[EXCL]

Originally Posted by LordByrnsy

lol.. its up to EXCL if i go up first =)

If you dudes wanna hold hands in the first game thats fine by me just show up on time!

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FaDeHellfyre:

Yaaaaaay. <3

[TAEdarus]

Originally Posted by ChadMann

Because of the BM from Random during the game.. both teams were punished - minimat removed from the league and Clanless not receiving the win for the game. so the match was replayed, with neither Random or minimat playing - this was agreed by the admins, myself and some TA guys (I think riiChard and/or deL were aware of this at the time?...)

I'd still propose the match be replayed then based off that, as FaDe A have been negatively affected by Eskimo's "smurfing". I mean, the record stands they went 4-2, so they're on a lower score than they could potentially be.

[syfChadMann]

Originally Posted by TAEdarus

I'd still propose the match be replayed then based off that, as FaDe A have been negatively affected by Eskimo's "smurfing". I mean, the record stands they went 4-2, so they're on a lower score than they could potentially be.

I must disagree - if you replay the match and TA wins then its not good for FaDe A - they have the win.. and 4-2 is acceptable... If any change to that result was to take place, It would be to give FaDe A a 4-0 win...
But as that was TA's first Smurfing incident I think the current result is acceptable.. but thats just my opinion.

However, you could rematch from the point Eskimo joined the match, with FaDe A at 3-0 and TA's last player being sent out...seems ZeroAbsolute is the smurf killer..

[TAEdarus]

You speak a good point sir, I think i'll leave this one to the other admins to decide (since I can't make the call as its my team involved and you all know my position already lol).

Oh and also, although I've already raised this with the admins I want it officially known here, that the "smurfing" done by Eskimo was something done for portraits (which he was doing long ago as well), not to rank-tank... I mean, if he was genuinely smurfing he wouldn't have then let himself get promoted into Diamond now would he?

I'm not complaining or saying the outcome should change there, I just don't want him getting a bad name for something that wasn't genuine smurfing.

As for Minimat, NFI what he was doing, quite disappointed there actually.

[syfChadMann]

Originally Posted by TAEdarus

As for Minimat, NFI what he was doing, quite disappointed there actually.

tbh - Eskimo's smurfing isn't an issue in regards to his character or what not - but his skill level is higher than BSG. This was discovered during the TtCC BSG event and he was removed from that tournament in the winners bracket finals. Smurfing can be a sinister act where people enjoy dominating lower league players so they purposely drop rank to do so, the next level down is what Eskimo did, which was to drop league to get easier wins and faster wins - but only losing in games that last 2 seconds. saving time to farm portraits etc.

minimat's smurfing case was even less severe than that, minimat was a plat (or diamond?) Terran, that tanked losses to get to a lower league while he learnt Zerg. However, this is against the rules of BSGCL and minimat had to be taken out of the tournament - however, a less severe penalty was applied to TA because his smurfing wasn't that bad..

[TAEdarus]

Yeah, and i'm sure the rest of TA's BSGCL team are thankful that we didn't get snapped harder for it.

Its been a tough season for us.

Although results-wise we've been better generally, overall we're not doing as well as we should be / could be / would be expected to be by the community.

This will change!

Season 3 will see TA with a new team captain and lineup (as poor Edarus sadly got into Platinum... don't ask me how, I haven't laddered since season 1 and I lost placement and WHAM promotion?? lulwut) and expect us to take the cake for the next season.

I guess that'll be announced soonish anyways

[KAshadowz]

the new rule doesnt seem too bad, but can easily affect the smaller team by heaps. It sounds good in theory but would kill alot of teams
most weeks I've been rotating the silvers and they've been pretty fine, would make it hard for me to final boss though :P lol owells I wont be here next season anyways

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FaDeZerO:

[TAEdarus]

Yeah its still something in the development stage, and I believe it will require a tweak or something to make it more feasible for the smaller teams.
Thanks for the input =)

[TAEdarus]

Its on tonight peeps (unless you rescheduled)!!!

Lets go TA, lets go *UH UH!*

[syfChadMann]

Clanless "UpWaiting" 4 vs QED 0
UpWaiting > Krrn Backwater Gulch
UpWaiting > DeNile Antiga Shipyards
UpWaiting > QEDJenkins Tal'Darim Altar
UpWaiting > QEDFridge Shattered Temple

First All kill for the league so big congrats to UpWaiting - he's come along way since joining and practising with the team!.. I gave him builds and instructions before each game and he carried them out perfectly for some great results - so congrats to him!!

GG to QED aswell!

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krycek:

congrats to clanless and to Upwaiting XD

[Synizta]

Originally Posted by ChadMann

Clanless "UpWaiting" 4 vs QED 0
UpWaiting > Krrn Backwater Gulch
UpWaiting > DeNile Antiga Shipyards
UpWaiting > QEDJenkins Tal'Darim Altar
UpWaiting > QEDFridge Shattered Temple

First All kill for the league so big congrats to UpWaiting - he's come along way since joining and practising with the team!.. I gave him builds and instructions before each game and he carried them out perfectly for some great results - so congrats to him!!

GG to QED aswell!

Actaully, i need to correct you, not the first allkill.
I know of atleast two others this already (not including Walk Overs/Smurfs)
Sorry to burst your bubble :P

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syfChadMann:

First 4-0 by starting player. first 4-0 is what I ment (not considering W/O's)

[ZC.EvilSWAT]

Originally Posted by ToRSynizta

Actaully, i need to correct you, not the first allkill.
I know of atleast two others this already (not including Walk Overs/Smurfs)
Sorry to burst your bubble :P

But it was our team's first all-kill! A-ha!

(I'm trying to save yer arse here Chad you owe me a drink)

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syfChadMann:

Done - beer is waiting for you.

[TAEdarus]

I think Chad means the first one without any losses for the winning team.... if I wasn't on a tablet id check lol

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	ZC.EvilSWAT:	Yeah what he said! Uh-huh!
	syfChadMann:	That is what I mean.. yes :D
	krycek:

[Frogmite]

Originally Posted by ChadMann

Clanless "UpWaiting" 4 vs QED 0
UpWaiting > Krrn Backwater Gulch
UpWaiting > DeNile Antiga Shipyards
UpWaiting > QEDJenkins Tal'Darim Altar
UpWaiting > QEDFridge Shattered Temple

First All kill for the league so big congrats to UpWaiting - he's come along way since joining and practising with the team!.. I gave him builds and instructions before each game and he carried them out perfectly for some great results - so congrats to him!!

GG to QED aswell!

Whao GG Upwaiting!
Is 500 your character code ? Because it seems i can't find you on Bnet

[syfChadMann]

Originally Posted by Frogmite

Whao GG Upwaiting!
Is 500 your character code ? Because it seems i can't find you on Bnet

Yeah when he first signed up he was Golide.500 but he changed his name to UpWaiting - not sure if his character code is the same..

[krycek]

if changed name then generally the cc does change it happened to me >.<

[FaDeZerO]

Originally Posted by TAEdarus

Yeah its not going to be implemented at the arse-end of the season, I'd just been away so long I didn't realise we hadn't yet implemented it!

I definitely do see the issue for teams with limited rosters, I guess the rule either needs a tweak or teams just need some fresh new faces!
*Looks at the Clanless becoming members of clans after the season...?*



No, basically the idea for the rule was that any player who won 3 or more games a week could not play in the next round (but the one after that was fine).

The idea came to me when, to be honest, TA made it to the prelims in season one off my own back alone as only two other players won games, and they only won one each! (I want everyone in the team to be integral and important, not just single players holding everyone else up and skewing the results).

But yes, this rule is not implemented and I'm just seeking feedback on the idea for the moment, so don't stress!

I for one am in agreeance with the implementation of this rule for next season (even though I won't be here D: ) but in my defense I am not the only one to win games for FaDe A and I try to let other members of my team shine. If you check the results, I really only play once a fortnight anyway and when I do, it's as the LAST player for the team or out of sheer desperation (With myself included we only have 4 regular players).

However, what Ricochet says is right and I think that if such a rule were to be implemented, special consideration would have to be given to teams such as FaDe A who really only have 4 or 5 consistent members and in addition to this, have wasted away our subs on players who have never shown up after enlisting.

[sRFullstop]

ZerO disappoint because he can't play after he sweeps the whole team :O

I agree with ZerO. If this rule is implemented it will make small clans unable to play. Also many people who signed up have never ever showed up, which means that we only have a small group of dedicated, ready-to-play players every week. If certain ones are banned (for example the sweeper or the best one in the team) from playing the following week, isn't it a bit unfair? Basically you are disallowing players to play for a certain week because they have practiced hard, made an effort to commit, and won for the team?

If this rule was to be implemented we would need an option to kick people off our team and be able to replace them with new ones without limit, so any inactive people will be replaced.

[DeNile]

What about if a bronze or silver all kills he is considered gold has to play third at the earliest. Almost a medium ground option I think .

[TAEdarus]

Originally Posted by Fullstop

ZerO disappoint because he can't play after he sweeps the whole team :O

I agree with ZerO. If this rule is implemented it will make small clans unable to play. Also many people who signed up have never ever showed up, which means that we only have a small group of dedicated, ready-to-play players every week. If certain ones are banned (for example the sweeper or the best one in the team) from playing the following week, isn't it a bit unfair? Basically you are disallowing players to play for a certain week because they have practiced hard, made an effort to commit, and won for the team?

If this rule was to be implemented we would need an option to kick people off our team and be able to replace them with new ones without limit, so any inactive people will be replaced.

Personally I think the core issue is more having an active, reliable roster for a good competition.

I do see and agree with the point that it would disadvantage (almost punish) players who have won because they put a heap of effort into their game... Perhaps something like they must play last the next week, rather than can't play at all?

As fun as all-kills are for your team, it means not everyone gets a go and in itself makes a team (in effect) a one-man venture regardless (again disadvantaging the teams as a whole in that respect.)