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**Baldie** · Sat, 29th-Dec-2012, 1:32 PM

Great work team for knocking this up! The coding is amazing!

It's a great start towards something which can only improve and I have no doubt with the power ranking points coming into play in 2013 and an expansion of point allocation in tournaments throughout SEA, next year will be a lot easier to work out

**nGenLight** · Sat, 29th-Dec-2012, 1:33 PM

Iaguz and Rossi did most of their damage at the start of the year.

I did my damage in the middle of the year, which just luckily enoughso happen to be the 3 most important tournaments of 2012 for SEA - ACL Melbourne + WCS.

Tgun/Mafia/MG/Pig was great all around.

Ninja making abit of noise at start of year but got significant notice towards the latter half.

Petraeus exploded at the end of the year.

SLCN.NXZ · Sat, 29th-Dec-2012, 1:52 PM

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Originally Posted by iM Light

NXZ: You can be sure me and Rossi would not shy away from a 1v1 with Pet to prove our worth. I like that you make a case for Pokerface not being in the top 10, when many people have many other commitment issues - Rossi goes to uni full-time doing a double degree. I have full-time work and spent the first 5 months of this year not even touching StarCraft. This means absolutely nothing. It isn't a "potential list" or "what could of list" it is a 2012 power rank. You might aswell throw iceiceice as #1 if it is a potential list.

I don't understand what you getting at, I am not insinuating that you guys are bad players, I said poker could not be in top 10 if he didn't play for a lot of the year, despite his strong results at events like ACL Sydney and various cityhunters. Me saying that the only player pet could be above being you is BECAUSE you're working full time now, same with rossi studying at uni. I agree with the rankings, I agree that you should be higher than pet. I did not suggest any changes to this list other than that I haven't seen enough of rossi to comment. The pokerface thing was mostly about activeness, you guys still participate in tournaments, poker didnt during HSC. I apologize if you took my post the wrong way, I meant no offense to you, or rossi by it. No need to argue about nothing

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**nGenLight** · Sat, 29th-Dec-2012, 1:58 PM

I'm just angry you decided to single my name out, and called my placing into question.

However, you make much more sense in the post above.

It is sad because at one point me and Poker was talking about how we forfeited like 5-10 tournaments in a spam of 2 months. Usually I'm either free on the qualifier day or the tournament day but not both - either being in Adelaide or working. This makes it extremely tough to be active in tournaments. But I wouldn't have done anything otherwise - I don't get much of a chance to go see my GF as it is.

What is worse is that I've sacrificed alot at work after I started playing StarCraft II again, and recently got some Time & Attendence councelling, which means that, the rate of me joining tournaments is going nowhere but down.

I tend to agree with you I'm probably going to be overtaken by a few if this power ranking was done at a latter time. But not right now, I still got so much 1A in me to fight for my spot.

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SLCN.NXZ:

Yeha juggling full time work and sc2 is no easy feat, its amazing that you've managed it so far

SLCN.NXZ · Sat, 29th-Dec-2012, 2:02 PM

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Originally Posted by iM Light

I'm just angry you decided to single my name out, and called my placing into question.

However, you make much more sense in the post above.

It is sad because at one point me and Poker was talking about how we forfeited like 5-10 tournaments in a spam of 2 months. Usually I'm either free on the qualifier day or the tournament day but not both - either being in Adelaide or working. This makes it extremely tough to be active in tournaments. But I wouldn't have done anything otherwise - I don't get much of a chance to go see my GF as it is.

What is worse is that I've sacrificed alot at work after I started playing StarCraft II again, and recently got some Time & Attendence councelling, which means that, the rate of me joining tournaments is going nowhere but down.

I tend to agree with you I'm probably going to be overtaken by a few if this power ranking was done at a latter time. But not right now, I still got so much 1A in me to fight for my spot.

Yeah I was just referring to savior's post that pet should be higher. In which I was trying to say that pet shouldn't be higher and if he was it would have to be a right now power rank, not a whole year power rank. I brought you and to a lesser extent rossi up because you two are the next guys on the list who are playing less due to other commitments (well rossi been doing uni for a while but you know what I mean). This isn't necessarily a bad thing, just something that is happening. So eventually the younger guys who have more time to practice will become stronger but taking this whole year into account, I think you guys definitely deserve your placement

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	nGenLight:	I"M JOINING NIRVANA IN RETIREMENT HOME
	nirvAnA:	hi

x5.Revenant · Sat, 29th-Dec-2012, 2:44 PM

You sillycakes.

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	SLCN.NXZ:	Revving it up
	AvPoker:	this guy gets it
	ROOTPetraeus:	<3 rev
	nGenLight:	go commando roll on the grass more mate!!!!
	Asrathiel:	Rev!!! Still gonna hug you when I get the chance :P

NOM · Sat, 29th-Dec-2012, 2:55 PM

jesus
WHY NO TARGA!?

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x5_Namakaye:

I think priority went to native SEAsions

**iM tgun** · Sat, 29th-Dec-2012, 3:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NOM

jesus
WHY NO TARGA!?

He kind of lives in europe?

ToRsupapower · Sat, 29th-Dec-2012, 3:35 PM

mafia #1 he plays so much

TAminimat · Sat, 29th-Dec-2012, 3:36 PM

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Originally Posted by iM tgun

He kind of lives in europe?

He kind of played in a **** ton of SEA tournaments?

SLCN.Wally · Sat, 29th-Dec-2012, 3:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TAminimat

He kind of played in a **** ton of SEA tournaments?

Didn't kingkong do that as well? Still doesn't make him Australian.(idk how long he has been living here though)

TAminimat · Sat, 29th-Dec-2012, 3:40 PM

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Originally Posted by pX'Wally

Didn't kingkong do that as well? Still doesn't make him Australian.(idk how long he has been living here though)

He has been here for less than two months and SEA doesn't = Australian.

SLCN.NXZ · Sat, 29th-Dec-2012, 3:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TAminimat

He has been here for less than two months and SEA doesn't = Australian.

Tell me, do you include huk in your Korean power ranks? or do you consider him Canadian? I'm not gonna post after this but is having targa on a meaningless list when he no longer plays in the sea scene that important? No, didn't think so.

TAminimat · Sat, 29th-Dec-2012, 3:55 PM

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Originally Posted by aLtNXZ

important?

I don't see the word important anywhere apart from your post. If huk won a Code S why wouldn't you put him into a Korean power rank?

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SLCN.NXZ:

Would you put something in massive font if you didn't consider it important?

**iM tgun** · Sat, 29th-Dec-2012, 4:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TAminimat

He kind of played in a **** ton of SEA tournaments?

If you saw UHF's graph of results, he was actually around 7th-10th (can't remember specifics). He also doesn't live or participate in the SEA scene much, and we were told not to include him. The same is true for KingKong -- he only came into SEA in the last few months and we were told not to include him.

SLCN.NXZ · Sat, 29th-Dec-2012, 4:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TAminimat

I don't see the word important anywhere apart from your post. If huk won a Code S why wouldn't you put him into a Korean power rank?

I wouldn't, I would put him in the top 10 foreigner list, just like id put violet in the top 10 kr list not the top 10 foreigner list.

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	iVnStinger:	Makes sense
	breadfan:	top 1 foreigner list

TAminimat · Sat, 29th-Dec-2012, 4:11 PM

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Originally Posted by aLtNXZ

I wouldn't, I would put him in the top 10 foreigner list, just like id put violet in the top 10 kr list not the top 10 foreigner list.

Right so winning a korean tournament would put you on top of NA power rankings..

NvRossi · Sat, 29th-Dec-2012, 4:33 PM

pretty solid list for the most part! Some might not be happy with a 7th but tbh i am quite proud of it.

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	SLCN.NXZ:	yeah 7th is quite an achievement! Especially for a not zerg player haha!
	ROOTPetraeus:	better than 8th ^_^

Cyanide · Sat, 29th-Dec-2012, 4:44 PM

suggestion:

make a list that TRIES to LIMIT bias as much as possible

e.g. Assign EQUAL values to things such as

Tourny winnings
tournies joined
tourny placements
popular vote
ladder ranking in say (NA or KR)
Giant Slayer points (points given for defeating/taking games off international t1/2 players in tournaments)
etc.

the more data we can pull from various things, we're limiting problems like whether
Person A winning 20 $20 tournaments in SEA
should be placed ahead of
Person B who won one LAN that paid out $500
or the other way round

RuineD · Sat, 29th-Dec-2012, 4:50 PM

i dont think u can really limit bias or opinion with something like this.

i mean this is a stretch but the problem with that is the lans might be quite small and meaningless whereas a big tournament win is worth a lot more. for example, revival has won like 50+ playhem dailies. but compare that to say one MLG win or IEM win, which would u place ahead? i know thats not SEA but similar problems could arise.