[Frogmite]

Hello everybody,

We will try to organize online tournaments of Magic The Gathering.
Dates for tournaments will be decided on a further date

How?
We will be using the software Magic workstation.

+ [Magic Workstation] +

Download link: http://www.magicworkstation.com/downloads.php
Download CROP pictures: http://www.slightlymagic.net
Download FULL pictures: http://mws.mtgbr.com/full-01.htm

This software is good because you can use all the cards in the database for free. The drawbacks being that it's not automated, everything being manual and that's why the player will need skype to play (but actually it's fun).

You can see below how it looks on my comp:

Rules
Latest rules can be downloaded there: http://www.wizards.com/magic/rules/E...lebook_web.pdf

Planning next session

Trial Session - Draft
Date: Tuesday 22nd November
Time: 9.30pm AEDT, 6.30PM SGT
Fomat : Draft- Magic 2012

If you want to join this session, add me on skype gr0alex, then just post into this thread indicating your interest . PM me your skype details. We will keep a group of 8 members first.

List of club members:
I give priority to players that gave me their skype details (see list below)

+ [Club members] +

1. Frogmite
2. Maynarde
3. Erasmus
4. Dracover
5. Delraich

Steps to do play MTG:

1. Register on ccgdecks.com: http://ccgdecks.com/board/profile.php?mode=register
2. Download magic workstation: http://www.magicworkstation.com/downloads.php
3. Setup MWS (Magic WorkStation): http://ggxgames.blogspot.com/2011/06...for-magic.html
4. Connect on skype on tuesday 9.30pm aedt for the draft
5. Make your draft deck for the night http://ccgdecks.com/draft_gen.php

See you for next session

[Maynarde]

Good movement Frog, happy to be a part of this and re-live the teen nerd days.

Old mate Erasmus will have a chance to beat me at a game for once

[Bugalugs McScruffin]

Haha, never played proper Magic before, but I'm keen.

I'll get back to you on my Skype name. o_O

[crAzerk]

Any Pokemon TCG contest?

[Bugalugs McScruffin]

Originally Posted by crAzerk

Any Pokemon TCG contest?

Pokemon TCG annoys me these days.

[NvPinder]

I kinda stopped following pokemon after the first 150, so I have no idea what any of the new cards do, sorry.

edit: crazerk ruined my troll. ****.

[Admin]

omg so old school!

[crAzerk]

Rofl pinder xD

@bug I've no idea what pokemon TCG is like since 10 years ago

[DeNile]

wow i remeber when i used to enetr sealed deck tournament in brisbane lol. will be willing to play again for sure

[noobinater]

Are we going to be playing standard format? Haven't played MTG since Ravnica, have there been any significant rule changes since then (besides renaming mechanics)?

[PantlessPete]

I quit magic last year some time, but have fun you guys! =)

Originally Posted by noobinater

Are we going to be playing standard format? Haven't played MTG since Ravnica, have there been any significant rule changes since then (besides renaming mechanics)?

Main rule change is that combat damage no longer goes on the stack. You used to be able to react to combat damage, now you can't. Honestly in the new sets it isn't a huge deal, because there aren't cards that you would really want to use right before damage goes on, you can just Giant Growth your dude after blockers are declared. Basically as soon as you say "1 point to Deadly Recluse and 3 to Giant Spider" the damage is applied.

Oh and you'll need to learn about planeswalkers. (unique/legendary) Permanent cards that do all kinds of crazy things and have loyalty counters. You can use 1 ability per turn as a sorcery at the cost of loyalty counters (some abilities add counters, some take), when your planeswalker is out of loyalty counters he goes to the discard pile. Any spell that can target a player can target a planeswalker (but you must say targetting my opponent and redirecting damage to his planeswalker), and when you attack with a creature you must declare if you are attacking your opponent or the planeswalker.

Removed from the game = exiled
The board = battlefield (so instead of "as enters play" its "as enters the battlefield")

[ZraF]

Originally Posted by PantlessPete

I quit magic last year some time, but have fun you guys! =)



Main rule change is that combat damage no longer goes on the stack. You used to be able to react to combat damage, now you can't. Honestly in the new sets it isn't a huge deal, because there aren't cards that you would really want to use right before damage goes on, you can just Giant Growth your dude after blockers are declared. Basically as soon as you say "1 point to Deadly Recluse and 3 to Giant Spider" the damage is applied.

Oh and you'll need to learn about planeswalkers. (unique/legendary) Permanent cards that do all kinds of crazy things and have loyalty counters. You can use 1 ability per turn as a sorcery at the cost of loyalty counters (some abilities add counters, some take), when your planeswalker is out of loyalty counters he goes to the discard pile. Any spell that can target a player can target a planeswalker (but you must say targetting my opponent and redirecting damage to his planeswalker), and when you attack with a creature you must declare if you are attacking your opponent or the planeswalker.

Removed from the game = exiled
The board = battlefield (so instead of "as enters play" its "as enters the battlefield")

Also note that a planeswalker named "Jace" is very imba, imagine Colossus that shoots air.

[Dracover]

Originally Posted by PantlessPete

I quit magic last year some time, but have fun you guys! =)



Main rule change is that combat damage no longer goes on the stack. You used to be able to react to combat damage, now you can't. Honestly in the new sets it isn't a huge deal, because there aren't cards that you would really want to use right before damage goes on, you can just Giant Growth your dude after blockers are declared. Basically as soon as you say "1 point to Deadly Recluse and 3 to Giant Spider" the damage is applied.

Oh and you'll need to learn about planeswalkers. (unique/legendary) Permanent cards that do all kinds of crazy things and have loyalty counters. You can use 1 ability per turn as a sorcery at the cost of loyalty counters (some abilities add counters, some take), when your planeswalker is out of loyalty counters he goes to the discard pile. Any spell that can target a player can target a planeswalker (but you must say targetting my opponent and redirecting damage to his planeswalker), and when you attack with a creature you must declare if you are attacking your opponent or the planeswalker.

Removed from the game = exiled
The board = battlefield (so instead of "as enters play" its "as enters the battlefield")

There's also the change in the blocking rules.

[TAhackdZ]

Im in, I'll put together online version of ultimate lock-down deck.


Leyline of the Void (no graveyard) + Mists of Stagnation (Can only attack with creatures = to number of cards in graveyard) + Web of Inertia (can only untap cards = to number of cards in graveyard)

Yeah that's right, the ultimate troll deck, stand there and do nothing while I kill you slowly with a 1/1 creature.....WOOT!

That is assuming tourney is type 1.... (extended?) or Type 2 (Current)

[Frogmite]

OK so i register the following players:

DeNile
Ridiculisk
Bugalugs McScruffin
Noobinater

Don't forget to send me your skype details by pm.

The different competitive types are as follow:

T1 aka vintage = all the cards allowed, banned cards are allowed but one per deck only (Mox, black lotus....)
T1.5 aka legacy = all the cards of T1 without the banned cards.
T1.X aka extended = last four years of extension sets
T2 aka standard = the two last extension sets
Block=current extension set only

There are others formats but not so competitive.
As we are all former players i propose we play in legacy.

+ [list of banned cards in legacy] +

1. Black Lotus
2. Ancestral Recall
3. Time Walk
4. Mox Sapphire
5. Mox Jet
6. Mox Ruby
7. Mox Emerald
8. Mox Pearl
9. Timetwister

[|Erasmus|]

Originally Posted by Frogmite

OK so i register the following players:

DeNile
Ridiculisk
Bugalugs McScruffin
Noobinater

Don't forget to send me your skype details by pm.

The different competitive types are as follow:

T1 aka vintage = all the cards allowed, banned cards are allowed but one per deck only (Mox, black lotus....)
T1.5 aka legacy = all the cards of T1 without the banned cards.
T1.X aka extended = last four years of extension sets
T2 aka standard = the two last extension sets
Block=current extension set only

There are others formats but not so competitive.
As we are all former players i propose we play in legacy.

+ [list of banned cards in legacy] +

1. Black Lotus
2. Ancestral Recall
3. Time Walk
4. Mox Sapphire
5. Mox Jet
6. Mox Ruby
7. Mox Emerald
8. Mox Pearl
9. Timetwister

Limited formats are best for this sort of thing... Constructed takes a lot of effort if you want to know a format/matchups even fairly well. Limited just requires some decent card evaluation (obviously knowing the sets well and the good threats/options your opponent could have with various mana floating helps. but it's not as massive as knowing a constructed format).

If we can get 8 and do a standard 8 man draft or something? There are websites that will simulate a draft, and we then all submit the deck from it (the deck comes with a uuid (or something) for the draft, so people won't cheat) and play those decks through workstation...

[Frogmite]

Originally Posted by |Erasmus|

Limited formats are best for this sort of thing... Constructed takes a lot of effort if you want to know a format/matchups even fairly well. Limited just requires some decent card evaluation (obviously knowing the sets well and the good threats/options your opponent could have with various mana floating helps. but it's not as massive as knowing a constructed format).

If we can get 8 and do a standard 8 man draft or something? There are websites that will simulate a draft, and we then all submit the deck from it (the deck comes with a uuid (or something) for the draft, so people won't cheat) and play those decks through workstation...

Yeah good idea , if players prefer to play limited i am fine with that . Do you have the adress for the automated draft?

I still propose we gather on tuesday at least for trying to set-up the software for everyone.
There are default decks going along with the soft. If you prefer mighty decks i will send them to you through skype.

[Delraich]

There are others formats but not so competitive.
As we are all former players i propose we play in legacy.

+ [list of banned cards in legacy] +

1. Black Lotus
2. Ancestral Recall
3. Time Walk
4. Mox Sapphire
5. Mox Jet
6. Mox Ruby
7. Mox Emerald
8. Mox Pearl
9. Timetwister

[/QUOTE]

Is this list complete for legacy? Is survival of the fittest still legal in legacy?
http://magiccards.info/query?q=!Survival+of+the+Fittest

[MooZfY]

Iaguz is going to be so happy..

[Cyanide]

I'll submit a couple of decks that i used to play with casually with my friends
i won't be around to play though, so feel free to try it ot. Hopefully i can remember my deck. ^_^

[ROOT`iaguz]

Legacy eh?

I submit this:

• 4 Past in Flames
• 4 Dark Ritual
• 4 Lion's Eye Diamond
• 4 Rite of Flame
• 2 Seething Song
• 1 Dryad Arbor
• 1 Bloodghast
• 4 Gitaxian Probe
• 4 Cabal Therapy
• 2 Entomb
• 4 Glimpse the Unthinkable
• 4 Manamorphose
• 4 Brainstorm
• 1 Tendrils of Agony
• 1 Burning Wish
• 2 Wooded Foothills
• 4 Verdant Catacombs
• 4 Misty Rainforest
• 2 Underground Sea
• 2 Badlands
• 2 Volcanic Island
• Sideboard
• 1 Tendrils of Agony
• 2 Burning Wish
• 4 Dark Confidant
• 1 Ancient Grudge
• 1 Coffin Purge
• 1 Bayou
• 1 Shattering Spree
• 2 Empty the Warrens
• 1 Reverent Silence
• 1 Darkblast

Quick Comments

	Bugalugs McScruffin:	Yoink. I'm stealing this deck. :)
	LennX:	Tendrils of Agony? I approve!

[Frogmite]

Originally Posted by xGKingiaguz

Legacy eh?

I submit this:

I put you in.

Allright we have our 8 players for our first session on next tuesday (see OP).

This first session will basically be dedicated to the set-up of the software. You can pm me your skype details or add me gr0alex.

[ROOT`iaguz]

Ah, Jace the Mind Sculptor...

This guy describes Jace much better then I could, discussing a newer version of Jace, Jace, Memory Adept. (a common theme of Planeswalkers is multiple versions of the same character, ie, 3 versions of Chandra, 3 versions of Jace, 2 Ajani's, 2 Sarhkon Vol's, 3 Garruk's, 2 Lilliana's, 2 Elspeth's. Each planeswalker is different but you cannot have 2 of the same on the field or else Legend rule triggers).

You Tube

You Tube

Quick Comments

Maynarde:

LOL

[Dracover]

woo a legacy mtg tournament. so IN!!!!

time to go through my decks and make something up.

[Delraich]

I'm keen to play as well, but I haven't played for years (since Mirrodin). I'm keen for either the draft idea or legacy as suggested, but I'll go with whatever is going. I would prefer less options because it will be easier to read up on what decks that are even viable nowadays and then go through the cards etc. Also, depending on what we will play in the end will determine how many images (.rar files) I download from the links suggested above. Going with legacy might mean downloading a TON of sets.

I happened to bump into a MtG tournament a few weeks ago and started chatting to the dude there to find out if anything changed... and yeah, damage on the stack (mog fanatic now apparently sucks) is gone amongst other things. Those planewalker dudes look confusing but are apparently really powerful.

[ROOT`iaguz]

Survival is NOT legal in legacy.

[Dracover]

it got banned after some new cards got printed making the meta ridiculous.

[ROOT`iaguz]

Wasn't it vengevine that fucked up survival?

[Dracover]

Originally Posted by xGKingiaguz

Wasn't it vengevine that fucked up survival?

Well it was indeed a powerful combo but i dont think it was any more powerful than many other combos. the problem was it created a meta that was "play survivine" or play a counter to it.

[Delraich]

man, i've downloaded 20 sets already... and i haven't even started tried to put something together. i hope i like the deck i'm gonna try because i have no idea if its any good!

[ROOT`iaguz]

Actually, sod it, submitting this list

• 1 Flame-Kin Zealot
• 4 Golgari Grave-Troll
• 4 Golgari Thug
• 3 Ichorid
• 4 Narcomoeba
• 4 Putrid Imp
• 1 Sphinx of Lost Truths
• 4 Stinkweed Imp
• 4 Bridge from Below
• 3 Firestorm
• 4 Breakthrough
• 4 Cabal Therapy
• 3 Careful Study
• 3 Dread Return
• 4 Cephalid Coliseum
• 4 City of Brass
• 4 Gemstone Mine
• 2 Tarnished Citadel
• Sideboard
• 1 Ancestor's Chosen
• 1 Angel of Despair
• 4 Faerie Macabre
• 3 Ancient Grudge
• 3 Chain of Vapor
• 1 Nature's Claim
• 1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
• 1 Iona, Shield of Emeria

Prepare for some loooooooooooooooooooooooooong first turns.

[Delraich]

Is this any good - gonna test it out as soon as i work out how to use the program:

2 Maelstrom Pulse
3 Cabal Therapy
3 Pernicious Deed
2 Recurring Nightmare
1 Spike Weaver
1 Grave Titan
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
1 Deranged Hermit
1 Wickerbough Elder
3 Veteran Explorer
1 Kitchen Finks
4 Eternal Witness
4 Wall of Blossoms
2 Polluted Delta
1 Phyrexian Tower
1 Dryad Arbor
4 Misty Rainforest
3 Bayou
4 Verdant Catacombs
3 Forest
4 Swamp
2 Garruk, Primal Hunter
4 Green Sun's Zenith
4 Hymn to Tourach

[Sedz]

Is it only going to be legacy? I started playing back in Zendikar block so I have nfi about anything prior to that.

[Delraich]

I found this link which helped me set up magic workstation:
http://ggxgames.blogspot.com/2011/06...for-magic.html

Quick Comments

Frogmite:

good link

[DeNile]

Hey if iaguz wants to go in instead of me that's for the best I can't commit to playing that late every week lol. Cause I get up at 4 30 for work. I'm still going to download and catch up on the rules to play if u need an extra prac buddy lol but yeah weeknights that late start to get difficult sorry, cause I know the games won't end till 12, I always miss out on the good stuff due to work

[DeNile]

Wow also ping to pull out my actual cards to find out when I last played cause I think it was well before any of these decks lol. It was about 7 years ago lol.

[nirvAnA]

Slightly out of topic.

I still kept all my magic cards in a nice little box and haven't thrown them away. I played casually for about a year a LONG TIME ago and my prizes cards were a seira angel and shivan dragon which probably are terrible but they were the best i managed to get lol! i also bought a "pro deck" which had this really awesome "milestone?" idea of grinding out your opponents deck till he had no cards left and you win. basically had lots of red/white pacification spells and it was so fun to play

[|Erasmus|]

I've neve really played much legacy... only really standard/extended when I was active. It's a really big and rather complicated format with a lot of decks, and a lot of complicated combo decks which are relatively easier to play than to counter (even with the right cards to do so, there are somewhat specific things to hit with targeted discard/counters). So I don't really want to bother with a legacy format, mostly just because if Iaguz knows the format well enough to just pick a deck quickly like that, I don't think anyone has the time to learn the format well enough to beat him consistently.

As for drafting... just use ccgdecks.com and just make everyone post their game logs etc. so you can be sure they are using the decks they drafted. The attachment shows the deck id and draft id and stuff that you get from it. It also lets you export your drafted deck straight into a MWS deck file.

[DeNile]

The best card I got was I think anihlate foil it was one black one whit and one colors destroy target creature or permant. I was told at the time a foil one was good wonder if I till have it in good nick lol mini gold mine

[cruxis]

Oh damn, don't know how I missed this thread. Would have been keen to play with my Affinity deck. Will be keen for the next one.

[Frogmite]

Ok guys,

I think i completely love Erasmus' idea.

I believe it's better we start by one or two drafts sessions using ccg website http://ccgdecks.com/board/profile.php?mode=register . So we will learn how to use the software, try to remember/learn the rules.

Once these drafts sessions are completed, we will decide on a date/format for our tournament.

Steps to do for now:

1. Register on ccgdecks.com: http://ccgdecks.com/board/profile.php?mode=register
2. Download magic workstation: http://www.magicworkstation.com/downloads.php
3. Setup MWS (Magic WorkStation): http://ggxgames.blogspot.com/2011/06...for-magic.html
4. Connect on skype on tuesday 9.30pm aedt for the draft
5. Make your draft deck for the night http://ccgdecks.com/draft_gen.php

[Maynarde]

Originally Posted by Frogmite

Ok guys,

I think i completely love Erasmus' idea.

I believe it's better we start by one or two drafts sessions using ccg website http://ccgdecks.com/board/profile.php?mode=register . So we will learn how to use the software, try to remember/learn the rules.

Once these drafts sessions are completed, we will decide on a date/format for our tournament.

Steps to do for now:

1. Register on ccgdecks.com: http://ccgdecks.com/board/profile.php?mode=register
2. Download magic workstation: http://www.magicworkstation.com/downloads.php
3. Setup MWS (Magic WorkStation): http://ggxgames.blogspot.com/2011/06...for-magic.html
4. Connect on skype on tuesday 9.30pm aedt for the draft
5. Make your draft deck for the night http://ccgdecks.com/draft_gen.php

Should definitely add this to the OP

[ROOT`iaguz]

Oh yea, had a look. Squee + survival = LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[Delraich]

If you are not on the list of 8 people, is there any point coming/ getting ready for Tuesday?

[Frogmite]

Originally Posted by Delraich

If you are not on the list of 8 people, is there any point coming/ getting ready for Tuesday?

In fact if you're motivated i can put you in.
I will refresh the list of players with only the ones that already gave me their skype details.
I tested yesterday with a collegue:

- ccgdecks: it works prettywell, i did it with a collegue, you can simulate a draft even with bots if we are not enough
- mws: works pretty fine too, there is a system to connect to an opponent by IP adress.

[Delraich]

Are we going to draft only Innistrad? I just want to make sure I have the correct cards set up and would like to look at the correct card pool beforehand.

[Frogmite]

Originally Posted by Delraich

Are we going to draft only Innistrad? I just want to make sure I have the correct cards set up and would like to look at the correct card pool beforehand.

As i put in the OP we will make a first draft with Magic 2012 (Core set). Core set always use standard cards and no new abilities i believe, so it'll be easier to start with that. For the second draft yeah we might make it with Innistrad why not

[Delraich]

Having fun practice drafting against 7 AI opponents:
http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/res...draftsimulator

[Bugalugs McScruffin]

Hey Frogmite. I am gonna have to bail. It's probably for the best anyways, you guys seem pro at this and probably don't want a noob like me slowing everything down.

I'll looking at grabbing the decks and programs to give it a look at regardless and see if I can't work it out.

[MezjE]

Hey man,
I am about to delve in to MTGO for the first time, I will post my details here when I can.
Anyone here going to GoodGames 5k in Sydney? I might train it up with my team.

So happy to see an MTG community on here ;D

[Frogmite]

Originally Posted by LayZ

Hey man,
I am about to delve in to MTGO for the first time, I will post my details here when I can.
Anyone here going to GoodGames 5k in Sydney? I might train it up with my team.

So happy to see an MTG community on here ;D

Actually we don't play with MTGO but with MWS.

And a BUMP to remember everyone the trial session tonight

Following players have confirmed

1. Frogmite
2. Maynarde
3. Erasmus
4. Dracover
5. Delraich

[DeNile]

Lol I'm still trimg to work out loading decks and what not . Got mws opened it want to download images and Im pretty sure I have every card but no images. Also then loading the decks and playing any good links to an easy explain.

[Frogmite]

Originally Posted by DeNile

Lol I'm still trimg to work out loading decks and what not . Got mws opened it want to download images and Im pretty sure I have every card but no images. Also then loading the decks and playing any good links to an easy explain.

Setup help can be found here: http://ggxgames.blogspot.com/2011/06...for-magic.html
If you still can't work it out I propose we check that together on skype tonight during the trial session. Add me: gr0alex (with a zero)

[DeNile]

Link is not working froggy if i can commit an amount of unbroken time i will jump on. Add you anyway for stalking purposes lol. jk................maybe.........

[Frogmite]

Originally Posted by DeNile

Link is not working froggy if i can commit an amount of unbroken time i will jump on. Add you anyway for stalking purposes lol. jk................maybe.........

This link should work now: http://ggxgames.blogspot.com/2011/06...for-magic.html

[Delraich]

Thanks for the games Frogmite - that was great and it worked well in the end after we solved the local IP issue.