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Unread Sun, 19th-Feb-2012, 10:12 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TtPiG.473  Race: Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,221 # 1
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both really up-and-coming amazing players! Very busy with regular life so very sociable and good at communicating unlike some of us full-time guys get at times >.<.

As for Eldrid timing-attack and cheesing his way to 5th at Cityhunter today, he beat players like myself and Iaguz despite the fact we train probably 5x as much as him. He knew his mechanics wouldn't hold up in later game so he did unique and well-thought out timings that relied on false information. It was actually quite masterful. It almost felt like I was on Korean ladder.

Bad luck to Hut today, no shame being eliminated by the ever-powerful Iaguz! Still stunned by his macro play at SGL where he dominated glade on Daybreak!
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Unread Sun, 19th-Feb-2012, 10:14 PM Who's Who:   Race: Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,130 # 2
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both really up-and-coming amazing players! Very busy with regular life so very sociable and good at communicating unlike some of us full-time guys get at times >.<.

As for Eldrid timing-attack and cheesing his way to 5th at Cityhunter today, he beat players like myself and Iaguz despite the fact we train probably 5x as much as him. He knew his mechanics wouldn't hold up in later game so he did unique and well-thought out timings that relied on false information. It was actually quite masterful. It almost felt like I was on Korean ladder.

Bad luck to Hut today, no shame being eliminated by the ever-powerful Iaguz! Still stunned by his macro play at SGL where he dominated glade on Daybreak!
Not really. Almost every game against Eldrid he tries to cheese me. These two times it managed to pay off for him. That's not masterful, it's just statistically probable.
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Unread Sun, 19th-Feb-2012, 10:24 PM BnetId: DrPhoenix 993  Race: Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 3 # 3
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Not really. Almost every game against Eldrid he tries to cheese me. These two times it managed to pay off for him. That's not masterful, it's just statistically probable.
You just sound sour because he beat you. He doesn't BM you when you beat him..
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Unread Sun, 19th-Feb-2012, 10:39 PM BnetId: Eldrid.367  Race: Location: Sydney, Penrith  Total Posts Made: 169 # 4
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Not really. Almost every game against Eldrid he tries to cheese me. These two times it managed to pay off for him. That's not masterful, it's just statistically probable.
Your better than me, and this had a (much) better chance of me winning vs you than playing a macro game. That's all it comes down to!

But I agree it would suck to lose to this at a tournament...

I felt bad after the games, but TBH you gotta do what you gotta do to give yourself the best chance of winning @ tournies...

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Unread Sun, 19th-Feb-2012, 11:04 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: frayHuT.483  Race: Clan: aLt  Location: Australia  Total Posts Made: 536 # 5
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Your better than me, and this had a (much) better chance of me winning vs you than playing a macro game. That's all it comes down to!

But I agree it would suck to lose to this at a tournament...

I felt bad after the games, but TBH you gotta do what you gotta do to give yourself the best chance of winning @ tournies...
This x10000.

Nothing wrong with cheesing~

Not like Iaguz's build was never vulnerable. If Eldrid doesn't cheese, he gets outmacro'd. Simple as that!
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Your better than me, and this had a (much) better chance of me winning vs you than playing a macro game. That's all it comes down to!

But I agree it would suck to lose to this at a tournament...

I felt bad after the games, but TBH you gotta do what you gotta do to give yourself the best chance of winning @ tournies...
don't worry about what people say and just do whatever works best for you! They used to call me cheese factory!

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Unread Mon, 20th-Feb-2012, 10:48 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: TtPiG.473  Race: Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,221 # 7
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Not really. Almost every game against Eldrid he tries to cheese me. These two times it managed to pay off for him. That's not masterful, it's just statistically probable.
I didn't watch your games too closely i just caught the tail end of a few so I didn't see the lead up. However against me he would often throw multiple spines and act very defensive just to make me assume he was macroing and I got lazy with checking my scouting. Not sure if the same happened with you. I do know he was hitting with a roachbane timing significantly earlier then you're used to it hitting. So his sub-optimal cheeses were perhaps just built to get in before your build was ready. Not sure.
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Unread Mon, 20th-Feb-2012, 12:11 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: frayHuT.483  Race: Clan: aLt  Location: Australia  Total Posts Made: 536 # 8
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I didn't watch your games too closely i just caught the tail end of a few so I didn't see the lead up. However against me he would often throw multiple spines and act very defensive just to make me assume he was macroing and I got lazy with checking my scouting. Not sure if the same happened with you. I do know he was hitting with a roachbane timing significantly earlier then you're used to it hitting. So his sub-optimal cheeses were perhaps just built to get in before your build was ready. Not sure.

Games 1 and 2 were pure ling bane allins. G1 iaguz lost like 2-3 hellions due to a surround before the attack began, G2 he kept the hellions but eldrid didn't make safety babes at home to repel iaguz's counter.

Both allins have been practiced extensively.

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Ezdrid definitely needs to work on those safety babes... ;)
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