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Old Thu, 19th-Jan-2012, 11:30 PM Who's Who:   Race: Clan: iRL  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 1,494 # 1
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I'll have a quick look

What league is he in btw?

1) The build is a weird one , but his droning is not optimal either. Thus doesn't say anything much, just that he doesn't know his openers well.
He doesn't glance into fog or whatever, and his reactions to your SG weren't immediate (e.g. putting down an evolution chamber upon seeing your SG) This is assuming he uses some Production tab hack, because he never glances at your base.

2) ~9 mins he loses his OL to your phoenix, doesn't even pull OLs back when your Phoenix are out.

3) No pre-emptive Hydra placement to your Phoenix harass

4) 23:33 You are right that Mothership snipe is HIGHLY sus. In fact, it's plain retard, there's no other explanation for doing that.

Putting him on 'Suspected hackers' list, until I get the green light to 'promote' him to confirmed hacker.

Guys, watch the replay, just skip to 23:33 and watch from there onwards. There's no 'fluke' or 'coincidence' or 'luck' in that move, it's pretty blatant - He moves his Corruptors into the main base of the Protoss for no apparent reason , which was perfectly timed for the popping out of the Mothership.
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Old Thu, 19th-Jan-2012, 11:37 PM BnetId: scope 717  Race: Total Posts Made: 39 # 2
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He is in high diamond. I am in low/mid masters somewhere around there.

Yeah nothing really seemed that hackerish when I was playing until the mothership bit. That bit really freaked me out and made me watch the replay after.

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Old Thu, 19th-Jan-2012, 11:54 PM Race: Total Posts Made: 322 # 3
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Ok, as I haven't spoken to FictioN yet I can't tell you guys anything at the moment. I'm sorry if I might come off as biased in the discussion as he is my own member but for now all I can say is that I have to agree the thing at 23.33 is pretty suspicious... I will talk to him tommorow to get more details.
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Old Fri, 20th-Jan-2012, 12:26 AM Who's Who:   Race: Location: Adelaide, Australia  Total Posts Made: 1,638 # 4
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Kalikah was laddering as as she does today on stream. She came up against a guy called "CCKPUNCHER". When she popped as a , and he types "hello zerg"

.........

Checked profile after the game, not a single 1v1 loss in the past few weeks and 20+ wins recently. If you come accross this dick, report his hackin' ass and get him banned from our precious ladder.

Proof: http://www.twitch.tv/kalikah/b/305931431?t=16m42s

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Old Fri, 20th-Jan-2012, 3:45 AM BnetId: EveVendetta  Race: Clan: Eve  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 78 # 5
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Regarding the fiction case, I disagree with iaguz and system. I don't see any need to provide more replays. 1 replay is sufficient as long as the action is conclusive. The perfect timing of sniping the mothership and just waiting for it to pop is more than sufficient in my opinion.

Of course, it is up to you admins if you guys have set it as a ground rule!

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This is correct. People should stop wasting posts and f***ing watch the replay before making pointless comments.
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Old Fri, 20th-Jan-2012, 5:21 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: Apth.767  Race: Location: Auckland, New Zealand  Total Posts Made: 414 # 6
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Regarding the fiction case, I disagree with iaguz and system. I don't see any need to provide more replays. 1 replay is sufficient as long as the action is conclusive. The perfect timing of sniping the mothership and just waiting for it to pop is more than sufficient in my opinion.

Of course, it is up to you admins if you guys have set it as a ground rule!
On the evidence of a single replay, one could still argue his actions are coincidental.

Two at least.
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Old Fri, 20th-Jan-2012, 6:27 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: EU.Nemo #368  Race: Location: Paris, France  Total Posts Made: 752 # 7
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We have watched the replay with Apth : http://fr.twitch.tv/nemoulysses/b/305969359

We are pretty convinced it's Map Hacking. Apth would still want another replay to be 100% sure. For me it's enough proof. Without explanations, the guy should go to the Black List.
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Old Fri, 20th-Jan-2012, 7:53 AM BnetId: WillChen  Race: Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 11 # 8
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Hey guys, I am the owner of the account 'iVnFictioN' and I admit it was hacking after looking at the replay, however it was not me playing on the account. That night I was at a friends place and played one or two games on the account before giving it over to one of my friends to play on before I went to get something to eat with a group of friends. This is when I believe he thought to himself 'oh it's not my account so lets have some fun with hacks'. Anyway I will fully accept any punishment as I should've known better than to leave my account on (he has previously hacked in CS), and sorry for any inconvenience this has caused, especially to scope who was in that game
EDIT: and i have asked my friend and he admits that he was hacking on my account
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Old Fri, 20th-Jan-2012, 8:14 AM Who's Who:   BnetId: EU.Nemo #368  Race: Location: Paris, France  Total Posts Made: 752 # 9
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Hey guys, I am the owner of the account 'iVnFictioN' and I admit it was hacking after looking at the replay, however it was not me playing on the account. That night I was at a friends place and played one or two games on the account before giving it over to one of my friends to play on before I went to get something to eat with a group of friends. This is when I believe he thought to himself 'oh it's not my account so lets have some fun with hacks'. Anyway I will fully accept any punishment as I should've known better than to leave my account on (he has previously hacked in CS), and sorry for any inconvenience this has caused, especially to scope who was in that game
EDIT: and i have asked my friend and he admits that he was hacking on my account
WillChen, I know it's hard to admit to maphacking, but if you did it yourself, better to change your version now before 10 people come with replay showing you hacking.

If not, just give your last 10 replays (made before the first accusation) (and all of them, we will check in your history) so we can check that you were not hacking and it was indeed your friend.

But believe me it's 100 times better for you to tell the truth right now.

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Yep, if it's your mate understood, but if it was you come clean early rather than get caught
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heard that kinda story too many times before
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Old Fri, 20th-Jan-2012, 12:07 PM BnetId: FaDeBadger.403  Race: Clan: FaDe  Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 531 # 10
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With all due respect WillChen, you can see how your situation seems very "convenient" after being caught hacking.

We can only go off the evidence we have, and it's not looking good for you.
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Old Fri, 20th-Jan-2012, 12:13 PM BnetId: WillChen  Race: Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 11 # 11
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yes, I do concede it doesn't look very good at the moment and everything looks very coincidental, but I insist that this is purely coincidental and not a fabricated story, that being said I would like to ask what you guys are looking for and how I can prove my innocence
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Old Fri, 20th-Jan-2012, 12:21 PM BnetId: wTlzq.495  Race: Clan: wT  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 207 # 12
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Maybe you could get that friend to come forward, since he obviously plays sc2 as well, with his own account and replays, so that people in this thread can compare the skill level and "hotkeys" with the one you provided.
-If you say he dont have his own account and only play sparingly on yours then it really looks suspicious.

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Old Fri, 20th-Jan-2012, 12:50 PM BnetId: scope 717  Race: Total Posts Made: 39 # 13
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Ok say you said that you were at your friends house and played 1 or 2 games, you actually played 5 games across the space of time of 3-4 hours excluding the hacker friend game. On the side of note of his. I would like to obs a game of his friend playing WITH fiction in the game. Just to stop from playing on his NA account and saying it is is friend. If his friend cannot produce the same style play as we have seen over numerous replays...well then...
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Old Fri, 20th-Jan-2012, 1:16 PM BnetId: wTlzq.495  Race: Clan: wT  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 207 # 14
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Wait how did u get hold of the replays if u played it at your friend's house?

edit: ignore if im not making sense, i may have misinterpreted something

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+1 for explanation.. AFAIK, the replays aren't based on a cloud system..
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Old Fri, 20th-Jan-2012, 1:30 PM BnetId: scope 717  Race: Total Posts Made: 39 # 15
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^ that makes complete sense
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Old Fri, 20th-Jan-2012, 1:38 PM BnetId: TAEdarus.427  Race: Location: Ballarat, Australia  Total Posts Made: 449 # 16
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Wait how did u get hold of the replays if u played it at your friend's house?
Apparently he cannot contact his friend but he can get the replays...
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Old Fri, 20th-Jan-2012, 3:25 PM BnetId: WillChen  Race: Location: Sydney  Total Posts Made: 11 # 17
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Apparently he cannot contact his friend but he can get the replays...
It was in the morning when I asked him to send me the first few replays... it's been quite some time since then, I don't mean to sound rude but people have commitments in real life and he is currently busy, as I have been the past few hours

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Old Fri, 20th-Jan-2012, 2:29 PM Race: Location: Perth, Australia  Total Posts Made: 70 # 18
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I had posted and read your previous post which you had changed. So I hadn't seen your new post.
If your new to the community maybe tone down the negativity and show the respect to ppl like you said in your original post.

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Old Fri, 20th-Jan-2012, 2:47 PM Race: Location: Perth, Australia  Total Posts Made: 70 # 19
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No probs iVnStinger, all good.
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Old Fri, 20th-Jan-2012, 3:51 PM BnetId: wTlzq.495  Race: Clan: wT  Location: Singapore  Total Posts Made: 207 # 20
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It was in the morning when I asked him to send me the first few replays... it's been quite some time since then, I don't mean to sound rude but people have commitments in real life and he is currently busy, as I have been the past few hours
i believe TAEdarus was referring to the 5 replays u uploaded.

But in any case, you still have to
- prove that your friend's replays isn't just from your NA account(since its possible for you to just log into a NA account and play some games)

If possible u could get him to play a game against you on the SEA server and post the replay here for everyone to analysis the hotkeys and playstyle, i believ that would justify your statements( shouldn't be difficult since u are able to play on the SEA server at his house)
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