[Chiddiru]

Introducing Quality Gaming Academy

Hello all, if you aren't aware my name is Tony. I am the owner of the newly found group Quality Gaming Academy, we are aiming to have players from most genres of games become apart of this group. Our main focus at the moment is to run regular Starcraft 2 tournaments for Australian only residents.

I would like to extend an invitation to those people currently within teams or clans to join this group to provide yourself with additional practice partners, strategy discussions as well as coaching and gameplay analysis. (Note: This group can be treated like a "Sea Serpents" group in the way that you don't need to represent us for Clan Wars etc)

With the above being said, we will have a skype group that is free access to all members, feel free to PM me for a skype add to the group.

I personally will be running a stream based on improvement via game days and replay analysis days, vods will also be uploaded to youtube to extend the coverage of the organisation, also I will be personally looking to cast again and get a lot better at that.

With the stream focuses, I will be taking my stream a lot more professionally. This means, negativity and trolling in that chat will be removed immediately, raging is completely un-acceptable (goes towards any member that chooses to take part in the org's stream) and any improvements that can be made towards the cast of tournaments etc I wish to recieve pm's. (Also if you find behaviour within the stream to be unprofessional please message me directly)

For any details, feel free to message me directly and we can sort something out.

+ [Current Members] +

Wally
Chase
Spook
ChadMann
Osiris
BoardingPear
Rendorian
MrLando
Inter
/Jieun
/Slayer
Artfulsuer
Crescendo
KingSlayer
mayheM
IcedTea
DoMo
Gravity or
Satu

QGA.Gravity

[SLCN.Wally]

déjà vu

10char

[syfRize]

déjà vu

10char

[syfMightyKiwi]

Originally Posted by Chiddiru

raging is completely un-acceptable (goes towards any member that chooses to take part in the org)

This is going to be unavoidable, everyone's jimmies get rustled every now and then

[Seffy]

déjà vu

10char

[syfChadMann]

Sounds good, you have my Skype - add me. I'm often looking for someone to have a few practice games with. :-)

Good luck with it mate.

[syfRize]

Stupid comment aside, FeDe, if you were to actually stick to this group and nurture it into some sort of clan, that would be great.

We need more than 4-5 active clans around here.

[Chiddiru]

Thanks ChadMann, you've been added.

SouL, I will be sticking with it, it's been in the works for a few months now, however, this will not be treated like a clan, so I don't think this will help the issue of clan wars etc, however feel free to ask me for casting

If we get a core group, I'm sure something can be organised

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syfRize:

You reckon there could be clan formation possibilities in the future though? If you get a solid group and stuff?

[ToRSpookToR]

raging is part of the game.
Source: just threw a bottle at the cat.

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Chiddiru:

haha <3

[Philosopher]

Rage is part of the game
Source: mGG General Skype Chat.

[ToRSpookToR]

I'd rage too if i was in mGG.

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	FLuX:	this x 100000000000
	mGGNemesis:	spookpls

[SLCN.Wally]

You can add me if you want, pls listen to what I have to say though. I obviously am not going to practice with plat players but I'm up for giving advice if you want,

[Seffy]

Originally Posted by Chiddiru

Also if you find behaviour within the stream to be unprofessional please message me directly

Does this mean we can message you too if we find that your behavior is inappropriate? ._. [serious question]

Oh and I'd probably go +1 with the "clan" suggestion. You don't necessarily need to be a clan, but you can go ask for CWs and stuff still really as a form of practice or something. It'd be fun and keeps you active in the community. Just my few cents.

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Chiddiru:

yes

[VB_Inter]

Hope it goes well and you can get a good group of active people. One thing i would think about changing is your attitude on your stream.

You ban people for giving tips/advice.

You ban people for talking about a game that you lost 5 mins ago.

You "threaten" to ban people when they say anything you don't agree on

You laugh at your opponents mistake but then ban/threaten people that pick up on yours. They are learning as much as you are trying to.

Your running your stream based on improvements but you make new accounts and plays lower league players then proceed to laugh at them when you can make 100 banes and steam roll them.

Goodluck in the future

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Seffy:

weow the fire ;;

[MezjE]

Originally Posted by VB_Inter

Hope it goes well and you can get a good group of active people. One thing i would think about changing is your attitude on your stream.

You ban people for giving tips/advice.

You ban people for talking about a game that you lost 5 mins ago.

You "threaten" to ban people when they say anything you don't agree on

You laugh at your opponents mistake but then ban/threaten people that pick up on yours. They are learning as much as you are trying to.

Your running your stream based on improvements but you make new accounts and plays lower league players then proceed to laugh at them when you can make 100 banes and steam roll them.

Goodluck in the future

+1 to everything listed here, I witnessed someone say he is low plat MMR not dia and he banned them, just lol.

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Chiddiru:

what team/org are you apart of again? keep trying to put a damper on others

[Chiddiru]

Originally Posted by VB_Inter

Hope it goes well and you can get a good group of active people. One thing i would think about changing is your attitude on your stream.

You ban people for giving tips/advice.

You ban people for talking about a game that you lost 5 mins ago.

You "threaten" to ban people when they say anything you don't agree on

You laugh at your opponents mistake but then ban/threaten people that pick up on yours. They are learning as much as you are trying to.

Your running your stream based on improvements but you make new accounts and plays lower league players then proceed to laugh at them when you can make 100 banes and steam roll them.

Goodluck in the future

Okay, in case you weren't aware, I have said in my stream have typed it out for those that don't understand.

1. I ban people in my stream that give advice/tips. Incorrect. Advice and tips are great if put across in the right way. Eg, If you make gases at x timing instead of y timing you'll be able to do ... However, comments that you may see as advice/tips that will get you banned, eg, LOL why the F**K did you do that, thats so dumb will

2. I ban those that talk about a game I lost 5 minutes ago. Correct. During my stream, mainly after a replay I will run a section where we discuss the previous game, once the discussion period is over (usually 2-3 minutes) I ask for comments about the prior game to stop as we are looking to focus on the next game. I even say that to people, then give a warning that the discussion phase about prior game has stopped, if it continues after that, yes you get the T/O.

3. You "threaten" to ban people for a statement they make, that you don't agree on. Incorrect. I tell people that I will ban them if they continue with x topic because of y reason. End of the day my stream my rules, if I disagree with your statement that's my place. Eg. Stream event yesterday, I lost to a certain style, that I'm unsure of how to defeat. I have tried multiple strategies, a viewer said that y strategy will work, I explained I have tried it and why it hadn't worked for me prior, this conversation continued for an extended period of time, then I had asked for it to stop (over 10 minutes had passed) so we could proceed to the next game, a warning was given, then a T/O occured.

I do not just ban people out on a limb, those that get banned instantly in my stream tend to be those that have previously warranted getting a T/O but have multiple accounts. A good example of this is yourself Inter, in which case you had another account with an extra underscore.

Also at the laughing at my opponent. I do that on stream, they do not see that, I find it amusing when for example a terran goes cc on low ground on sejong and gets a reactor on his barracks after 1 marine and then leaves after 6 lings walk into his base.

There was also another case where I asked the protoss how he was diamond after he cannon rushed my OL at my natural, that's a general question.

Hopefully this reply makes you understand how a stream chat is structured for me personally, If you disagree with what I have said, feel free to message me. This thread is about a new organisation within Australia that is hopefully going to provide some players with a nice learning environment while bolstering my own casting skills.

[breadfan]

Originally Posted by Chiddiru

1. I ban people in my stream that give advice/tips. Incorrect. Advice and tips are great if put across in the right way. Eg, If you make gases at x timing instead of y timing you'll be able to do ... However, comments that you may see as advice/tips that will get you banned, eg, LOL why the F**K did you do that, thats so dumb will

I have seen this happen first hand to advice that was in no way insulting. You do this. Maybe you should watch your behaviour in some vods because it's possible that you think you are acting quite reasonably... But you aren't.

2. I ban those that talk about a game I lost 5 minutes ago. Correct. During my stream, mainly after a replay I will run a section where we discuss the previous game, once the discussion period is over (usually 2-3 minutes) I ask for comments about the prior game to stop as we are looking to focus on the next game. I even say that to people, then give a warning that the discussion phase about prior game has stopped, if it continues after that, yes you get the T/O.

I'm all for the idea of "my stream, my rules". But honestly, controlling what topics people talk about in your stream chat? Good luck on that one. That's not normal, maybe you should make a note on your stream telling people that topics of discussion are to be at your direction. This is your choice if this is how you want it to be though, so all good.

3. You "threaten" to ban people for a statement they make, that you don't agree on. Incorrect. I tell people that I will ban them if they continue with x topic because of y reason. End of the day my stream my rules, if I disagree with your statement that's my place. Eg. Stream event yesterday, I lost to a certain style, that I'm unsure of how to defeat. I have tried multiple strategies, a viewer said that y strategy will work, I explained I have tried it and why it hadn't worked for me prior, this conversation continued for an extended period of time, then I had asked for it to stop (over 10 minutes had passed) so we could proceed to the next game, a warning was given, then a T/O occured.

I think you need to figure out if you are going to welcome advice or not. At the moment, you don't welcome advice. I know from experience that in this sort of situation, your reaction to advice that you somehow think is not valid is to belittle, insult and rage at these people. Maybe this is the reason people are carrying on the discussion? You're literally calling people idiots, attacking their integrity, just because they've offered to help you and you don't understand the game well enough to see the merit. It's only natural that they would want to explain just why what they are saying is correct and helpful.

I'm not saying this as an insult: Your macro is terrible. It's just as horrible as your opponents'. It's just as horrible as mine when I was in your league. When it comes down to people telling you the solution to a problem, when your macro is as atrocious as yours (and others at your level), your experience at attempting to do what they say but not being able to execute it doesn't give you license to call that person an idiot or whatever for their advice, just because you think you know better (you don't).

Hopefully this reply makes you understand how a stream chat is structured for me personally, If you disagree with what I have said, feel free to message me. This thread is about a new organisation within Australia that is hopefully going to provide some players with a nice learning environment while bolstering my own casting skills.

I support the idea of this group (there have been others similar in the past that have died off over time but almost always valuable). After what I've seen from you, I want to see it in action before I am willing to participate. I hope that people do get all the things you've stated as the goals for this - practice partners, as well as coaching, strategy discussions, and replay analysis (for which I hope you get some actual coaches/good players on board). I hope you don't rely on people without proper understanding of the game to be doing this sort of stuff. It can be pretty harmful to peoples' development who take the word of someone in good faith who claims to know what they are talking about that they should be working on or doing X, Y or Z when in fact that is totally wrong.

Quick Comments

	VB_Inter:	Agree 100%. Well said
	Seffy:	WELL SAID 10/10

[Philosopher]

Originally Posted by Chiddiru

Our main focus at the moment is to run regular Starcraft 2 tournaments for Australian only residents.

Wasn't Hype Cup supposed to be this?

[syfRize]

It would be cool for you to make something like this for the thread too;

+ [Current Members] +

Chadmann
Gravity

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Chiddiru:

yeah man good idea

[Seffy]

Originally Posted by AxS.AkirA

It would be cool for you to make something like this for the thread too;

+ [Current Members] +

Chadmann
Gravity

Well, if this does actually stick.. this same thread can be turned into an update thread of sorts, right?

[sR.BoardingPear]

Go for the win, if you lose senpai be sad.
...
Good luck, I'll be watching

[TheKidBuffalo]

gl mate , hopefull it sticks

[Sc2Clare]

oh man... not again... :/

[mGGIcedTea]

It's the internet why care so much

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TtSYF.zeNo:

+1

[Artfulsuer]

add me pls

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Chiddiru:

just pm me your skype, race and league

[Chiddiru]

The OP will have all players that have been added to the skype group, feel free to pm your skype details + race and league and ill get you added in asap.

[Chiddiru]

Breadfan, I appreciate your feedback though majority of it is negativity based on you being in my stream only a few times.

I do admit on occasion my stream gets out of hand in terms of how things are running.

However, I will strongly disagree with you saying my macro is "atrocious" and I find it insulting that you would say "(for which I hope you get some actual coaches/good players on board)"

Yes I am plat, no i am not the best player, nor do I claim to be, I will stand by the fact that my macro is my best feature in my game, when I win it's because my macro is solid and this happens when my first 6-7 minutes is uninterrupted .

Being a "high level player" or a "high level coach" and doing replay analysis and being a practice partner for people I find is irrelevant. I don't believe you need to be a top masters/ gm level player to help people with replays to find things like mistakes, inconsistent patterns and bad habits. As for practice partners, if I have silver players in the group I'd like to seem them versing other silvers and gold, that gives them an understanding of where there play is currently at.

But again, your opinion, your allowed to have it, I just don't find your insulting tone throughout your message to be positive or insightful to be honest

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	breadfan:	It's not that you have atrocious macro compared w/ plats, its that plat level macro is atrocious vs GM, that's all
	eCKo`Enak:	Even in diamond, people's macro is atrocious :D

[Matt93]

Hopefully this time you see it through.

As others have said, you need to clean your act up in general before you can expect the players in your team to do the same. How many team managers etc. do you see act the way you have? The only acceptable anti-social behaviour a team owner can do is eat babies. You have to be a duck (notice that I said duck, not dick), let the hate slide right off your back like water, don't even respond to it. For example, what you said to mezje in a comment, stop that.

But yeah, again. Good luck this time.

[eCKoa`ProzeR]

Message to all - hehe Glhf boiz




Also hopefully this time it actually works

[ThatGuyDoMo]

Sign me up brah.

Don't worry lads I'll keep Kiddiru in check

In terms of league...just list me as bronze terran.

EDIT: Make that bronze zerg, time for me to build myself back up again methinks

EDIT EDIT: Make that bronze terran again...#YODYODYOD

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syfChadMann:

#returnofdomo #YearOfDomo #YODYODYODYOD

[ETL.Balimaar]

I say best of luck to you Tony. I really hope it works out.

The only problem I see is how you are perceived in the wider community. Now I have talked to you off stream and the like and I like that Tony. He's pretty chill, hes supportive and an all round nice guy to talk to.

But it does appear to me that the split second you hit that "Start Stream" button you become a totally different Tony. And its not the good Tony I talk to from time to time.

I too have seen occasions where people have been banned for offering advice or telling you that macro is slipping. I have seen you smile at a low league players mistakes and yet get pissy at someone for pointing out that you are performing similar mistakes in your gameplay.

Just remember that you are representing your Organisation now Tony. Try to be that Tony I talk to and behave that way ALL THE TIME. You are the face of your new team. Just be a little more careful here on in OK?

Quick Comments

	Chiddiru:	yep yep <3
	ThatGuyDoMo:	here here!

[syfChase]

I believe you can make something great of this but you gotta stick to it and take on challenges that may hinder the growth of this organisation. You've got a great bunch of guys on the roster so good luck man !

[VB_Inter]

I would like to join this group as it seems like a good idea and VB isn't the most active atm so i need more people to play with.

Inter
Protoss/Zerg
Diamond (gold/plat zerg)

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Chiddiru:

msg me your skype details :)

[Chiddiru]

If people want to join, please message me the following details:

Skype (so i can add you)
Race
League

[MrLando]

Add me! I'm always up for practice and helping out peeps.

Quick Comments

	eCKo`Enak:	+1 for lando
	syfChase:	lando #1 sea guardian
	eCKoa`ProzeR:	w00t Landooo

[syfChadMann]

Originally Posted by ETL.Balimaar

The only problem I see is how you are perceived in the wider community.

I don't watch him stream, but I can honestly say from talking to him that he is trying to fix that. Chid, sort out your behaviour on stream and I can't see why people can't start giving you another chance.

Good luck champ.

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Chiddiru:

My stream is gone temporarily, while some stuff is getting sorted <3

[ETL.Balimaar]

Originally Posted by fray`ChadMann

I don't watch him stream, but I can honestly say from talking to him that he is trying to fix that. Chid, sort out your behaviour on stream and I can't see why people can't start giving you another chance.

Good luck champ.

He does well for a while then something happens to set him off

I know he is trying and I give him credit I wish him every success and fortune in getting this idea and his own ummmmm mentality(? - need a different word there) sorted.

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ToR.Jombie:

dont poke the sleeping giant lol

[Chiddiru]

looking like a solid group atm, got our first diamond terran and protoss added in tonight and the very well know sc2sea personality LeChin.

Keep them messages coming guys and gals

[syfRize]

Can I sign up for killing scrubs

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Chiddiru:

uve seen the format, pm with skype, race and league

[uJeanZ]

Great to see new initiatives in SEA scene. Best of luck

[Chiddiru]

we now have a public group on NA if anyone is keen to join Quality Gaming Academy Public

[Chiddiru]

Would love to see some more protoss in the group

[syfRize]

Originally Posted by Chiddiru

Would love to see some more protoss in the group

Change me to pls

[RicocheT]

I'm late to the bandwagon to bash this guy about his stream.
Dammit.

[Chiddiru]

Hey guys with a bunch of stuff thats come up for me and heading into the end of the year, i have been inable/unable to complete what i wanted to do to make this work before my down time begins, so for now, im going to still focus on the stream, but a bunch of stuff i had in the works is all partially finished, these include beginner guides to all races, a guide for each race entitled what to do in the first 6-8 mins.

im sad that as of now I will be unable to continue this but in a way i guess i needed everything in place before starting it, to all those that joined cheers for your input it meant alot.

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breadfan:

UNBELIEVABLE. I don't believe it!

[syfRize]

...........

[ETL.Balimaar]

DELEGATE Chiddiru. You've got team mates. Give the ones you really trust what you have and let them finish it off.

Then have them show the work to you for the final OK and they can publish it!

There's no need to do EVERYTHING YOURSELF you know

[ToRsupapower]

wat


10charrrr

[SLCN.Wally]

:\ atm it was just a skype group, you don't have to leave a skype group

[ThatGuyDoMo]

I hate to say I told you so Feddles.

I did more or less predict this would happen and told you what you needed to do in order to make the academy autonomous, thus meaning less pressure on yourself. Please take this as constructive criticism because that is all I give you. If you bat away my words as "hating" or "#pitchforking" I swear to god I will explode.

You need to control how impulsive you are. You have all these ideas and spur of the moment decisions which you leap into head first, and then they suddenly die because you lose interest or something comes up. If you think I'm making this up I can get a list of the things you have thought about doing (and mentioned them to me on skype) to show you what I mean.

PLEASE, slow down, think things through, there is no need to rush to try and make a name for yourself in sc2sea or whatever it is you want to do.


GG

Quick Comments

	Chiddiru:	you actually have 0 clue whats even going on
	syfRize:	chid, no need 2 h8 m8
	syfIce:	cmon chid ease off
	breadfan:	Sounds like every ladder game you play, Chiddiru. Ohhhhhhhhh!!!!

[Satu]

Before everyone gets on the hate train, I'd like to do what I can to pick up the pieces and try to work with them.

After talking to the group, it seems that the best option is to keep the skype group we had open, but redesign it a bit. It won't be QGA chat anymore, but rather an open SEA starcraft chat group. If you want to join, add me on skype, my username is "cubetastic". I'll happily add ANYONE who is interested.

This won't be like other SEA-based skype groups I've seen, where there isn't any focus towards actually talking about sc2. I don't want to be a complete nazi, but we'll try to keep on the topic of starcraft and keep trolling and witch hunting to a minimum. You'll be able to complain about races being OP and whatnot though.

If there is enough interest going forwards, we can also have focused discussions, or even group replay analysis calls. Perhaps even custom game nights! There would have to be a lot of interest however, I'm not going to put that kind of an effort in for 4-5 people each time ;P

Quick Comments

	ThatGuyDoMo:	Can people PLEASE stop pre-empting hate trains. It poisons the well.
	mGGNemesis:	^ satu

[x5.Crescendo]

Sad to see you go, Tony, but here's hoping the ladder treats you well this season!

Satu, thanks for keeping the group moving forward.

[SLCN.Wally]

Originally Posted by Satu

You'll be able to complain about races being OP and whatnot though.

I'm in!

10char

[uJeanZ]

Well that was actually a good group. Good while it lasted. Over to the new one them.

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syfChase:

it was only good because i was there but its ok ill be in the new one too

[Elusory]

Originally Posted by ThatGuyDoMo

PLEASE, slow down, think things through, there is no need to rush to try and make a name for yourself in sc2sea or whatever it is you want to do.

This is exceptionally true. For someone relatively new to SC2SEA like me and (not bragging) doing some stuff for the community, there are many "wonderful" ideas I have that I wanna do for this place. But, one thing at a time, and not all things are feasible, and easier said than done.

To be honest I thought this time what you would do was gonna be sustainable, it doesn't require much effort to maintain a Skype group when it's not even a clan or team. So, really though you didn't have to make that post that you "can't commit anymore". There was actually nothing to commit to from the start, you've already created that group for people to discuss in and that's good enough already. What's started will be finished by who are already inside the group, not you. Stay in the group, the group keeps itself going. Don't discount yourself by thinking you're shit or (insert negative word) just because you're down with work and stuff now, this was really a nice initiative that was well-received by the community.

Quick Comments

	Matt93:	you're not even new. You've had an account on here longer than I have.
	ThatGuyDoMo:	True words Elu bebz
	breadfan:	He's new and matt is uber-new

[ToRSpookToR]

Can someone reinvite me lol. Also why are you making guides when you don't even know what you are talking about half the shite you went on about for toss was wrong. It's just a skype chat relaxxxxxxxxxxxx

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breadfan:

Bro you just aren't up with the current meta

[ETL.Balimaar]

Originally Posted by ToRSpookToR

Also why are you making guides when you don't even know what you are talking about half the shite you went on about for toss was wrong.

DUDE!

*prays Chiddiru never sees that post. Chidd has a temper with statements like that a lot of the time.*

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breadfan:

That's actually his problem though, not spook's.

[Seffy]

Originally Posted by ETL.Balimaar

DUDE!

*prays Chiddiru never sees that post. Chidd has a temper with statements like that a lot of the time.*

Even reasonable arguments would set his temper off. Check what Domo wrote.

Originally Posted by ThatGuyDoMo

Chiddiru: *
you actually have 0 clue whats even going on

See?

Whatever happened, I at least hope things are fine, or will be fine for you in the future, Chid.

But Elusory and Domo are actually right. Take things slowly, plan them out properly and then slowly execute your plans when the time is right. QGA wasn't too rushed per se, heck it was actually pretty okay the way it went. But if you're gonna shut it down cos something came up, then you're not managing it properly. You could've asked some of us to keep it going while you take some time off. You can't just create something, and then decide that you're "the only boss of everything" and not have some other members to have some other role that they can fill in for you. It's teamwork; "many hands make light work."

Everything was off the Skype chat anyway, we would've been easily able to handle ourselves while you had to take time off... for the I do not know how many-eth time.

Huge props to Satu though for letting us get some sort of alternative going with this. Surely he'd invite you in when the time is right for you.

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ThatGuyDoMo:

amen

[ToRSpookToR]

'I'm going to play one base archon for all three match ups' Just saying why would anyone want a guide from a gold at best player. Stick to playing the game and enjoy it, it's a bloody game.

[MrLando]

Chiddiru; the man of broken promises.
If you want respect man you have to follow through with your goals when you make them public. Don't expect much from me nowadays; you were pretty immature about this one.

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Seffy:

rektification 101

[Sc2Clare]

Chiddiru, you are amazing, that is all that i can say, really amazing. Never ceasing to crack me up~~~ >.<