[zeffrin]

You could've delivered similar points without drawing attention to the sexism aspect. Fact is, women will for at least a few more generations continue to be drawn to more social activities and men will focus on spacial skill games.

It's not just casting pretty girls get a soft break... and it's because of people like you actually. You talk about being mysognistic but then you talk about wishing to covet a woman and feel loved etc.

If this were face to face dialog I'd be able to take your age into account for this viewpoint, but I propose that you need to stop worrying about the bitches at highschool... they all go through that phase, and if you talk to women about it, just like the fighting a bullying can be difficult for boys, for girls it can be even worse... (own fault though, they backstab and gossip about each other, and then take offense when someone returns the favor.. meh)

So anyway, stop worrying about those teenagers, male and female teenagers are in a very interesting position of thinking they know enough about the world, not being an environment to show them otherwise and further educate about the world outside of your countries, current politically important topics which are being taught to you. (If you're currently a teen, try to just accept this as a point of view for now, and reconsider it in again when you're 30)

Once schools over and done with you'll be fine if you stop idiolising women... they're just human beings, they have some physilogical and psychological differences but actually they're more afraid of you than you are of them.

Women taking part in SC2 is great.. why? It's not because they could reach like Code S levels of play, but it's because they come bred with the tools we need to build real communities and stuff.

Now, you talk of the time back when no girls used computers or play games, but I doubt you're old enough to remember it. I do. It was so hard to find stuff back then, you had to know a nerd who knew a nerd and let's face it, we nerds didn't know many other nerds. (this is before and during early stages of internet im talking about for you youngins)

Nowadays if you know a nerd girl, you're probably connected by one link to hundreds of other nerds.. and since those girls know many other girls, you're connected by 4th degree to thousands of other nerds.

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Nemo:

I couldn't say it better

[ZergGirl]

Originally Posted by zeffrin

Women taking part in SC2 is great.. why? It's not because they could reach like Code S levels of play, but it's because they come bred with the tools we need to build real communities and stuff.

You can't reach code S levels of play, at least I come with tools needed to build a real community.. and stuff.

Get out.

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	zeffrin:	lol
	FaDeHellfyre:	owned zeffrin. owned.

[Nemo]

Originally Posted by ZergGirl

You can't reach code S levels of play, at least I come with tools needed to build a real community.. and stuff.

Get out.

I think that zeffrin was saying that girls don't need to have some code S representative to be respected as players.

Top players girls are less frequent than top players guys because there are less girls playing that game, that's all. Luaway (spelling ?), the Storm girl is a hell of a player for example and there are others.

@kez, as zeffrin says, your image and sentiments of women are very "young" (I mean not yet matured) and ambivalent.

Of course sometimes women are chosen more easily to present events or make interview. But that's because us nerd like to hear feminine voice (Zepph voice ... ) or seeing them in that gaming context (Anna) etc.

Even Tastless, Artosis comments are not that great technically, there are better out there, but they are amazing animators and that's what make their success. That's also why Frogmite is the best commentator of SEA (just friendly trolling Benji ), because he has amazing energy in his casts. The same with women, they give us "feminine" and smooth presence when casting that are great.

Bee and Duck are already quite good, dedicated casters, and I'm happy that they were given the chance to go on a bigger stage. Those people who trashed them on the chat were really bad to act like that.

[ZergGirl]

Originally Posted by Nemo

I think that zeffrin was saying that girls don't need to have some code S representative to be respected as players.

Which is pretty silly


Luaway is really consistent, she pwns.

[zeffrin]

Originally Posted by ZergGirl

Which is pretty silly


Luaway is really consistent, she pwns.

This is confusing... are you saying we should wait until a female makes Code S before we start respecting female gamers? lol...

[ZergGirl]

Originally Posted by zeffrin

This is confusing... are you saying we should wait until a female makes Code S before we start respecting female gamers? lol...

Maybe not Code S, but we'll settle for doing something that requires some serious time/effort to be invested on their part.

I like Luaway. Does that mean I like all 'female gamers'? Neg.

*not directed at zeffrin*
I made friends much faster on my male smurf, nicer ones too :P
even offrace so it's not like its 'YOU SO GOOD I BE UR FRIEND'.

I dunno, I agree with Zeph a bit. The initial attention is what is truly different (imo).. but if said girl is a wetblanket people wont keep coming back.

At the end of the day, don't encourage TEEHEE and all will be well.