[Eddie]

I've renamed the thread, as scam is probably not the correct wording for the situation.

Couple of things to take on board Satiini.

You seem to cut out a bit of Skype chats, probably best to supply the whole conversations, or at least more replies/back and forth.

You say sometimes he didn't reply as fell asleep - This might well be true given the timezone difference.

As a lot of people have mentioned tRoy has done a lot of good things for this community. Most of them volunteer, and probably a bit of money out of his own pocket. Scamming implies he's taking profits for himself, but i don't think that would be the case. He even donates his time to tournaments he has no financial role with. And from my own interactions online, he seems very mature for his age, and keen to help/develop the scene.

It also appears tRoy has been depending on his associate 'James' for 100%, or the majority of px's funding, so the blame might not be entirely his, or of his design.

A little research into the team/SEA scene/community before signing up might have led to a more informed decision. pX are mostly known for running $10 tournaments, i'm very surprised they offered you salary, or would offer/be able to offer the same to anyone else. They don't really have known brand sponsors; they're privately funded from what i can tell.

The way in which you've approached this has rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. Next time it would be best to take a less aggressive/threatening avenue, and just present your case and the facts.


For any managers/admins out there who may find themselves in similar situations/want to avoid one my advice would be, if you aren't prepared to take the risk and pay all the money yourself if things don't work out, don't do it to start with. Don't write cheques you cant pay.

For example for every Masters Cup i set up my own personal funds ready to pay out the total prizepool. I then pay all the players 2-3 days later. (Not immediately as we need time to review, and there has been issues with smurfing, etc in the past). I then contact all the sponsors, email summary, etc, and wait for them to reimburse me. This may take a while, they might have systems in place to pay out all clients at end of the month, etc. However if they don't, or takes a long time, it's my problem. Doesn't matter if it's a $10 Cup, $100, $1000, etc. If you don't have enough/or are confident your sponsors will pay/and promptly, you probably shouldn't do it.

If you run a team/tournament you are putting your own reputation on the line. It all comes back to your responsibility. So do what you got to do, have everything sorted and available to be paid up front.

Quick Comments

	NDG.Stitch:	I love you Eddie
	Lokth:	Pretty sure Im still waiting on $10 from a GPD win eddy :P not that I care <3
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