[mGGNemesis]

Originally Posted by x5_NXZ

BSG is the same, its just now the G is only the active golds and inactive plat/diamonds. As far as I'm concerned, no change is warranted. If the same basic entry requirements are monitored, in that if they were plat last season they can't play BSG, then there should be no issue.

The problem is the definition of inactive. A former PD who is now gold who ladders maybe just 2-5 games a day (if he even plays daily) is still considered "inactive" because mmr decay works against the player. For most casual players, they probably will not be doing 20-30 games a day at the lower leagues?

Since the change, we have seen the skill gap widen and mounting frustration from players who are gold and never gotten PD or players who were PD now gold and cant get out of it. Same with Diamond players who cant hit masters (who never been masters) or masters or even GMs even if it was only SEA, who are in Diamond, laddering and cant get to masters again for at least 2 seasons now. Not saying that no one is getting promoted at all and such.

Initiatives such as Elusory's ex masters and below tournies were created to address that these ex masters and diamonds are stuck with no tourney to call their own. For a while, they (ex masters now PD) couldn't even take part in clanwars. So we relaxed after 1 season to join the PD in the clanwars and the skill gap during the clanwars becomes very obvious.

The same for BSG weekly which resulted in Panda continuing to try to address the issue and making the rules now so strict that we have to rethink again. Or in BSG clanwars, when we allow these ex PDs to be gold players taking part in the action.

Each Clanwar or tourney I hear from those who were BSG since the start, " this player is not clearly not playing at BSG level" cos while an ex PD may be gold now, some of the mechanics that led the player to be PD before (especially if he/she is a long time PD player) is still there compared to most BSGs if u get what I mean.

We dun want to leave them out but we dun want to be unfair as well. Players who have been BSG all this while, is feeling the hurt. While they are trying their best to get out of it and kudos to the many who are not giving up, this suggestion is to encourage discussions how to better address this issue to reduce frustration and make the games more 'fair' and hopefully more enjoyable.

So keep the suggestions/inputs coming and hopefully organisers of clanwars and tournies (weekly or one off) will consider these points as they plan/organize their clanwars/tournies.