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Unread Sat, 31st-Dec-2011, 2:59 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: FlashRevz.721  Race: Clan: Flash  Location: Emoland, Singapore  Total Posts Made: 515 # 1
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I think most everyone is aware of the gravity of the punishment that is getting classified as a maphacker - that is the harshest punishment that will follow him wherever he goes.

My only problem I have is the fact that a serious offense like maphacking is only formally punished by a 3 months ban from the biggest SEA community. In comparison - Blizzard simply closed accounts, Bored Aussie has an at least 12 month period before the subject could even appeal for an unban. Did TA accept Sensei 3 months after his crime? Or did it take a good x years. A 3 months ban to a maphacker (an obvious lying one aswell) is very dangerous precedence.

I'm calling for at least a 6 months to 12 months ban. He can get his second chance then. Also adding to the fact that now he is a proven liar (shady character - nice outside, dodgey secrets) - This is not the type of person nor the type of offense you want to show leniency towards - He didn't argue with an admin, he didn't troll like a Zanooku, what he did was an direct crime towards competitive gaming, had multiple chances to fess up and continued to lie - Why would you show leniency to someone like that? There are situations and issues we can be lenient about - I don't think we should show the rest of the world and people contemplating maphacking that this is something we would be in anyways lenient towards.
Totally agree there. Would he had admitted to his multiple maphacking instances, instead of lying about just maphacking ONCE, a three month ban would have sounded reasonable. But leaving it any less than a long term ban seems totally unjustifiable, given that he went through a series of atrocious actions to dealing with this issue.

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As long as he realises it was stupid shit and doesn't do it again, I have no problem with it. I was a known hacker in Counter-Strike: Source in 2008 until I was caught, and then started again fresh and fought my way back into the competitive scene with proper play. Hopefully EvetS can do the same. I trust that he didn't hack in tournaments anyway, and ladder is mostly just all-in rubbish.

As Light mentioned, the gravity of being a known maphacker will severely affect is reputation for a long, long while so I don't have a problem with giving him a second chance.
He's already told the community that "he realized it was stupid shit" to hack with his confession post. However, in his "I realized what I was doing was stupid shit and I admit it"(confession) post, he lied over and over again. If the situation is just left hanging, it's just an indicator for future hackers to say "Hey guys! Hack your hearts out! If you're ever caught and you have no bad records on you, feel free to run away scot-free and defend yourself and lie to everyone in the community until you're eventually pinned to the corner with concrete evidence!".

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