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Unread Mon, 15th-Apr-2013, 8:19 PM BnetId: RunaMok 582  Race: Clan: IXL  Location: Victoria  Total Posts Made: 422 # 21
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Unread Mon, 15th-Apr-2013, 9:03 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: NvPinder.933  Race: Clan: TA (Nv)  Location: Melbourne  Total Posts Made: 885 # 22
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As everyone has already said, congrats on gaining GM man, it's a huge goal to hit for the first time! Unfortunately though it will almost definitely not be the basis any team recruits on. I'm not going to just add what everyone else has (which is totally valid and legitimate advice; play in all the online and lan tournaments you can. If you start doing well there you will eventually get noticed if you're good enough)...

As with everything in life it's not necessarily what you know, its who you know. I can't value enough the importance of interacting with the community. Interact with the community (in a positive way) as much as you can. Be active on the forums, participate in the sc2sea chat, do anything you can to get into this community so you become a name people recognize not just for your tournament results and it will do a hell of a lot to help you.

Basically, network. This isn't just about making yourself "look more appealing for sponsors". Make friends in this scene, everyone's connected to someone in someway. Without those connections you are going to have to do significantly better than someone with them in tournaments to get recognition for your results. I can say with 100% confidence I would've never got the offers I did if all I did was ladder and do reasonably in tournaments, and that for sure applies for many of the players on top teams currently as well.

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Unread Mon, 15th-Apr-2013, 10:30 PM Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 23 # 23
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Thank you for the reasonable response

I think the misunderstanding was people thinking I wanted to go straight onto a sponsored team just from getting GM. I was just only hoping to get onto a semi-casual team and hopefully play next season of T3 in SEAL. I do know that GM SEA is not an impressive credential, I have actually made GM several times but I always get demoted as I prefer to practice on NA.

In the end I decided to make a team with some close friends, with any luck we will be accepted into SEAL next season.

We will also play a clan war vs iVn on Sunday.

Thank you for the more reasonable response and for managing not to insinuate that I must be terrible because I mentioned what league my SEA account is in.

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Unread Mon, 15th-Apr-2013, 10:53 PM Who's Who:   BnetId: NvPinder.933  Race: Clan: TA (Nv)  Location: Melbourne  Total Posts Made: 885 # 24
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Thank you for the reasonable response

I think the misunderstanding was people thinking I wanted to go straight onto a sponsored team just from getting GM. I was just only hoping to get onto a semi-casual team and hopefully play next season of T3 in SEAL. I do know that GM SEA is not an impressive credential, I have actually made GM several times but I always get demoted as I prefer to practice on NA.

In the end I decided to make a team with some close friends, with any luck we will be accepted into SEAL next season.

We will also play a clan war vs iVn on Sunday.

Thank you for the more reasonable response and for managing not to insinuate that I must be terrible because I mentioned what league my SEA account is in.
Ahhhh the major issue is here we define what you're describing as a clan. In our scene a clan and a team are two different things.

Generally speaking, a clan is a group of friends who aren't sponsored and just enjoy being associated with one another as a friendship group & its own little community, a team is a professional team with sponsors who they represent at events and things.

It may seem somewhat bizarre, but it is a rather important distinction. Quite a lot of top players are on the same clan, but different teams, or the same team but different clans. It's generally accepted by most teams you don't have to leave your clan to join the team.
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Unread Tue, 16th-Apr-2013, 9:00 AM BnetId: distyL.742  Race: Clan: eMp  Location: Adelaide  Total Posts Made: 233 # 25
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