Fastest carrier you can get in PvZ is 9:30 on 2 bases with FFE with probe cutting and assuming no early pressure. Only reason it is safe in pvz because zerg mid game units are bad against cannons, and can be controlled with only 1 sentry at ramp.
Can do the same timing in PvT, but it's not very good, because most 2-base medivac timings come around same time, and cannons with carrier won't clear it. For PvT, it's best to open FE into 5(7) gate TC, then transition to carriers on 3x bases.
PvP carriers...never tried it. Had one game waaay back that lasted long enough to get carriers on the field. Phoenixes are ok though, but the build is kind of complicated due to possible variations.
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