[iMSystem]

Not enough evidence to justify calling him a hacker.

Sorry

[Apth]

Originally Posted by System

Not enough evidence to justify calling him a hacker.

Sorry

I can't see anything to point towards hacking. None of his responses are out of the ordinary, and his vision regularly switched to his scouting probe.

[FaDeBadger]

The only real evidence I saw of hacking was his comment. But that's definitely not enough to confirm anything.

[Rockstar]

Yeah, he totally called your early pool and then the 2nd comment was in response to the extra lings coming up... Just judging specifically from his gameplay, he's not diamond material... No diamond would have made the simple mistakes he made which inevitably cost him the game... 1 sentry was all he needed to stop that entire rush, and he didn't even have the forethought to get one.

Can't conclusively call him a hack, however that replays a step in the right direction. Hopefully someone else runs into him and uploads another replay.

Quick Comments

Zealo:

obviously 1 replay not enough, i thought his play sub diamond level also. it's there as evidence if there are more replays later

[PiG]

ppl tilt all the time and talk shit about random and play worse as result. I've called out loads of random players saying "proxygates?" or "mmmmmm 6 pool yum" and it's right like 15% of the time lol..

[Zealo]

yeah it happens, just not usually at the 2 minute mark as they look at my base through the fog.

never meant to suggest that rep is (conclusive or even strong) evidence, it's a 6 minute game. i just found it pretty sus at the tiome. it's there if there's ever any more suspicions posted about that player (or people want to go back and look at reps vs him i guess)

[Nemo]

Originally Posted by Zealo

yeah it happens, just not usually at the 2 minute mark as they look at my base through the fog.

never meant to suggest that rep is (conclusive or even strong) evidence, it's a 6 minute game. i just found it pretty sus at the tiome. it's there if there's ever any more suspicions posted about that player (or people want to go back and look at reps vs him i guess)

Whatever happens you were right to post it. His comment and the blocking of his base at the exact moment your zerglings came out of your base were suspicious enough to take his case under a certain scrutiny.

[syfChase]

Whilst playing Random on NA I spawned as Protoss against a Terran opponent

My opponent said "unlucky, toss like taking candy from a baby" within the opening seconds of the game o.o

Weird thing was He wasn't hacking ~.^
Lucky Guess, maybe? :Þ

[Nemo]

Probably. But at least you can't argue that what he said was true.

[Champi]

Just came across a maphacker from the 'ons' clan on ladder, a protoss player called onsjcapone

replay can be downloaded here: http://drop.sc/104121

Accusations:

1. He sends his first scout probe to my base first, and if u watch the probes rally, he tries to shift click it around the edges of my main to hide it from vision, possibly to try and hide proxies in my base right at the start.

2. at 3.40 he looks into my base to check when my cyber core finnishes and where i put my chrono's

3. at 4.50 i send my stalker to check for a probe to deny any sort of 4gate, said probe magically knows where my stalker is checking without sight, and carefully avoids my stalker so that he can continue his 4gate without being delayed

4. he looks into my base fog of war waaayyy too many times for what should be no reason in a legit game

5. there are other random little nuances that appear randomly throughout the game that i can't confirm are because of maphacking, but are deffinitely suspicious to me, such as sending out 3 probes (not due to bad rally) onto the map to try and possibly set up proxies, and coincidentally knowing when my timing is going to hit him and positioning his army in the correct spot to optimally defend and engage.


I also have a small prejudice against this ons clan, due to the shady and suspicious behaviour they displayed against my SEACL captain TALoSt in regards to lineups on week 2, with the dippa incident, obviously this is unrelated to this game.

(P.S. this is not an accusation due to a rage loss... I KICKED HIS ASS )

Quick Comments

Nemo:

Thanks for exposing a Map Hacker

[Churlz]

The amount of times he was looking in your base champi is pretty crazy. And that probe scout at the start makes a good case. Only thing is why did he build and observer... and used it to scout around the edge of his base that was weird for a maphacker. My opinion is that onsjcapone was hacking unless he can defend himself some way

[Champi]

my guess is that he built an observer for the sole purpose of sniping mine so that i couldnt have vision of his high ground

[Meatex]

In my opinion this is obvious hacking
He sent a second probe before knowing where his opponent was to try to sneak in and constantly looking at the guys base
the observer scouting was to find opponents observer - no idea about map hacks but i guess they don't uncloak units

[ROOTPetraeus]

Originally Posted by TAChampi

I also have a small prejudice against this ons clan, due to the shady and suspicious behaviour they displayed against my SEACL captain TALoSt in regards to lineups on week 2, with the dippa incident, obviously this is unrelated to this game, however i feel it may be necessary to keep a closer eye on this clan.

I don't feel its fair to say this. Its fine to accuse individual members of the clan as long as you have some proof.. but to criticize the actual clan because of a couple of 'incidents', you are going to need some actual proof that their clan itself is behind this.

[syfMiley]

He just keeps looking blindly at your base :/

[Fourby]

Wow just keeps looking at your base over and over, after his attack failed and he was in his base lolol

[Champi]

@Petraeus

yes i realised this as soon as i re-read my post, i have edited it out an apologise to the ons clan for my rash, quick to judge attitude. i wasnt thinking 100 percent clearly as i was mostly focused on outing the maphacker while i was posting.

[crAzerk]

Watching the replay now.

TAChampi vs onsjcapone

1:08 - Glances into fog at your base
2:04 - Glances into fog at your base
2:30 - begins 'perimeter rally' before even confirming it's your spawn location
3:40 - Glances into fog at your base
4:49- 5:00 - micros Probe to avoid your incoming Stalker which he has no vision of
5:40 - Glances into fog at your base
6:05 - Looks into fog at your incoming Zealot to attack it with STalkers
6:59 - Looks into fog at your base
7:14 - Looks into fog at your base
7:32 - Looks nito fog at your base
7:54 - Looks into fog at your base
8: 10 + many more times looking into fog at your base.

I stopped watching the replay because I thought I had enough information, and from this above data it is clear that he can't be hacking, seems perfectly legit!

+ Show +

Who are we kidding? It's extremely blatant maphack and I've added him to the confirmed hacker list in the OP

Quick Comments

Champi:

thanks mate :)

[wTlzq]

i told him about this thread on bnet, he says he would upload more replays.

[crAzerk]

@Izq who are you referring to? Jcapone? From the replay submitted it is conclusive that maphack was used in that game against Champi, and so his only line of defence would be something like what WillChen/Fiction tried.

I've also updated the OP with the suspected hackers from last time (e.g. Fiction, Ghost) being moved to confirmed hackers, if they want to clear their name they should post more replays as requested from before.