exectue these well if you have solid macro or you won't have enough troops when you're meant to hit that timng, or you won't be reinforcing as well as you should be to go for the kill! Obviously at higher levels having both of these things is important, and hence being able to switch between macro and micro quickly, or multitask, becomes more and more important.

[ROOT`iaguz]

Why are there still posts after mine?

I /threaded this shit days ago.

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[Cendacan]

Witch is the best way to train macro and mirco?

Private massage me then

[Bloodmyst]

I'm finding for Terran, micro and macro are just as important as each other. Doesn't matter if your have a 30 supply lead against a Protoss deathball, if your micro is terrible you will still get roflstomped!

Gotta watch dem storms!

[Cute]

Micro if you want to impress the ladiessssss

[Bloodmyst]

Originally Posted by Cendacan

Witch is the best way to train macro and mirco?

Private massage me then

Learn a build a stick with it, my approach to this is.

In T v Z I go for a reactor hellion expand. Basically I want to have my macro on par whilst I'm keeping active with hellions at all times! After this when my marine/tank/medivac timing comes I want to have my money low without missing any production cycles. On a side not, I want to make sure I have control of the watch towers at all times and if I scout a potential opening with my hellions to roast some drones I will take it.

In the end, I just want to be able to execute this build crisply up until the marine/tank/medivac push. I have found this great to not only improve my macro and micro, but it gets my hands movign around much faster. I'm sitting at around 190 apm (hellions require a lot of baby sitting imo) atm and as much as people say apm doesn't mean shit, it has helped me with executing other "new" builds I try.

[faithHunter]

Originally Posted by Cendacan

Witch is the best way to train macro and mirco?

Private massage me then

Plenty of practice, like how most progamers do. Oh, and improving on one skill at a time.

[dazza098]

Originally Posted by FaDeRicocheT

You can have good micro without good macro.
You can have good macro without good micro
You cannot have good macro and good micro without good multitasking.

this is true


i play in silver and i use conrtoll groups 1-9 for most games it is key to be able to do this but again not nessasary for bronze but its somthing you should try and grasp in the early stages of the game.

i played a macro/micro game with a friend he controlled the units i controlled the macro,

this gave me alot of time to learn the keys and units and after that game it took me from bronze to silver.

When i hit silver i had the macro behind me to wich im always learning new builds and technics but now i get chance to work on my micro!

Controll groups are key to sucsess, most bronze to silver players struggle to deal with multi attacks so using controll groups helps with this!

hope this helps some lower players

GL HF GG!

Dazza

[Natelook]

I thin kgood Macro, A lot of pros say so

[Dox]

You can't spelling Multitask without Mutalisk.

[iRLpuku]

Originally Posted by dazza098

i play in silver and i use conrtoll groups 1-9 for most games it is key to be able to do this but again not nessasary for bronze but its somthing you should try and grasp in the early stages of the game.

wow if you are able to use 1-9. u shld already been in diamond without any problem. i only use about 4 hotkeys efficiently.. anything more and i will start screwing up a little. lol. i do map keys to my mouse too ( i use a deathadder) so i have 2 control groups on my mouse. helps with the keys that are further away like 7 and 8

[Shana]

You cant have good micro without good macro (what's there to click when you dont have reinforcements?)
You cant have good macro without good micro (cant manage 1 unit? how are you going to manage the whole team?)

My point is learn/fix one problem by one, it is easier to improve your rank in the long run. For example I used to have bad economy and couldn't produce enof units to win the game, so I kept reminding myself to keep building probes until x number of probes. Then only I focus on what units to get to counter my opponent n then learn how to micro each stalkers so i get higher DPS.

Know your weakness, patch them up and then learn more builds and repeat! Everyone have different approach to how they wish to win a game.