[Maynarde]

Originally Posted by SQLTt.SenSei

Let me guess.. it happened friday night after I left to my gf's apartment?

That's why there's no video. I could have been there to video it, you just had to ask!

You were too busy looking at crazy Ken ninjas.

Originally Posted by Frogmite

Actually there is a video but i'll publish it when i get 100 followers on my twitter

Dude, I love you, but this is exactly what I don't wanna see anymore here.

[Frogmite]

Originally Posted by Maynarde

Dude, I love you, but this is exactly what I don't wanna see anymore here.

Yeah sorry, temptation was too high for me

[TAriiChard]

More importantly, why didn't the video feature this?

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	Frogmite:	lol
	Maynarde:	LOL
	VoxMSI.Rogue:	bahahahhahahaha
	inFeZa:	i love the determination on pinder's face
	Loach:	rofl thats amazing

[cRSenSei]

I am smiling way too hard in that photo while holding a guy...

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	TAriiChard:	LOL! While telling viewers to call you!
	VoxMSI.Rogue:	rofl. no homo

[syfMiley]

Originally Posted by SQLTt.SenSei

I am smiling way too hard in that photo while holding a guy...

Wait till you hold me ;]

[iM tgun]

Titty Sprinkles.

[TAEdarus]

Originally Posted by Frogmite

Actually there is a video but i'll publish it when i get 100 followers on my twitter

This is why I love you.

[nGenLight]

The way you conduct yourself, and the things you say goes a long way in demonstrating the image of yourself in the eyes of others.

I'm well aware that Benji does tend to excessively promote Xeria/Kingston/SEA Esports/Himself as a caster, and has made no attempt at hiding this - which obviously have rubbed people the wrong way and can easily be intepreted as selfish. But let's not forget the positive affect his promotion has on SEA Esports in general. Therefore, I tend to avoid the focus on the label "doing everything for the community/doing things for himself". Nobody really gets anything significantly tangible in promoting SEA E-Sports, and I tend to say the people who are most involved actually lose out on alot of money (Dox even payed for our pizzas man, enough said). The real reward is really seeing E-Sports in SEA takeoff, and perhaps, wanting to have your community status/reputation (epeen) grow to Nirvana-esque levels. Ironically, it is actually easier to achieve this when you don't focus on this at all (People generally like selfless people - ), or do it very subtly ( - or people who appear to be). You do it like Benji, you going to get backlash, because it is going to appear as shameless self-promotion moreso than promoting E-Sports in SEA (just look at the SEA weeklies as an example).

Derek, as someone whos been playing, promoting, organising, and being generally involved in the scene for much longer. You are truly a guru and a living legend, and noone should ever understate what you have done for the community, hence you probably have the highest credibility in sc2sea as of this moment (even if you didn't even try/care, you are there buddy), and the effect your opinions/comments are enormous. Even though I was generally agreeable to what you were saying, you did come off abit strong in your initial posts, hence why I felt the response by Benji was understandable. Albeit I don't know much about the private conversations between the two of you, but having a person with "god-like status" in the community raining negativity on your content is rather disheartening. Cut the new guy a little slack, put a little sugar in your mug of teachings . Just imagine you and Benji switched postions in this thread, Benji would have been slaughtered.

I have to say, I am someone who generally cares alot about reputation(although alot less now) and I know how to achieve this in my own way if I wanted to, by delivering quality posts, being honest and sincere. Oh and by being on the good books of the biggest names in SEA. EDIT: And the edit button.

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	Nemo:	That type of post sure deservelly raise your reputation :) Agrred on all
	Frogmite:	benji is a nice buddy
	Dox:	i miss you rayray <3 <3
	TAriiChard:
	Zepph:
	iM yang:	you're amazing rayray, never change
	Maynarde:	Well said
	VoxMSI.Rogue:

[Strafe]

Oh gawd Iaguz got a big f'ng manly neckbeard growing!

As for the Benji blabla debate I just want to add that when he is casting he does tend to overly favor xKing players to the point where xKing player does a funky 1 base strat it's brilliant! But Team X player does 1 base strat it's a cheesy fail strat that doesn't deserve to win. It's fine to promote your own team, to root for your own team, but when casting please interpret strats/action objectively.

That being said; your effort for esports is appreciated and you do not need to defend yourself. Even if you did everything for personal gain that is absolutely fine as long as you provide a great service to the community who are we to complain that you gain out of it? Nobody asks you to do charity work and everyone notices your hard work when you are always available for castings etc. How you want to promote your twitter is also up to you obviously, but not releasing x until you hit x is really lame and would actually not make me sign up. I'm all for attention whoring and gathering a following, I just do not think that is the most effective way to do it. Just my two cents on that one as well.

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	NvRossi:	agreed
	ROOT`iaguz:	you better believe it son.
	nGenLight:	agreed with TARossi
	Nemo:	Great post !
	TAriiChard:
	Champi:	i dont know u but i like your opinion, lets be friends
	Fourby:

[FaDeKerrigan]

Thanks for the coverage Benji. Cheers!

[simon]

His xgking bias is the least of his casting worries tbh.

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	TAkrunch:
	ToR.Arnor:	doesnt help in the slightest, please take your immaturity elsewhere
	Imperial:

[Champi]

Skyrim belongs to the nords!!!!

[Benji]

Just a quick update, but I will be releasing part 2 when i finish creating it regardless of followers. Incase people missed Chris' competition on Page 3, go back and read that for sure

Part 2 is taking some time compared to Part 1 as when I created Part 1, I had a free day to just sit there and do it, since then i've been tied up with work, SGL organizing and casting, making it hard to complete it quickly (Work has been done on it). I'll try get it rendered and maybe uploaded tonight, but I am casting alt vs infi, and I can't render or upload whilst streaming.

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x5.Revenant:

Ohyeahhhhhhhh

[simon]

excuse me arnor? strafe was saying how he "overly favours" xgking members and i merely pointed out that it should be the least of his worries if we are breaking down his casting style. There seems to be far to many people with the same sort of sanctimonious attitude as yourself on this site.

would you have me instead be dishonest and elivate benji to god status? heaven forbid we are honest around here whilst not being overly offensive which i dont think i was.

[ToR.Arnor]

Originally Posted by simon

excuse me arnor? strafe was saying how he "overly favours" xgking members and i merely pointed out that it should be the least of his worries if we are breaking down his casting style. There seems to be far to many people with the same sort of sanctimonious attitude as yourself on this site.

would you have me instead be dishonest and elivate benji to god status? heaven forbid we are honest around here whilst not being overly offensive which i dont think i was.

I would have you be constructive with your criticism rather than adding a comment which contributes nothing to the conversation, you are certainly entitled to your opinion but try mention ways which you believe a person can improve or what are his other problems (give your argument some weight yo) rather than just throwing in a cliche.

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	VB_WhiplashJC:
	FvRphoneheha:	"Benji, you should do this...", rather than "lol benji bad"
	Nemo:	Exactly
	Imperial:	complete idiot

[simon]

differing philosophies.


see how that was short yet succint enough to get my message across that i disagree. not everything must be an essay and its certainly not my job to coach benji on casting.

fortunately you only affect my reputation points and not my entire sc2sea forum experience.

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nGenLight:

Fortunately not everyone on the forum posts like you do =]

[x5.Revenant]

Originally Posted by simon

differing philosophies.


see how that was short yet succint enough to get my message across that i disagree. not everything must be an essay and its certainly not my job to coach benji on casting.

fortunately you only affect my reputation points and not my entire sc2sea forum experience.

It was criticism that wasn't constructive in any way; albeit being immature(it's akin to throwing a childish insult like "lol you're bad" without stating the reason for why you think he's bad(the "why you think he's bad" will be the constructive part). That's all there is to it.

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ToR.Arnor:

[FvRphoneheha]

simon, I think Arnor was just making the point that it's better to offer constructive criticism, aka. give benji advice on how to improve if you think he should, not just "improve bro". Pretty easy to voice an opinion, especially on the net. It's nicer if the opinion is also helpful .

Though if it's as you say, and your philosophy is simply that flaws must be pointed out without tips of improvement, well then I guess it's as you say a differing of philosophies.

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simon:

:o