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Unread Thu, 12th-Jan-2012, 9:31 AM BnetId: rezyn#258  BattleTag: rezyn8#6736  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 896 # 1
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My personal view is that if you cannot make the official SEACL time (Thursdays from 8pm AEDT) then you should not be in the league.

This was a huge issue in the BSGCL2 last year where it was a continual battle to find a suitable time because x number of players could not make a Thursday. We (FaDe) always tried to accommodate this, but unless there is a really good reason that is vetted by the admins, I think everyone should be playing on the Thursday night.

I have already organised my team to be available for next Thursday, making adjustments to this will be difficult to say the least as the team has already committed to Thursday for the league as a whole. Changing schedules without good reason is just a nightmare to organise.

Re-scheduling games is unfair to those who have accepted and committed to the League's official game night and the admins running the show and casters with increased management and committing to extra work outside official league timings.
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Unread Fri, 13th-Jan-2012, 10:02 PM Total Posts Made: 43 # 2
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Think this was missed earleir as main post has not been edited.

Hi Chad,

We at Team HoH have the following changes to our line up:

- - rythmatik - Moved up Division
- - EoWxBrutos - New to roster

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Unread Thu, 12th-Jan-2012, 9:39 AM BnetId: TAEaeron.312  Race: Clan: TA  Location: Ballarat, Victoria, Australia  Total Posts Made: 100 # 3
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Re-scheduling games is unfair to those who have accepted and committed to the League's official game night and the admins running the show and casters with increased management and committing to extra work outside official league timings.
Completely agree with this!!!
When agreeing to partake in the SEACL#2 I understood that I no longer hav Thursday nights to myself for 2 months, I instead get to spend it with the like of Chadman/Edarus and such.

I can understand if some members of a team cannot make it, but no team on the roster only has 5 players, it might be the best team that you can put out, but at least you have a team.

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Unread Thu, 12th-Jan-2012, 12:12 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: ToRErasmus.733  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 1,454 # 4
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Completely agree with this!!!
When agreeing to partake in the SEACL#2 I understood that I no longer hav Thursday nights to myself for 2 months, I instead get to spend it with the like of Chadman/Edarus and such.

I can understand if some members of a team cannot make it, but no team on the roster only has 5 players, it might be the best team that you can put out, but at least you have a team.
To be perfectly fair... thursdays were not mentioned until well after signups, so it's not fair to discriminate against people who can't make that day either.

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true iv had several players made redundant because of this (mathmick, naviC)
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Unread Thu, 12th-Jan-2012, 10:21 AM BnetId: rezyn#258  BattleTag: rezyn8#6736  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 896 # 5
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Dear Mr Mann,

Could you please add the following player to the FaDe BSG Ballers roster:

deadpixel.725 - After discussion with The Chad, because of laddering on NA (where he has reached platinum) his league for this event will be considered Gold

Thank you!

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Unread Thu, 12th-Jan-2012, 10:47 AM BnetId: krycek.946  Race: Total Posts Made: 151 # 6
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so i'll ask again as my post was buried >.< is there a set limit on the number of plats in a round that are played?

also as an edit as Huk is a diamond player ( bit unfair in this division as i agreed with rezyn8,

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Unread Thu, 12th-Jan-2012, 10:49 AM Who's Who:   Race: Location: Adelaide, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,638 # 7
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so i'll ask again as my post was buried >.< is there a set limit on the number of plats in a round that are played?
No but we will probably force a line up change every week / couple weeks so that everyone gets a go and the team isn't always so stacked if they have many players.
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Unread Thu, 12th-Jan-2012, 11:40 AM BnetId: FaDeHalstrom.629  Race: Clan: FaDe  Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 91 # 8
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This might have already been covered, but seeing as line-ups are named days before, how will late changes be handled/allowed. This IS the lowest tier after all, and if someone commits to a Thursday game on Saturday but has some issue arise in those 5 days it is a bit harsh to just walk that spot over.

TLDR = 1/. Are late changes to lineups allowed, and how?, and 2/. Should the concept of a "named emergency" be introduced to prevent silly walkovers (after all even pro sports have this concept)?
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Unread Thu, 12th-Jan-2012, 10:48 AM BnetId: rezyn#258  BattleTag: rezyn8#6736  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 896 # 9
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No I don't believe so
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Unread Thu, 12th-Jan-2012, 10:48 AM BnetId: rezyn#258  BattleTag: rezyn8#6736  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 896 # 10
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Also - official rules from nirVaNa: http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?t=3276
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Unread Thu, 12th-Jan-2012, 11:46 AM BnetId: krycek.946  Race: Total Posts Made: 151 # 11
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so just to confirm the changes to the TCP line-up
replacing
TCPmathmick with NaroZilla. 994

(staytuned)
also need admin feed back on Huk inclusion in this tourney?

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Unread Thu, 12th-Jan-2012, 11:47 AM BnetId: breadfan.875  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,073 # 12
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I don't think that linups are named days before in this tier
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Unread Thu, 12th-Jan-2012, 11:53 AM BnetId: krycek.946  Race: Total Posts Made: 151 # 13
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I don't think that linups are named days before in this tier
i read the link ryzen8 sent me its 24 hours for tier 5
http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?t=3276
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Unread Thu, 12th-Jan-2012, 11:57 AM BnetId: VBPotthead.898  Race: Clan: VB  Location: South Australia  Total Posts Made: 787 # 14
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ChadMann and Maynarde have decided that in Tier 5 line-ups will be told to the admins on the night of play, before matches begin. Both teams tell the admin their line-up, then the admins will ok the line-up and say them in chat(I believe) then games can start.
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Unread Thu, 12th-Jan-2012, 11:58 AM BnetId: breadfan.875  Race: Clan: ToR  Location: Brisbane, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,073 # 15
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Oh ok, I know that Chad specifically said that it was a rule they were looking at and that the plan was to allow greater leniency in this tier. I guess what's specifically stated is the go, though
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Unread Thu, 12th-Jan-2012, 12:10 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAChadMann.277  Race: Clan: TA/sR  Location: Byron Bay  Total Posts Made: 2,806 # 16
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Okay.. okay.. hold up everyone, nirvAnA and Frogmite developed a rule set (generic for all tiers) and then quickly adapted for some of the tiers.. HOWEVER, Maynarde and I are permitted to customise these rules. We have been taking suggestions from other tier admins as how to do this, and have a reasonable idea of what we are going to do... but Mr Maynarde, has been rather busy the last few days with work. So he and I have not had the chance to finalise how the rules will work.

Please stay tuned, something will be up tonight or tomorrow about this. so no need to worry about what is written now, a new rule set for tier 5 will be available soon. As I said in my earlier post, this will cover match line ups, times for matches, subs and many other things to give this tier greater flexibility.

Also, default start time might be sliding back to 9pm AEDT. However, as with last season, if both managers agree that they would like to play on Saturday at 4pm thats fine, or when ever - as long as it is before the following Wednesday. Last season, most managers were very accommodating and allowed teams to reorganise the play time. Do it amongst yourselfs, then post in this thread the rescheduled time. If one manager is trying to get free wins and is stubborn about when you play then it will soon become known, and when that manager tries to reschedule a match, no one will want to help them. So be nice, work it out. and gl hf

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Unread Thu, 12th-Jan-2012, 12:11 PM BnetId: VBPotthead.898  Race: Clan: VB  Location: South Australia  Total Posts Made: 787 # 17
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Or you could just ignore me cos I didn't read the other thread first! :P Maynarde says it's 24hours before-hand now and there is a sub allowed for no-shows, but the same race is required. Sorry for confusing you
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Unread Thu, 12th-Jan-2012, 12:22 PM BnetId: rezyn#258  BattleTag: rezyn8#6736  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 896 # 18
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To be perfectly fair... thursdays were not mentioned until well after signups, so it's not fair to discriminate against people who can't make that day either.
Regardless - it has been agreed by the majority that Thursdays are the set day for the fixture. Without a good reason, and I do mean a very good reason, the fixture should be played on the Thursday.
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Unread Thu, 12th-Jan-2012, 12:27 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAChadMann.277  Race: Clan: TA/sR  Location: Byron Bay  Total Posts Made: 2,806 # 19
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Regardless - it has been agreed by the majority that Thursdays are the set day for the fixture. Without a good reason, and I do mean a very good reason, the fixture should be played on the Thursday.
yeah.. But we are allowing people to reschedule their matches if they need too (if notice is given in advance)...

Stay tuned, we will have something for you all soon!

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Unread Thu, 12th-Jan-2012, 12:48 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: TAChadMann.277  Race: Clan: TA/sR  Location: Byron Bay  Total Posts Made: 2,806 # 20
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Also, after discussing with Frogmite, he has agreed that it would be best to move HuK.916 up to TCP's tier 4 team. He has been removed from TCP's Tier 5 team.
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