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Originally Posted by |Erasmus|

That's not it all... it's not that I'm saying he's wrong because he doesn't share my opinion. I'm saying his opinion is not the only one, and saying Benji has broken -his- rules about how to promote himself/his team, is just saying that and should in no way apply that Benji is categorically wrong.

Let the public decide with their subscriptions/followings who is promoting themselves better, not Dox's opinion. Not so hard, is it?

To be fair to benji, people don't know this but he did ask me first if he could post his video as news, and generally he always does that when hes about to make a news post. I thought many people would like the video (turns out pple liked it even more than expected) so i said yea its news worthy and told him to go ahead. His kingston review not too long ago wasn't "news worthy" and rightfully went under "General Forums", in fact he didn't even ask me if it could go under news, he knew it himself. I guess the issue was him using the news post to promote his stuff. Well I knew he would probably promote his team/sponsors like he normally does and thats usually fine with me cause whenever he does that i just scroll down and ignore it when the sponsor part comes up (sorry benji!) and i thought people would just do the same if they weren't interested so i saw it as no harm to give his team a bit of exposure because after all he did make an enjoyable video for most people and I would rather see video + some sponsor promotion rather then no video at all, as having some sponsor promotion naturally gives the incentive to continue to produce more content. Kinda like on niche sites its common to let guest writers (who clearly just want traffic or a backlink for SEO for their own site) to post some content of value and in return they get to plug "to find out more abou Y go too...X" at the bottom of their post. Whereas if you don't allow that there would be a lot less or even no content coming from these "guest writers" that readers will be missing out on.

I also have to state that dox is a rarity in this world, there is no else in this community that even comes close to Dox in terms of his selfless dedication, thats why he is such a hero to us all. Its hard to meet Dox's standards because every thing he touches is done so exceptionally well. Most of us fall short, and on top of that, people like benji (xgking), arnor(CH), mayo(Tte) and even me (tgm) have some undeniable self-interests vested here and there whereas Dox has absolutely no agenda. But I feel we all contribute to esports and its development in some way, just not in the same pure form as Dox. And I guess it also depends on our PR skills and how we convey the message, e.g arnor's earlier post and benji's basically accomplished the same thing but produced totally different vibes. Basically all of us have good PR skills except Benji (this can be improved ben! ) but as Sensei/ TA have found out when they met Benji IRL at ACL, "he was actually just a nice normal guy" and their attitude towards him drastically changed for the better!

Anyway, hope both sides have a clearer picture now after I've shared this perspective. As everyone said, we would all love to see the both of you working together and not against each other. IMO theres some deeper issues that have to be resolved between you two privately that is causing this tension. As loach has said this is really something over "nothing" and if those issues aren't resolved its just gonna keep popping up like a stubborn floating poop whenever the slightest disagreement appears.

Now lets hug! (pics stolen from Dot89's fb.)

Quick Comments

	cRSenSei:	Nobody will ever live up to Dox!
	|Erasmus|:	I love both of these guys. They both support esports, even if they go about it differently.
	x5_dot:	hahaha gosh you're quick!! :D
	Nemo: