[Edrahil]

While people may question the biasness of tyler and geoff's comments, I feel that in the latest SOTG, their analysis of the current state of the zerg v protoss metagame is spot on.

On a side note, I personally feel in 1 month from now (assuming no further patching), the average zerg pro will be taking the average protoss pro to town. Once they learn not to a-move with their infesters and that massing 200/200 with 100 larva and 5kminerals 2kgas is not necessary the best way to play versus protoss.

[Starcraftmazter]

OP thread? **** yeh!


******* protoss man. Two protoss walk into a bar, and they realise it's the finals of a tournament!










And then there's this shitty race






IEM Terran winrates:
vZ: 32%
vP: 17%

TSL Terran winrates:
vZ: 42%
vP: 37%



Terran, the only true race of skill and micro, **** yeh!

[Xeen]

Originally Posted by Starcraftmazter

IEM Terran winrates:
vZ: 32%
vP: 17%

TSL Terran winrates:
vZ: 42%
vP: 37%

GSL WC Terran winrates:
vZ: 62.5%
vP: 61.6%

Wait what the ****? Statistics can vary between leagues based on who plays and who wins? How can this be?!!?

Moron.

[jason]

Originally Posted by Xeen

GSL WC Terran winrates:
vZ: 62.5%
vP: 61.6%

Wait what the ****? Statistics can vary between leagues based on who plays and who wins? How can this be?!!?

Moron.

chill out?

[Starcraftmazter]

Originally Posted by Xeen

GSL WC Terran winrates:

Implying WC was not a retarded tournament where some people could not properly prepare for their opponents.

Originally Posted by EdgE

SCM it's funny to me that i know you actually believe any imbalance towards terran just to inflate your skill level.

Surely inflating my skill level is like inflating a hot air balloon that has reached the boundary of space.

[Edrahil]

Originally Posted by Starcraftmazter

Implying WC was not a retarded tournament where some people could not properly prepare for their opponents.




Surely inflating my skill level is like inflating a hot air balloon that has reached the boundary of space.

Hmm,

Most DPS/cost unit of the game - Marines, most DPS/second ability/unit in the game - EMP from ghosts (vs Protoss).

Small wonder, that in situations where both players prepared just as well, terran has a better winrate.

I think it is obvious from this statistic - GSL Terran Winrates
vT = 50%

That the only fair match up versus Terran.... is Terran.

[jason]

Originally Posted by Edrahil

Hmm,

Most DPS/cost unit of the game - Marines, most DPS/second ability/unit in the game - EMP from ghosts (vs Protoss).

Small wonder, that in situations where both players prepared just as well, terran has a better winrate.

I think it is obvious from this statistic - GSL Terran Winrates
vT = 50%

That the only fair match up versus Terran.... is Terran.

2 storms, bye marines.

colossi , bye marines.

feedback, bye ghosts.

[Rhodan]

Originally Posted by jason

2 storms, bye marines.

colossi , bye marines.

feedback, bye ghosts.

This doesnt really contribute anything to the discussion. I can just as easily point out that Storm and Collossi are Tier 3 and require significant more investment than T1 units that cost basically nothing, and so should dominate Marines. Or that when you include the Radius of the EMP, it has a longer range than High Templar. But it doesn't contribute at all to the thread.

On topic, the metagame also plays a huge role at the moment. Collossi/Void Ray off 3 bases for example has only really been an in vogue build for about a month and only really came about because Protoss players needed to experiment after Zerg players learnt how to counter the old Stalker/Collosus/Sentry deathballs.

It may not sound like much, but the difference between the two styles has a lot of nuances to it, people tend to underrate protoss because of this perception that protoss players are afk until their death ball "completes".

[dennistoo]

Originally Posted by Edrahil

While people may question the biasness of tyler and geoff's comments, I feel that in the latest SOTG, their analysis of the current state of the zerg v protoss metagame is spot on.

On a side note, I personally feel in 1 month from now (assuming no further patching), the average zerg pro will be taking the average protoss pro to town. Once they learn not to a-move with their infesters and that massing 200/200 with 100 larva and 5kminerals 2kgas is not necessary the best way to play versus protoss.

I agreed. 200 food with few Infestors will melt protoss army easily and if they keep larva count high, the ability to remax zerg army is easier than protoss.

I'm not QQ-ing because my inability a to beat a zerg but even 3Gate expand seems so hard now. A non-macro zerg will drop down roach den and save larva and pushes EVEN without speed upgrade. Even the first wave of roaches failed, 2nd wave of mass speedlings will melt any protoss forces... talking about forcefield imba.. who can drop do a forcefield like MC?