[Manly]

oh ya i don't stream fyi, case close.

[Cyanide]

I don't think this should drag on any longer.

At this point, the evidence is pretty conclusive considering that there are many here who weren't streaming when he "stream cheated".

Also pretty obvious that he's just trolling everyone now.

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mGGAequitas:

don't think he is trolling, he is legit that stupid

[ChoseN]

Can we just put him on ban list? It is annoying as hell that u lose ur points to noob map hackers, at least putting it up here would alert ppl and maybe blizzard to ban him ASAP.

[CasualPlayer]

1) LGWhite Replay
No scout proxy

2) xxdroidxx Replay

I suspect him of maphack after some events
8:10-30 kinda suspect a drop coming from me n decide to stay back in base(waiting anxiously for my warp prism from his camera point of view, moved in like in 10ms response time.. lol)

11:00 snipe of my ob instantly(or is there an easy way to spot obs?)

16:20 vikings ready for me with no vision

Conclusion: No solid evidence but certain events seems convincing to me such as the vikings.Just suspecting and posting up here for opinions.

3) StevenZhou Replay

Didn't really scout much but build forge and cannon as I went for phoenix. Not saying that he hacks or anything. Just want to ask you guys about it.

[crAzerk]

@Fanatic

v xxdroidxx

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6:00ish - dubious split of units - 2 marauders to handle the stalker at top watch tower, marines to take probe, when he had no vision of watchtowers and didn't know if there was anything at all there. hmm...

8:00 - odd placement of units, it's like he's expecting a drop. He did scan your robo before that, but he didn't see the prism or anything so no idea what tipped him. Could be prior games against you or a protoss that led him to be suspicious.

8:15-8:30 - I watched this sequence at least 10 times to try to understand what was happening.
Well, assuming he anticipated a drop - where would you put your marines? At the edge of your base, or closer to the cliff. He kept it in between his ramp and edge, so that seems normal - preparing for an incoming attack from either ramp or drop.
What was NOT normal was his camera sequence from 8:24 onwards. He was just looking at his CC/mineral line for the longest time from 8:20 for god knows what, at 8:27 he shifts down to look at where your warp prism is coming from (no vision yet), and at 8.30 shifts back up to right click down THE INSTANT the warp prism came into view. He is either very very lucky or he knows the prism was going to come then.

9:20 - rallies vikings towards warm prism. No vision at all. Could be a valid guess, that you kept your prism around there.

9:40 - looks into fog - directly at your warm prism, and then rallies vikings directly on top of it. There we go. This is the definitive proof for me. But let's keep watching.

9:47 - right clicking towards your main ramp as if he knows there's nothing immediately above the natural ramp. Any normal player wouldn't do this, because of Forcefields, etc.

11:00 - i dont know what to make of this - observers ARE visible even though they're cloaked, but he had his marines conveniently placed right below it. Plus it wasn't moving, and even as a replay watcher I'm trying my best to spot the observer and it's barely visible as it's concealed by your marines too. No idea how he saw it, though it's not impossible.

12:00 - checking out your army through the fog it seems. Not definitive though, he could be just moving his army below your ramp, but his camera hovered there for a tad too long.

15:23 - moving his marines forward to snipe an obs - that was not even his fog of war. The blur of the observer did appear for a brief second at 15:18, but the intentional sniping of it in fog is ridiculous.

16:12 - loads up bunkers for no apparent reason, apart from KNOWING that you are attacking.

17:40 - stimming 2 marauders to snipe an invisible zealot. Once again, not impossible, but pre-stimming it before even knowing if anything is there is a tad silly.

18:27 - snipes another stationary observer.

Conclusion - A bunch of sketchy actions, by themselves I wouldn't have drawn any conclusions, but the 9:40 staring into fog incident sealed the deal for me. Added to Confirmed Hackers. If he wants to defend his case feel free to post, though I don't see how you can justify staring into fog for 3 seconds at a unit you can't see.

Shall look at the other replay now.

Steven Zhou
0:33 - glances into fog - at the wrong base. Nothing to be said here.

1-1.30 - ok i dont think he's a hacker based on his clicking into the fog to scout - at the wrong base. But let's keep going.

5:20 - sends his probe to scout for proxies in his base. I dont think a maphacker does this.

cannon placement is dubious, yes, but he could've just assumed phoenix/DTs off your 2 gas. Nothing TOO suspicious
9:30 - runs observer into your army and loses it.

Ok I highly doubt he's a mpahacker, he's one of the worst in the world if he is one. If you have any other suspicious activity to report later on in the replay let me know, but I am going to stop here.

[CasualPlayer]

TY for the review. You observed lot more movements than me .. lol.
Anyway I don't think i have any prior games with him as I didn't play much.

yup does agree with you on the split to handle watchtowers..
about the ob at 11:00. Yea he probably can see it but he kind of snipe it instantly and at that moment I can barely see it myself after reviewing it couple times..

[Zealo]

on the list in op it says evidence against whiteluxury starts on page 50.

this is on page 15: http://www.sc2sea.com/showpost.php?p...&postcount=285

[FvRphoneheha]

teeehehehe, just played Whiteluxury on ladder. So easy when you know what's coming

http://drop.sc/273280

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KJH:

yea its obvious

[KJH]

hi, I know this guy was already confirmed but id like to add further evidence on the guy named WHITELUXURY,
1. he does no scout
2. kills scvs with no vision
3. makes no observers.

I have added a screen shot of my conversation with him http://imgur.com/YcvYZ

replay --> http://drop.sc/273300

Quick Comments

	TCPLemminks:	Why hasn't Blizzard Banned this sick filth yet?
	syfSoundwave:	If it wasn't obvious enough before...

[KJH]

this may sound stupid and futile but, everyone should report these guys using the ingame report system. Perhaps with enough reports, they'd get their accounts deactivated.. duno just a suggestion.

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syfMightyKiwi:

Let's see how long before Ban :)

[Whiteluxury]

Originally Posted by KJH

this may sound stupid and futile but, everyone should report these guys using the ingame report system. Perhaps with enough reports, they'd get their accounts deactivated.. duno just a suggestion.

Unfortunately, this is the wrong approach to dealing with these cheaters. Blizzard has said that they will not ban players for stream cheating and stream sniping (http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/191399150). As Blizzard has no affiliation with any livestreaming website, they cannot confirm whether a player is livestreaming or not. Due to this, maphackers who use programs which draw overlays externally to the game (that only read memory), cannot be detected nor banned. There is no solution to dealing with these cheaters at current, . All you can do is talk to them nicely in the game, or just leave as soon as you get in a game with one.

EDIT: Also, any form of cheating software cannot be found by Blizzard as long as the program is Warden-proof, due to legal reasons (privacy). Warden is the anti-cheat that Blizzard uses, as long as the program the cheater is using can by-pass this anti-cheat, then there is no possible way for Blizzard to detect any form of modification or manipulation of their game.

Quick Comments

	Cyanide:	lol
	Zealo:	lol
	FLuX:	lol
	ROCCAT_Savior:	C-C-C-Combo breaker, but also...lol
	ROOTPetraeus:	lolwut
	ToRSpartaz:	OUT
	TCPLemminks:	aaaaand He's gone
	KJH:	are u retarded? i wasnt even streaming at the time and u were cheating so how does this work?

[KJH]

Originally Posted by Whiteluxury

Unfortunately, this is the wrong approach to dealing with these cheaters. Blizzard has said that they will not ban players for stream cheating and stream sniping (http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/191399150). As Blizzard has no affiliation with any livestreaming website, they cannot confirm whether a player is livestreaming or not. Due to this, maphackers who use programs which draw overlays externally to the game (that only read memory), cannot be detected nor banned. There is no solution to dealing with these cheaters at current, . All you can do is talk to them nicely in the game, or just leave as soon as you get in a game with one.

EDIT: Also, any form of cheating software cannot be found by Blizzard as long as the program is Warden-proof, due to legal reasons (privacy). Warden is the anti-cheat that Blizzard uses, as long as the program the cheater is using can by-pass this anti-cheat, then there is no possible way for Blizzard to detect any form of modification or manipulation of their game.

I normally woudlnt try to insult anyone on a forum for obvious reasons but u deserve this, You are a deceiving, conniving, manipulative retarded ****. what drives u to lie to this extent? You have been caught out multiple times yet u remain oblivious to your surroundings. You are either retarded or extremely resilient, i go with the former. ANyway, Mods should just ip ban this retard. But at the same time it wont be surprising if he returns with a brand new identity and character.

[AlopexToT]

"they dont do damage dude" - whiteluxury on observers

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SLCN.Petrify:

that line made me laugh so much

[mGGNemesis]

Well at least we all know a little more... then it makes me wonder, are you doing it to troll the GMs and all other players because you think there aren't going to be any consequences from blizzard anyway.

What is the 'joy' of cheating? Just because it's the internet, principles and integrity can be thrown out of the window? There are players who work so hard for their GMs without cheating. These players and many others who work hard on their promotions all deserve some respect while what you are doing does not.

Of course you probably would had thought about all this and do not care. [Hence all the silly convos e.g. why make observers; they don't do damage.] Doesn't mean that what you are doing is right.

[Fenner]

Got matched up vs Catz on his stream, seems like Whiteluxury was watching. He started messaging me what Catz was doing ingame so I went insta busy and Whiteluxury became the first person ever to go on my ignore list.

It's one thing to cheat yourself, its next level douchebaggery to try involve someone else in your bullshit cheating. Get the **** out.

Whiteluxury has also made about 10 twitch accounts just to try and chat on my stream/snipe me.

[Whiteluxury]

Originally Posted by fray`fenner

Got matched up vs Catz on his stream, seems like Whiteluxury was watching. He started messaging me what Catz was doing ingame so I went insta busy and Whiteluxury became the first person ever to go on my ignore list.

It's one thing to cheat yourself, its next level douchebaggery to try involve someone else in your bullshit cheating. Get the **** out.

Whiteluxury has also made about 10 twitch accounts just to try and chat on my stream/snipe me.

That's obviously a player called LGwhite, and I don't believe CatZ plays on the SEA server. This wasn't me, clearly, as my name in-game is Whiteluxury. And you're correct, I do like watching your stream and having the ability to make civil small talk with other viewers .

Quick Comments

	ChaRiZarD:	When did he say the match was on SEA?
	Aiya:	How do you have losses if you maphack?
	Malice:	Please just leave.. -_-
	Cyanide:	lol
	ROCCAT_Savior:	God. Can someone just ban this idiot already.

[syfChadMann]

Originally Posted by Whiteluxury

That's obviously a player called LGwhite, and I don't believe CatZ plays on the SEA server. This wasn't me, clearly, as my name in-game is Whiteluxury. And you're correct, I do like watching your stream and having the ability to make civil small talk with other viewers .

Firstly - you've confirmed already that YOU are LGwhite. Also I saw you in the stream chat of Catz's stream under the twitch account WhiteLuxurySc2 - not you either?.. you don't have Sc2 at the end of your name?

Grow up mate, stop lying and get the **** out of this community. I rarely believe people should be excluded, people should learn from their mistakes - take evets for example - great result and now a good member of this community. However someone like you will never learn and will never change.
Go away.

[Whiteluxury]

Originally Posted by fray`ChadMann

Firstly - you've confirmed already that YOU are LGwhite. Also I saw you in the stream chat of Catz's stream under the twitch account WhiteLuxurySc2 - not you either?.. you don't have Sc2 at the end of your name?

Grow up mate, stop lying and get the **** out of this community. I rarely believe people should be excluded, people should learn from their mistakes - take evets for example - great result and now a good member of this community. However someone like you will never learn and will never change.
Go away.

No, I am not "LGwhite". I don't even see ANYONE named that on the SEA server. I thought LG was an NA clan or something? Anyway, I don't appreciate your harsh words or your sense of need to make false claims. Also, it'd be very kind of you if you could show me where I have "confirmed that I am LGwhite"?

And you are correct, my twitch account is WhiteluxurySC2 and i've watched CatZ's stream for over a year - I'm even friends with him

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	ROOTPetraeus:	confirmed mate
	syfChadMann:	What ever mate - go away plz?.. kk

[Thrasher]

I feel sorry for you man, you have twice as many games as anyone else in gm and you still need hacks to win. You even claimed to have multiple accounts which makes the whole thing even sadder. It's obvious that you have no life and have to get your kicks out of unfairly beating people. I hope you find a good hobby otherwise you're going to be a sad man....

[nirvAnA]

Got these PMs from a trusted source who sent them to me.

Whiteluxury: I will be taking part in tourneys =) on smurfs, changing IP is easily done with HMA pro.

Whiteluxury: I have many accounts on this server I act differently on all of them.
they are all known I have 4 accounts in GM right now. just to let you know.

I use different IPs on each one, I have a separate skype, etc for each one
I even have accounts on sc2sea that are known for being legitimate, good, players.
I play all 3 races.

I believe the latest developments as well as the following information constitutes a ban. We don't want your kind around Whiteluxury, please seek out attention from reddit or the battle.net forums, that will be a better envrionment for you. If you are not trolling you are clearly suffer from dissociative personality disorders which may get worse over the years. Please seek help.

Quick Comments

	syfChadMann:	This.
	KJH:	gj nirvana :)
	Malice:	:)
	Pox:	let's hope his other personalities aren't quite as sociopathic.
	ROOTPetraeus:	what a horrible person T_T gj nirv!
	ROCCAT_Savior:	http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyoq8mEuO21qf923ko1_250.gif
	ChaRiZarD:	Wooooo, justice
	CasualPlayer:	Nicely done but funny thing is just saw him discussing strats with others on BNet Sc2Sea chat channel earlier today. lol
	FLuX:	ggnore
	Zealo:	♥
	asdfSchnitzel:	♥ Nirvana ♥
	ToRMaverick:	This was all confirmed by LGWhite again on deletes stream last night. .. was proud of it.