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Unread Thu, 3rd-Jan-2013, 3:23 PM BnetId: tiger 978  Race: Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 108 # 1
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Hi,

Could someone analyse this replay and tell me where I went wrong? I don't understand why I lost the game. I'll mention in the last decisive engagement, the Protoss did land a few storms but they weren't "money" storms. I had an okay concavity in the engagement. The upgrades were pretty even, I was 3/3 with my vikings at 3/0 and he was 3/3/3. Did I lose because I missed my EMPS in the final fight?

I felt I was ahead or even in every aspect of the game except for the final engagement. I EMP'd all his HTs. I killed all his colossus. I was even on upgrades. I was ahead economically. I don't know why..

Replay: http://drop.sc/290422

I would really appreciate the help!
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Unread Thu, 3rd-Jan-2013, 4:01 PM Who's Who:   BattleTag: delete12#6306  Race: Clan: aLt  Location: Sydney, Australia  Total Posts Made: 391 # 2
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Hi,

Could someone analyse this replay and tell me where I went wrong? I don't understand why I lost the game. I'll mention in the last decisive engagement, the Protoss did land a few storms but they weren't "money" storms. I had an okay concavity in the engagement. The upgrades were pretty even, I was 3/3 with my vikings at 3/0 and he was 3/3/3. Did I lose because I missed my EMPS in the final fight?

I felt I was ahead or even in every aspect of the game except for the final engagement. I EMP'd all his HTs. I killed all his colossus. I was even on upgrades. I was ahead economically. I don't know why..

Replay: http://drop.sc/290422

I would really appreciate the help!

First fight at 18 mins:
You should have won right here. He had no stalkers (none, zero) with his army and you got off perfect EMPs. But you didn't have any vikings so he was able to push you back with collosus. At this stage of the game, when the Protoss has HT tech for 5 minutes and they're on 3base, you have to assume a colossus transition. You have to start making vikings in preparation. If you had vikings you could have just kited with your army while the vikings picked off the collosus.

Also, you didn't stim your army for half of the fight.


Dropping - less important
Watch the replay again and watch specifically your drops. If the drop was repelled, why? Were you dropping in an obvious spot? Maybe there was some other place that was undefended where you could have unloaded safely (like the bottom left part of his main base).

I think if you loaded 2 medivacs

Maybe you dropped too close to his main army so he could defend it as soon as you started unloading units. (around 21:30).

Maybe if your dropped pulled his army out of position you could have quickly killed his fourth and retreated.

Remember to be careful if your medivacs have too much energy, it's painful when an entire drop gets killed by a feedback.


second fight at 23 mins

Losing 4 vikings for free hurt a bit, just be careful I guess.

Even though you were maxed out here, technically 9 supply was still being trained in your barracks and starport. But that's not too big a deal.

This was actually a really good engagement and I'm not really sure why he won the battle. Maybe it's because your +3 armour wasn't finished, and +3 ship weapons (while he was on 3-2-3). Maybe because the EMPs didn't hit all of the archons (but they got the HT and most of the army so they were still good).

I think it's because he had a bank and 14 gateways. In the late stages of PvT, if you fight next to a pylon, they can just warp in half an army while the fight is happening. That's just how the game works. So when you fight a Protoss, you can't be trading evenly, you have to absolutely crush their army, otherwise the warp-ins will turn the battle around.


last fight 28 mins

You should have kited him into range of the planetary fortress. If both armies are maxed out, terran will always win if they fight next to the planetary. Also, half of your army wasn't stimmed.

When the protoss army has a lot of archons in it, you need to have lots of ghosts. 6 isn't enough. Also you want to start to phase out marines from your army because they just die too quickly.

And he had 26 more supply in army because you were killing his probes. I don't know exactly when, but eventually you have to sacrifice some SCVs to get a higher army supply. It's okay though, you have mules.



Protoss is very very hard to beat in the late game, mainly because of the warp in mechanic. So if I were you, I would focus less on the later battles and more on the first battle at 18 minutes, and mid-game harass before that. You want to win before they can get to the late game.
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