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Old Thu, 24th-Mar-2011, 6:26 PM Who's Who:   Race: Clan: eCKo  Location: Adelaide, Australia  Total Posts Made: 750 # 1
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Ok I see exactly where you are getting confused. Tell me, are you building an extra overlord or are you just using one of your normal overlords to scout?

1) If you are building an extra overlord before scouting, then it will cost you 100 minerals upfront, but you will have a surplus of supply, so you will not need to replace this overlord (0 minerals) since it is a surplus, it is one more than you need.

2) If you are not building an extra overlord before scouting, then it will cost you 0 minerals upfront, but you will have no surplus of supply, so you will need to replace this overlord (100 minerals) since it was one of your normal overlords, there was no surplus.

In 1) you pay for the overlord upfront, in 2) you pay for it afterwards

You are putting the two together, claiming that you spent 100 minerals to get an extra overlord and spent 100 minerals to replace it, it is either one or the other..

I think what might be happening for you is that you are doing option (1) and getting 2 overlords, but then going crazy on building units without realising you have a temporary surplus in supply, meaning that the reason you have to build another overlord is because you ate into your surplus.
Im not considering that. Instead, Im keeping it general. It COULD give you a surplus, it could not. I didnt say it will not.

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Sigh...

At the risk of continuing this rather tedious thread, lets look at this analogy

You have a ferrari. I have a monster truck. I run my monster truck over your ferrari, cause I needed to impress that hot chick next to your ferrari.

What was the cost of my ego to impress that hot chick? Well, buying you a new ferrari. Does it matter what it cost you to buy it in the first place? No, it doesn't matter. You could have gotten it free from your rich Dad but I would still have to buy you a new car. That's my only cost.

I.e. the cost of scouting is the replacement cost, NOT the initial cost. Don't double count.

p.s I like hot chicks and monster trucks
Yes, the cost of scouting is the replacement cost, correct.

Now go back to the begginning of all of this (My post in the TL.net thread) and note that I was saying cost due to scouting. This means that Im including the cost for the initial overlord and also the replacement overlord, because you have spent minerals on both.

Whether its relevant or not you can interpret yourself, but relevance of my topic is irrelevant itself. Its more about people saying that my statement is incorrect. Im just acknowledging the fact that minerals was spent on two overlords.
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Old Thu, 24th-Mar-2011, 8:52 PM BnetId: XenoX.583  Race: Location: Melbourne, Australia  Total Posts Made: 9 # 2
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Im not considering that. Instead, Im keeping it general. It COULD give you a surplus, it could not. I didnt say it will not.



Yes, the cost of scouting is the replacement cost, correct.

Now go back to the begginning of all of this (My post in the TL.net thread) and note that I was saying cost due to scouting. This means that Im including the cost for the initial overlord and also the replacement overlord, because you have spent minerals on both.

Whether its relevant or not you can interpret yourself, but relevance of my topic is irrelevant itself. Its more about people saying that my statement is incorrect. Im just acknowledging the fact that minerals was spent on two overlords.
Alright, whatever, believe what you want to believe. I tried to show you the light as best as I could but you seem convinced otherwise. Nevermind! Can we close this thread please? it's probably the most frustrating thing on the forums right now.
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