[Benji]

Additionally, would a regular clan competition encourage the bigger clans to start recruiting some BSG players for development or fun, and would it encourage more BSG players to form clans?

Quite a few of the higher level clans exist to create practice environments for the players. For these clans to pick up BSGP players, it would require a change in focus of the clan to something more social, and even then what would the gain be? If the tourney had a prizepool worth noting, it would attract smurfs, and if it didn't, it'll be ignored by the higher level clans.

I'm always hesitant about hosting lower level tourneys as well, as it encourages players NOT to get better, to stay around X or Y skill level so they can be the big fish in the small pond.

[TAminimat]

Originally Posted by Benji

I'm always hesitant about hosting lower level tourneys as well, as it encourages players NOT to get better, to stay around X or Y skill level so they can be the big fish in the small pond.

I don't know any BSG players that want to stay in B, S or G. I think its a good idea.

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TAMrAnderson:

Good point!

[Benji]

Originally Posted by TAminimat

I don't know any BSG players that want to stay in B, S or G. I think its a good idea.

Thats because theres no money there, add money and people will hang around quite alot more.

[nard]

Originally Posted by Benji

Thats because theres no money there, add money and people will hang around quite alot more.

and also increase the likelihood of smurfs.

BSG tournaments are sadly over policed here.

its fine that smurfs are detected and hence banned. what about those who are genuinely good yet for some reason cant attain an MMR good enough to get a promotion to plat yet. they are still BSG with possibly the mechanics/skill of a plat and these are also DQ for having higher mechanics.

that said, a bsg clanleague would give genuine BSGers a taste of competition and perhaps spur them on to improve. still a good idea nonetheless.

[Satu]

Originally Posted by Benji

I'm always hesitant about hosting lower level tourneys as well, as it encourages players NOT to get better, to stay around X or Y skill level so they can be the big fish in the small pond.

I agree, I got to masters league before I could win a BSG or GPD on my way. The good players are too good. (Or rushes are too imba)

[deL]

Originally Posted by Benji

Quite a few of the higher level clans exist to create practice environments for the players. For these clans to pick up BSGP players, it would require a change in focus of the clan to something more social, and even then what would the gain be? If the tourney had a prizepool worth noting, it would attract smurfs, and if it didn't, it'll be ignored by the higher level clans.

I'm always hesitant about hosting lower level tourneys as well, as it encourages players NOT to get better, to stay around X or Y skill level so they can be the big fish in the small pond.

The prize will be very small if anything, it's more about letting the BSG players have something to participate in and get their name in results threads. At least the prize will not present a very good return for the time investment (team leagues require a lot of organisation and last several weeks... turning up each night for a month to win a $10 voucher or a $30 mouse or something is not really worth it). I have also been around long enough to realise problems with smurfing and have my own ways of identifying and dealing with it. The prize could also be something like coaching, or a showmatch against with a top player of their choice

I don't think clans should underestimate bringing on Gold/Plat players as an 'academy' type player, especially if they already offer coaching (the TA players who offer coaching give reduced prices to TA members). Rossi joined TA at around Gold level and look at him now

Guys I am not asking for your opinions on smurfing or rules or prizes or whatever I am going to handle that myself - right now I just want to know which clans exist out there with a BSG presence, or if any clans that are BSG only would wish to compete, or if any BSG players would consider forming or joining long-term clans in order to participate in something like this.

[Maynarde]

Originally Posted by deL

Guys I am not asking for your opinions on smurfing or rules or prizes or whatever I am going to handle that myself - right now I just want to know which clans exist out there with a BSG presence, or if any clans that are BSG only would wish to compete, or if any BSG players would consider forming or joining long-term clans in order to participate in something like this.

Yes, I'm interested in joining a long-term clan to participate in something like this. Get on board BSG people.